Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

[Endlesssummer2022]

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Busy pavements and public weeing happening other places too

last time I was in cornwall, a local company came out to remove a wasp nest from our holiday cottage. Overheard them talking about f@ckingemmets. Ironic considering their days work was funded by it.

Maybe it's because of 'fucking emmets' that they can't afford to buy a home.

I think you'll find it because of CCC not getting their house in order, and nothing to do with tourists/emetts

Totally disrespectable to call anyone an effing anything, especially if they're paying you for a service

Where do you think Cornwall Council is failing out of interest, dishyrishi? Housing is a significant issue here considering wages are below the national average, but we also have one of the highest percentages of old people, outside East Sussex. Cornwall Council doesn't control water, or electricity, or even the roads, and the geography of the country is as it has always been. The schools are mostly okay, if mediocre ranked nationally. Contrary to popular myth, there are quite a few businesses here in the creative and high tech sectors, offering highly skilled work for people who have the skills, which pay reasonably. Year round, excluding hospitality, there are car dealers, vets, and insurance brokers, plus teachers, care and public service workers, doctors and nurses, and farmers/graziers supplying the top London stores and delis, as well as a lot more selling beef/lamb carcasses and milk to the supermarket chains. Not many people get stinking rich here, but there's a lot of work available for self-employed self-starters. But there are few if any national/international scale big manufacturing companies with thousands of employees.

The reality is nothing like that.

Its local wealthy CORNISH people that bought up housed for holiday lets.

Sure, there are Londoners and SE folks buying second homes, but they are actually in the minority.

It is the wealthy cornish locals that see £££ from tourism.

They are the ones driving the increase in holiday lets.

So once again, you have only yourselves to blame.

However, when you pile expensive tourism on top of all that (and Cornwall has gone upmarket since 1990) yet people still pile in, the NMW earners and most of us just see the traffic jams on the M5, A30 and A38 every summer weekend, the lack of affordable housing and the shortage of hospital ICU beds/GPs. Cornwall can cope with its 560K population but the 4m tourists swamp everything in July and August.

Cornwall is far from "upmarket"

Don't confuse high prices with quality. They are not the same thing.

Housing quality in Cornwall is abysmal. When tourists from outside the UK visit they always leave horrified.

@TheThinkingGoblin it may be some wealthy Cornish people, but not the majority. In my village, the main holiday home person is a London interior designer who acquired several properties, and did them up nicely tbf, who is now selling them again. The other holiday landlords are the National Trust, and a handful of individuals who let single rooms via AirBnB.

If we're being picky @TheThinkingGoblin, the quality of UK housing generally isn't particularly high compared to most of northern Europe. That said, we have just returned from Spain/Portugal and I didn't think standards there were much higher, although bins are emptied much more often and the streets are much cleaner.

For new builds?

The standards are way higher in Europe.

I have so many friends with horror stories in the UK when it comes to new builds.

Its way less common in Europe.

Very true regarding new build housing. It's the main reason I wouldn't buy a newly built developer tract house. Locally, in an AONB, there are not many of them. But there are enough to have put pressure on our local GP surgery and schools which haven't been expanded to cope with the extra 3-4K residents who have moved in. A major metropolitan council bought one-third of one development off-plan to "solve" some of their housing shortage.

When tourists from outside the UK visit, they always leave horrified

Bit of a sweeping statement isn't it?

How can you possibly know that all overseas tourists always leave Cornwall "horrified"?

There really do seem to be a few posters on this thread with a real axe to grind. Fine, you don't like Cornwall. Don't come then.

I have been to Cornwall five times. Mostly in:

St Ives
St Mawes

Hubby & I usually book 4/5 star places, and the quality difference between 4 and 5 stars is immense.

We also have international and dosmetic UK friends from US, Canada, Australia, EU, Japan etc

All complained about the cost of accomodation relative to quality.

It was always the same issue: "we are paying £600+/night for this?"

Every single one. This is not a "one off".

There is a huge disconnect in the UK between "cost of accommodation" and "quality" that you are far less likely to find abroad.

Housing quality in the UK is abysmal. Go visit Norway for a good comparison. You can rent an amazingly modern house in Bergen, Lofoten, Oslo for 1/3rd less than St Ives. Same deal in beach places in Mallorca and Formentera, quality there is noticeably better for the prices being charged in the UK.

People in the UK are being taken for mugs by the rentiers. Thats the reality.

Yep 100%
I feel sorry for people who holiday in Cornwall in July August and increasingly in June too, congested roads, super high prices, poor service & if you get ill and need AE... well, bring a book, in fact several as you'll be waiting for a day or two & if its serious, you'll be treated in the back of an Ambulance.

Holidays in mainland europe offer far far better value for money.

Rest assured too, we all hate you.

The thinking goblin, maybe you just have extremely high calibre friends, Who pays 600 plus a night for accommodation?

Agreed with this. It offers terrible value for money. It's far cheaper to take a ferry to France and rent a beautiful place at half the price. Activities are much cheaper too.

Our west coast Wales down to Cornwall rainfall July and August is normal. I'd never book there at this time of year

I agree with the Cornish people on this one.

I went to Cornwall about 2 days after restrictions lifted in summer 2020.

I found locals in Cornwall to be extremely hostile, even when we were spending good money after businesses were shut for so long. The man in the local corner shop was permanently furious! I also had one restaurant bollocking me because I ordered a takeaway for just me as the rest of my family had eaten already.

I live in Yorkshire. We LOVE people coming to enjoy our area, we welcome everyone and we are not precious or protective about the area or considered it ‘ours’. The traffic is horrendous and parking is even worse but we generally accept it for what it is because the area is just so popular

To be fair to the West country their COVID numbers were off the chart statistically. Knowing how lacking their NHS care is in that part of the world it's really not surprising.

Someone with "mug" tattooed on their forehead, I think

1-week 3/4bdr rental in the nicer areas of St Ives/Mawes easily runs £4-5k now in July/August.

I have no issue with paying higher prices if the quality is at least reasonable.

It just isn't in Cornwall which is why we are never going back. You feel like a mug and it takes away from the enjoyment of your trip.

Off to Scotland this year (Loch Lomond). Quality there is better aligned with prices.

Ha ha! In no way are Yorkshire people, parochial or restrictive! Never!

I live in Yorkshire. We LOVE people coming to enjoy our area, we welcome everyone and we are not precious or protective about the area or considered it ‘ours’.

😂😂😂😂😂

DS went to university in Leeds everyone was very friendly. He now lives in Farsley which is also very friendly. Because he's Welsh he likes the community feeling.