To think Phillip schofield scandal is homophobia?

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Have I missed something in that the guy Philip had the affair with was not a minor?

He was a minor when they met, as was Cheryl Cole and Liam Payne for example and no one has anything bad to say about that relationship.

I'm not sticking up for Philip and really dislike him, and also think even if the runner was above the age of consent is most definitely questionable behaviour but I can't help think of it was a heterosexual affair it would not be treated in the same way?

Yeah totally - I’ve wondered about this to the extent well is the relationship with the runner actually a diversion from this which is so much worse.

And presumably - going by the timings -this revelation is why HW suddenly no longer wanted to share a couch with him.

This. Agree it would be an even bigger scandal if the runner was female. Think there would even be a criminal investigation.

I think l there may be an element within the gay/celebrity community who'd quite like to make a case that it's all about homosexualiity, in the hope that their own behaviour might be out of bounds for scrutiny.

Hopefully only a small element, but this won't be the only case like this.

Late to the party but just seen his BBC interview.

My god does Philip know how to lie or what?! I think the interviewer was thinking exactly the same though.

Again, poor runner. I don’t think I believe Philip’s lies about him not being paid to keep quiet or an NDA. He’s certainly been threatened (the runner). Maybe he’s been told by Philip that if he goes along with what Philip wants then the runner can get tv work again, because as Philip kept repeating the runner had done nothing wrong.

I thought that yesterday! He’s a very skilled liar. Don’t know all the bits he was/wasn’t lying about but some of them he definitely was yet did so with utmost sincerity. I was almost impressed.

DitherDother

Why are the gay community going to need scrutinising any more than the heterosexual community?

Exactly. There’s the homophobia right there.

They're not, but we've already had Weinstein et al and heterosexual sex, older man/young woman for career favours finally being seen as unacceptable. That scandal for gay sex hasn't broken yet, but I'm sure it's there, why wouldn't it be?

Weinstein abused women.This is not comparable.

It wasn't just Weinstein but all the others too and of course it's happening with homosexual men in positions of power too. There will be people who this is making nervous, is all I'm saying.

Not sure I’d support the comparison with Weinstein, but don’t see what sexuality has to do with it.

Being heterosexual/homosexual doesn’t make any difference.

@DitherDother

They're not, but we've already had Weinstein et al and heterosexual sex, older man/young woman for career favours finally being seen as unacceptable.

The overarching element of the Weinstein case was not sex for career favours. It was rape. Multiple accounts of rape and sexual assault.

And that ladies and gentleman is why it’s about homophobia

What are you bleating on about?!

Harvey Weinstein means age gap heterosexual relationships are no longer acceptable? LOL. Al Pacino. Leonardo DiCaprio. I could bame dozens more.

Harvey Weinstein is in no way comparable to PS or any gay man having sex. What bearing does it have on two consenting adults and what they do in the bedroom?

He's done really well to have some of you believing he's a victim of homophobia.

He didn't meet a 20 year old in the workplace and start a relationship with an age gap. He met a child, kept in touch, employed him and had a sexual relationship. Open your eyes people.

It's usually the same people who believe the guff put out by other narcissistic celebrities and royals. It's too easy to fool the gullible. Put on a low, choked voice, shed a few tears and pick the right -ism or -phobia which serves your cause.

The abuse Philip is getting is pretty extreme tbh, the media and the public aren't judge and jury, if he's done something illegal the courts deal with that. He's done something shitty considering he was married.

With regards to the guy messaging Philip when he was 15 about work experience, I don't see why it's dodgy, teenagers contact local people for work experience or jobs , should they not respond to anyone under 18..

But anyway, you're right, Cheryl didn't get much stick, Caroline Flack on the other hand got a lot of shit for the Harry Styles relationship.

@Lazyj

But Cheryl Cole didn't maintain a position of authority over Liam Payne, so it's entirely different.

When Cheryl and Liam began dating he was already worth tens of millions of pounds and had toured the world as part of one of the most commercially successful pop acts of all time.

The power dynamic is so different it is not remotely compatible to the Schofield situation.

He clapped eyes on him at 12, followed him on Twitter at 15 and by adulthood he gave him a leg up onto showbiz

And PS hasn’t ‘convinced me’. When it first broke and the witch hunt began I immediately thought it was homophobia

And I haven’t watched the PS interview either and have no plans too so haven’t fallen for the low voiced teary eyed ‘gift’ eother

I’ve been thinking about this and I think there’s also a degree of ‘how famous’ people are to be forgiven.

Weve basically forgotten Ant McPartlin drunk drove. Cheryl was far more loved and famous than Caroline Flack.

Maybe if this had come out years ago PS would be ok but he pissed people off with the queue jump thing (still baffles me as to why) and as I’ve said I don’t watch TM bit going by MN his and Holly’s popularity has dipped for some time.

Nothing to do with homophobia.

I think people would be just as outraged if he had messaged a 15 year old girl when he was in his 40’s and as soon as it was consensual shagged her.

It’s called grooming

I’m a bit surprised that they don’t realise the age of consent for gay men has been 16 for quite some time, not 18

YABU - Cheryl & Liam is not even comparable FFS