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To think Phillip schofield scandal is homophobia?

913 replies

ivfregret · 01/06/2023 00:00

Have I missed something in that the guy Philip had the affair with was not a minor?

He was a minor when they met, as was Cheryl Cole and Liam Payne for example and no one has anything bad to say about that relationship.

I'm not sticking up for Philip and really dislike him, and also think even if the runner was above the age of consent is most definitely questionable behaviour but I can't help think of it was a heterosexual affair it would not be treated in the same way?

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Unintentionallycausingoffence · 05/06/2023 12:19

It wasn’t his fault she made herself look much older than she is.

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 13:01

I’ve just seen a clip of Holly’s statement on TM.

Its getting completely melodramatic and OTT now.

You’d think the man had been charged for murder the way she was banging on.

JeandeServiette · 05/06/2023 13:12

They're contemptuous of their audience, that's the fundamental problem. They talk down to the viewers.

PledgeNo · 05/06/2023 13:20

JeandeServiette · 05/06/2023 13:12

They're contemptuous of their audience, that's the fundamental problem. They talk down to the viewers.

Contempt is a sign that eventually there will be a collapse of a relationship.

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 13:56

JeandeServiette · 05/06/2023 13:12

They're contemptuous of their audience, that's the fundamental problem. They talk down to the viewers.

Yes.

The “Are you ok? I hope you are!”

In sure people have their own problems and very few people unconnected personally to PS will be truly affected.

Newnamenewname109870 · 05/06/2023 13:59

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 05/06/2023 12:14

I know people who believe peadophiles can only be gay men and sexual abuse victims can only be underage boys. If a girl is abused it’s not the man’s fault as he thought she was at least sixteen.

Gay men are actually less likely to be paedophiles anyway.

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 14:05

Newnamenewname109870 · 05/06/2023 13:59

Gay men are actually less likely to be paedophiles anyway.

Where did you obtain that notion?

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 14:09

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 14:05

Where did you obtain that notion?

Plenty of data to back this up

eastegg · 05/06/2023 14:31

Obviously this is a massive thread now and I admit I haven’t read it all, but what strikes me as particularly unreasonable about your OP, OP, is that you admit you ‘really dislike’ PS, but accuse others who are sticking the knife in of homophobia. Why so confident that others are homophobic, but your intense dislike of him isn’t?

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 14:51

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 14:09

Plenty of data to back this up

Please present some then.

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 15:41

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 14:51

Please present some then.

Informations with sources and citations
https://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_molestation.html

Granted it’s largely based on an old study but one that showed around 1% of child sexual abusers were homosexual.

TBH I’m slightly embarrassed at anyone questioning this in the first instance. Only 3% of people in the UK identify as gay, so why would you think the people from this 3% are the ones mostly abusing children? The vast majority of people are straight. The vast majority of abusers are men. It’s basic maths to understand how it’s unlikely it is that there at more gay abusers than straight abusers.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Scientific research does not provide any evidence that gay men or lesbians are any more likely than heterosexuals to molest children

https://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_molestation.html

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 15:46

TBH I’m slightly embarrassed at anyone questioning this in the first instance.

Spare your embarrassment for your own contributions to this thread.

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 15:57

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 15:46

TBH I’m slightly embarrassed at anyone questioning this in the first instance.

Spare your embarrassment for your own contributions to this thread.

Did you really think most child sex offenders make are made ip of the 3% gay population?

Quitelikeit · 05/06/2023 16:04

I have seen some reports that are saying PS might be able to resurrect his career. His PR machine is working very hard.

We saw Martin Frizell claiming Eamon et al were just ex employees with an axe to grind whereas he was worried about all the mothers on his show who were asking if they were still going to have a job - sharply followed by a Sunday spread claiming a female had been paid off after making a complaint about him on set

The whole thing stinks and personally I am allowed to say it is vile going out with a person 30 years your junior! Eurghhh and most of us would not even go there.

It’s also odd how MM was paid off from the show?!

And the way PS suddenly came out was very odd considering that he told everyone there was no relationship with the runner so why come out so suddenly?!?!

I suspect the truth of it all is somewhere in the middle!

JenniferBooth · 05/06/2023 16:16

My 28 year old niece who is part of the gay community herself does not agree with you OP/. She said it was grooming.

monsteramunch · 05/06/2023 16:19

lemonchiffonpie · 05/06/2023 15:46

TBH I’m slightly embarrassed at anyone questioning this in the first instance.

Spare your embarrassment for your own contributions to this thread.

When gay people are such a small percentage of the population, why are you so doubtful that they aren't the majority percentage of paedophiles?

Why would you think they are more likely to be paedophiles?

Newnamenewname109870 · 05/06/2023 16:27

Jesus Christ now the real homophobia starts.

Newnamenewname109870 · 05/06/2023 16:28

monsteramunch · 05/06/2023 16:19

When gay people are such a small percentage of the population, why are you so doubtful that they aren't the majority percentage of paedophiles?

Why would you think they are more likely to be paedophiles?

Because back when homophobia was rife there were studies done about this and embarrassingly for them, gay men had levels as similar to that as women. Funnily enough, being attracted to men is quite different to being attracted to children. Most women will agree.

WakeMeUpWhenGoodOmensIsBack · 05/06/2023 16:30

LifeIsPainHighness · 05/06/2023 15:41

Informations with sources and citations
https://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_molestation.html

Granted it’s largely based on an old study but one that showed around 1% of child sexual abusers were homosexual.

TBH I’m slightly embarrassed at anyone questioning this in the first instance. Only 3% of people in the UK identify as gay, so why would you think the people from this 3% are the ones mostly abusing children? The vast majority of people are straight. The vast majority of abusers are men. It’s basic maths to understand how it’s unlikely it is that there at more gay abusers than straight abusers.

The claim wasn't "paedophiles are less likely to be gay men". It would indeed be staggering if that were not true.

The claim queried was "gay men are less likely to be paedophiles" which is a very specific claim which might or might not be true and needs evidence.

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 05/06/2023 16:59

This is I quote not my opnion ( only gay men are peadophiles) as I know second hand it’s not true. I know people who have aired the view on more than occasion that gay men tend to pray on underage on boys more than any other demographic

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 05/06/2023 17:00

I should say third hand maybe.

Unintentionallycausingoffence · 05/06/2023 17:04

But when they say it, I think really????!!!! I know there are both boys and girls being prayed on both straight men and women. Infact I say what about the girl victims?

BelperLawnmower · 05/06/2023 17:06

ivfregret · 01/06/2023 07:51

Once again (because MUMSNET never seem to read posts properly!)

I never said what Philip done was ok - but I said the deal being made over it is way way bigger than I wouldn't expect that's all!

I agree @ivfregret , it's crazy. It seems to be treated and reported like some sort of national crisis. It really seems to be quite insignificant in truth.

Frankola · 05/06/2023 17:17

The best way to work out if it's homophobic is to directly compare scenarios...

Would there be public outcry if a 50 year old man, in a very senior position, had admitted meeting a 15 year old female child and developing a relationship that became sexual over time, when she was working as a junior in the same place of work?

There would absolutely be a public kick off. So no, this isn't homophobic at all. It's about grooming and abuses of power.

monsteramunch · 05/06/2023 17:19

To be clear @Newnamenewname109870 I'm agreeing with you - I'm shocked that someone would assume gay people are more likely to be paedophiles and was hoping that poster would have an answer as to why they assume that's the case. I guess sadly homophobia is the answer.

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