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Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

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Endlesssummer2022 · 29/05/2023 19:12

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

Welcome to Cornwall! Please don’t ruin it for us local people | Natasha Carthew

A little consideration can mean a happy holiday season for everyone, says author Natasha Carthew

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

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Daftasabroom · 03/06/2023 12:06

And we now have a 14 bed holiday let close by with CF guests who have a tent on the playing field it backs onto with fucking dogs running around. Seriously tourists can be complete arseholes.

99victoria · 03/06/2023 12:17

I don't plan to ever go back to Cornwall. I went a lot with my family when I was a kid and my ex in-laws lived in Devon so we used to have our family holidays down there in the SW but my OH and I went to Cornwall about 6 years ago and found the whole experience very uncomfortable. Then it was all compounded by the Fuck Off banners that were hung up during Covid.

We have been to lots of other beautiful places in the UK where we have felt more welcome so I will never go back to Cornwall. Maybe this is their plan - if they piss us all off enough tourists will stop going then they'll be happy presumably

Maireas · 03/06/2023 12:18

Daftasabroom · 03/06/2023 12:00

Cornwall has 17 of the most deprived wards in the country. No matter what you think locals do not massively benefit from tourism.

Right. So they're going to need to stop voting Tory to for a start.
Then have a No Tourist campaign. This thread is certainly helping with that.

Eightypercent · 03/06/2023 12:19

PaulineG1990 · 02/06/2023 19:21

Have they widened the roads through villages in N Wales. In Cornwall they haven’t and it’s impossible getting the SUV down some of them. We scraped the top box last year.

We have a 140 Land Rover with roof tent and all the kit. We keep it especially for trips to West Country but I really don't like getting too close to hedge banks.

CornishGem1975 · 03/06/2023 12:19

That's incorrect @Daftasabroom

Rules until 31 March 2023If your property is in England and available to let for short periods for at least 140 nights per year, it will be rated as a self-catering property and valued for business rates.

Rules from 1 April 2023 If your property is in England, it will be rated as a self-catering property and valued for business rates if it’s both:

  • available to let for short periods for at least 140 nights in total over the current and previous tax years
  • actually let for at least 70 nights in the last 12 months
Maireas · 03/06/2023 12:20

justasking111 · 03/06/2023 09:29

It does keep our area going in the winter. Like squirrels you store up the summer income money to see you through the winter because we tend to get a different type of visitors in the winter. Many retired and walkers rather than families

That's interesting, I'm glad it benefits your area.

Starhead69 · 03/06/2023 12:22

I have been to Cornwall twice in the last 4 years and felt no disdain from any of the Cornish locals. In fact I found them welcoming and friendly.

Obviously most people commenting are the Londoners the Cornish people apparently hate so much, and do you blame them?

I don’t see anything wrong with what is written in the article

DontGoThereYet · 03/06/2023 12:25

Maireas · 03/06/2023 12:18

Right. So they're going to need to stop voting Tory to for a start.
Then have a No Tourist campaign. This thread is certainly helping with that.

Quite. Why don’t locals speak to the tourist board and ask them to stop promoting Cornwall as a destination? Stop contributing to adverts in newspapers etc.

If tourism is bringing no money into the country and ruining the lives of locals to this degree, local councils and tourist agencies must act now to stop the scourge of tourism.

There is no time to lose. Those people with no open spaces during the pandemic, daring to want to breathe Cornwall’s fresh air, were the final straw.

Daftasabroom · 03/06/2023 12:28

@CornishGem1975 https://www.coastandcountry.co.uk/blog/holiday-let-business-rates-council-tax

I'm a little out of date. Weirdly despite living in tourist hotspot I don't know any holiday let owners as few of them actually live here to have a conversation with.

Business rates are tax deductible. Whichever way you cut very few locals benefit significantly from tourism.

Holiday Let Business Rates & Council Tax Guide for 2023 | Coast & Country Cottages

Understanding the difference between holiday let business rates & council tax is a complicated task. Read our guide to find out more.

https://www.coastandcountry.co.uk/blog/holiday-let-business-rates-council-tax

Maireas · 03/06/2023 12:28

Exactly, @DontGoThereYet - I've seen ads for Cornwall for months now, and accommodation offers.
They've got to put a stop to that.

DontGoThereYet · 03/06/2023 12:29

Starhead69 · 03/06/2023 12:22

I have been to Cornwall twice in the last 4 years and felt no disdain from any of the Cornish locals. In fact I found them welcoming and friendly.

Obviously most people commenting are the Londoners the Cornish people apparently hate so much, and do you blame them?

I don’t see anything wrong with what is written in the article

We went with the kids when they were little, a few times from London. We are decent tourists, stayed in a lovely hotel, would never dream of littering anywhere (in London or on hols). I am known for
telling people to pick up their rubbish; one day I will probably get punched! We were treated well. And mawgan Porth is the nicest beach ever! Hope I spelt that correctly.

However, things have obviously changed. And the insular mentality intensified clearly during the pandemic. Greedy locals have sold off their houses at a profit. And it’s no longer the same place it was 15 years ago. It’s probably the decent polite tourists who will stay away now. The shit ones won’t care.

Maireas · 03/06/2023 12:31

Right, @Daftasabroom - start with the local council and whichever Tory MP is yours and get them to stop promoting Cornwall.
Tourism sounds like an absolute scourge.

notnewgoldenoldie · 03/06/2023 12:32

last time I was in cornwall, a local company came out to remove a wasp nest from our holiday cottage. Overheard them talking about f@cking emmets. Ironic considering their days work was funded by it. The welcome we got was lukewarm at best, downright hostile at worst. We're not going back. Thanks to Mumsnet we've found a wealth of lovely other UK spots to visit, none in Cornwall.

Starhead69 · 03/06/2023 13:02

DontGoThereYet · 03/06/2023 12:29

We went with the kids when they were little, a few times from London. We are decent tourists, stayed in a lovely hotel, would never dream of littering anywhere (in London or on hols). I am known for
telling people to pick up their rubbish; one day I will probably get punched! We were treated well. And mawgan Porth is the nicest beach ever! Hope I spelt that correctly.

However, things have obviously changed. And the insular mentality intensified clearly during the pandemic. Greedy locals have sold off their houses at a profit. And it’s no longer the same place it was 15 years ago. It’s probably the decent polite tourists who will stay away now. The shit ones won’t care.

@DontGoThereYet you’re one of the good ones. I don’t like these second homers travelling from out of area

Lovemylaminator · 03/06/2023 13:12

I agree with people saying that the Cornish residents and tourism board should stop with promotion if they hate tourists so much.

I get since Brexit and Covid people in general have become ruder and more selfish, but that's not going to change back so they can either put up with the idiots and take the money, or say no to tourism and watch thousands of businesses close.

WestwardHo1 · 03/06/2023 20:54

Maireas · 03/06/2023 10:14

Well, that argument has been cited on here time and time again, @Daftasabroom . So - if tourism is so detrimental, damaging even, to areas then why encourage it? Why have a tourist board? Why advertise holidays in Cornwall?
Believe me, I'm never going to go to Cornwall after reading this thread, but some people are obviously doing well out of it and encouraging it.
The money must be going somewhere, and I've seen figures of many £millions being added to the local economy.

I can't believe people make decisions based on a Mumsnet thread 🙄

Maireas · 03/06/2023 20:59

WestwardHo1 · 03/06/2023 20:54

I can't believe people make decisions based on a Mumsnet thread 🙄

Who's doing that? I'd heard negatives from Cornish people before about tourism and this compounds it. Some very strong feelings compounding that which I had read previously.

Daftasabroom · 04/06/2023 11:50

@Maireas I'd heard negatives from Cornish people before about tourism

And yet you and others are totally dismissive of the negatives excessive tourism has on communities. QED I think.

Maireas · 04/06/2023 12:10

Daftasabroom · 04/06/2023 11:50

@Maireas I'd heard negatives from Cornish people before about tourism

And yet you and others are totally dismissive of the negatives excessive tourism has on communities. QED I think.

Never been dismissive.
Taken it all on board, believe me.
Every single point you have made. All clear .

Mirabai · 04/06/2023 12:21

WestwardHo1 · 03/06/2023 20:54

I can't believe people make decisions based on a Mumsnet thread 🙄

Really? Go to hospital, contact a lawyer, try cosleeping? It’s an advice and discussion forum after all.

Maireas · 04/06/2023 12:23

Mirabai · 04/06/2023 12:21

Really? Go to hospital, contact a lawyer, try cosleeping? It’s an advice and discussion forum after all.

Thank you. If anyone still wants to go to Cornwall after reading all the details on here about the damage done by and the negativity towards tourists then good luck!

dishyrishi · 04/06/2023 13:12

We were packing the car up at the weekend from our week away in a little cottage. Windy narrow road, so involved blocking the road, no choice really but there's no traffic anyway.

Old neighbour comes running out to have a go at us, ranting on about 50% of the town being AirBnBs nowadays - that is until she spoke with my partner and found out he was a local visiting his family. Completely changed her tune and attitude, nice as pie then, we could have blocked the road all day long and we'd have been doing her a favour.

The Cornish are fickle, I know this as I married one Grin

justasking111 · 04/06/2023 14:23

As are the Welsh @dishyrishi

Kougarchew · 04/06/2023 15:00

I live in a tourist hot spot.
most are lovey but the sheer numbers mean their will be a few idiots.
in truth, hy the end of the season , staff ate exhausted and most locals are glad to see the back of the influx of visitors.
its like some people leave their manners and / or common sense at home. Each year someone is rescued at great public cost by the emergency services because they dont read or ask about the tide .
I often cant walk on pavements as no room . People openly wee in the car park outside peoples houses. Its like they dont see people live here?

Daftasabroom · 04/06/2023 15:16

@Kougarchew Its like they don t see people live here?

Absolutely.

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