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Next door neighbour and they're business

212 replies

Psiaspops · 01/06/2023 14:36

My next door neighbour runs a business from his home. Usually evenings, 3 to 4 a week. Usually between 4pm and 9pm. We have the usual with his clients parking in front of our house and drive way, blocking us in etc and we usually just ask them to politely move or whatever
But last night, a woman was waiting on their child while they were in their lesson. She had two other children with her. They looked to be around 7 and 5. She decided she would let them play in our garden, pick flowers etc. I went out and she just spoke to me like it was normal. I asked could they please not pick our flowers and play in our garden. She was really taken aback but said okay. Then the youngest grabbed stones from the road and threw them onto our grass. I asked her could she please not let her child do that, and she said to me oh it's only some stones and then made a scene of how unreasonable I was being and how he was only a child etc. Now our neighbour has come over and said to leave his clients alone. I explained what happened and he said he already knew and they were doing no harm. Who's being unreasonable here as I just don't understand their logic, but then maybe I'm wrong, I don't know anymore

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MyBrownEyedHandsomeBoy · 01/06/2023 19:57

What a dick

Psiaspops · 01/06/2023 20:09

Morechocmorechoc · 01/06/2023 19:35

Sounds like the stress is going to get worse. In your situation I would move and report the sod

Honestly, I wish I could move, but it would be nearly impossible right now with how quickly my health is deteriorating

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NumberTheory · 01/06/2023 20:38

Do you have kids of your own who could take up the drums, practicing on your lawn on evenings he has clients round?

Greenpolkadot · 01/06/2023 20:48

Get yourself a nice high gate and keep it locked on lesson nights

Psiaspops · 01/06/2023 20:57

I was also wondering if anyone knew legally where we stand with the parking outside our house. As it's a cul de sac, unadopted road and they are parking either blocking our driveway or on the footpath right in front of our house. Is this legally allowed? I mean about the footpath parking

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StoneofDestiny · 01/06/2023 21:28

Your neighbour is a complete idiot - as are his clients. Nobody normal would believe it's acceptable to block your drive, enter your garden, pick your plants and throw stones onto your property. Tell him forcibly you've reached the end of asking nicely, he is creating a nuisance to you and he gets paid for it!,

StoneofDestiny · 01/06/2023 21:31

Blocking your drive - park outside your own drive and that will push them on to park elsewhere.

Murdoch1949 · 02/06/2023 05:04

I'd have thought he would have backed you up, not his student's parent! He should want to minimise the annoyance he is causing. Because of his attitude I would find out if he can run a business from his home, if he needs permits etc, plus the DBS thing others have mentioned. His clients should not block your drive or park on the pathways, talk to your local community bobby and they can speak to him, in order to prevent further escalation of incidents.

Pearmain · 02/06/2023 05:24

The Title Registers for all properties are publicly available on the government website, pretty much all residential properties have a restrictive covenant about business use - it’s £3 to view a Title Register but if I were you the first thing I’d be doing is having a look at that to see if he’s breached the covenant (from what you’ve said, I’d guarantee he has).

JandalsAlways · 02/06/2023 05:26

Wow. YANBU. Cfers all round, her and the neighbours. Some people seem to have zero consideration for others, good on you for saying something. I'd tell the neighbour to operate his business elsewhere

Missingmyusername · 02/06/2023 05:34

Psiaspops · 01/06/2023 20:57

I was also wondering if anyone knew legally where we stand with the parking outside our house. As it's a cul de sac, unadopted road and they are parking either blocking our driveway or on the footpath right in front of our house. Is this legally allowed? I mean about the footpath parking

Contact the council, they’ll tell you.

Get ear defenders to help with sleeping and rest.
Your neighbour is awful.

Are you able to get a blue badge/allocated parking space (the yellow disabled parking bays?).

Fraaahnces · 02/06/2023 06:03

Time to start documenting noise and disturbances - including his singing and guitar and lessons and begin making a nuisance of yourself with your local council by reporting as many and as often as possible. Ask Environmental Health to come and set up recording devices in your home so they can assess how much of a pest he really is. I would also get a sign and put that somewhere visible stating that you need access for emergency medical reasons at all times. Make sure that the sign states that all cars blocking your drive will be reported. Take photos and report every car that blocks your drive. If they are reported, they will find lessons with this dick too difficult to bother with. Stop allowing this horrible man to dictate to you. Make his life hell in return. If he can’t run his classes from home, he is going to have to find somewhere else.

berryhol · 02/06/2023 06:19

Guessing he’s a tutor? A tutor wouldn’t like loud music when he’s trying to teach. I’d put some banging tunes on for his waiting customers

BCCoach · 02/06/2023 06:33

Music teachers working from home don’t need to pay business rates and they also don’t need a DBS - in fact they have no way of even getting one as a self-employed person (apart from a basic disclosure which anyone can get and is largely meaningless).

londonrach · 02/06/2023 06:49

Take it music lessons ..report neighbour to council as if running business from home they need to inform them and have insurance. Re the stones flowers etc yanbu. What a horrible mother. Your neighbour needs to sort that. Yanbu.

cushioncovers · 02/06/2023 06:59

Ironic that the mother of the child is paying for private lessons to enhance one of her child's education whilst failing to teach her kids the very basics of how to behave

BMW6 · 02/06/2023 07:17

berryhol · 02/06/2023 06:19

Guessing he’s a tutor? A tutor wouldn’t like loud music when he’s trying to teach. I’d put some banging tunes on for his waiting customers

This. Some nice loud heavy rock with lyrics referencing devil worship.
He needs to keep you sweet as a neighbour, not disturb your sleep between midnight and 8am and allow his clients to block your drive and use your garden.

Willmafrockfit · 02/06/2023 07:31

get a fence

Willmafrockfit · 02/06/2023 07:31

get a sprinkler

Dibbydoos · 02/06/2023 07:34

Your neighbour and their entitled client and her children are CFs with no respect.

The whole thing is antisocial behaviour, you could ratch it up by reporting it to the local authority ie the parking, the abuse etc. I wouldn't let some entitled twit tell me to suck it up about the garden, where's the nearest park? He can send her and her badly behaved kids there.

70sTomboy · 02/06/2023 07:40

Trouble with sprinklers is that a lot of kids would love that! Great fun running in and out. Jet wash might have more effect, directed at parents.
Stones would be picked up and posted through letterbox or bill for lawnmower blades sent to the CF. A sign at front of garden. 'Private, keep off! No waiting here for number '35''

Justleaveitblankthen · 02/06/2023 07:46

In the first instance, in the evenings of his lessons, don't use your Drive. Block yourself in, so his Clients have to park elsewhere.

Get doorbell camera and other CCTV if you can.

Report any further incidents to your local council.

Dogstar78 · 02/06/2023 07:50

You could also try calling the council as the teacher is creating a nuisance, both noise and parking. Sounds like most of the noise is outside of business hours as well.

This must be so frustrating. I drop my son for a drum lesson in someone's house. I am always careful about where I park and always stay in the car.

Psiaspops · 02/06/2023 08:18

Thank you all for your help. I have lots to go on now so I have actually sent an email off to our local council this morning just asking some general questions first. Once I get the answers back I will know where to go from there. Re CCTV we already have some up due to all of this, so thankfully everything that has happened on our property is recorded and stored away for if/when needed. We had loads more happen last night again. Blocking in etc, well actually blocking out, as I had to go to the hospital and by the time I got back we were blocked out of our driveway. Asked the person to move and they had the cheek to ask me to wait 10 minutes until the lesson had finished. I said no, I wanted into my driveway there and then and that they shouldn't be parking in front of my driveway anyways. I was told I was uptight

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78Summer · 02/06/2023 08:20

He sounds awful. Your property your rules. His clients should not be trespassing.