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Schofield saga-to think this is all very odd?

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Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 16:39

It’s very confusing.
Rumours have been circulating for three years, even I knew the rumours, how on earth did Holly and others not?
He says there was no injunction, so the boy could have spoken out at any time..so why is it all coming out now?? Why has Holly suddenly distanced herself, why have itv got rid of him now?
They've now said the boy was 15 when they met (sure was younger?) and nothing happened until he was older, nothing illegal but still massively wrong. But if there is nothing illegal and they all knew about it…why now?
Why has P.S been so willing to go along with it this week?

This feels like a cover up for something much much worse?

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pilates · 28/05/2023 17:37

@RebulahConundrum I do believe the boy’s (now man) name is out there

Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 17:38

Also, it’s being said he met him when he was 15, wasn’t it 10 or something

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Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 17:38

His name has been out there for three years

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catsnhats11 · 28/05/2023 17:40

RebulahConundrum · 28/05/2023 17:08

Yeah I'm a bit confused by it all tbh. I thought it was widely known that he'd had an affair with an 18 year old, but it was all swept under the carpet and reframed as him being 'brave' to come out as being gay. But now it's being treated as huge news.
To be fair though I do think it's good that no one seems to have named the lad involved. Not sure if that's because of an injunction but I hope it stays that way.

Literally everyone knows his name

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 17:41

IncomingTraffic · 28/05/2023 17:27

And Caroline Flack.

don’t forget that one.

Look over here, at the squirrel!

Wombastic · 28/05/2023 17:41

It’s all a bit “grab your torch and pitchfork” though, isn’t it?

On another thread one poster even suggested confidently that ps had probably molested his brother and that was why he had turned out that way. Wtaf??? That’s slander, false accusation and much more. Interestingly, right under the ps accusations the other day were two paedo hunters who was being imprisoned for falsely accusing someone.

I think it’s super unprofessional for this all to be Playing out in public with the public invited to join in- like a public flogging or something. It’s the lack of dignity and public pike on that really leaves a bad taste in my mouth, especially when I see other countries behaving with grace, dignity and nobility. We are in a live Jeremy kyle show but nobody seems to have noticed. Look how well that turned out, right?

Meanwhile Erdogans winning the Election in Turkey, Ukraine has had a terrible night etc. If ps has br

Firesgoneout · 28/05/2023 17:42

Why are people being so unpleasant to each other on this thread?

OCarumba · 28/05/2023 17:43

Aye his name has been in the the public domain for years

Freeballing · 28/05/2023 17:43

Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 16:49

@Babsexxx This is what I’d seen originally, but now it’s saying he wasn’t paid off etc and could have come forward at any time and they met at 15…

Maybe he didn't want to come forward and have his private life pulled apart by everyone and anyone? I can't say I've been following this closely(or at all really) but has anyone asked him if he wanted this all over the Internet? Maybe as far as he was concerned it was private business and if he wanted to hold Schofield to account he would he would have done?

If he is a private person this is a lot. Your name everywhere, just on mumsnet alone there have been so many threads presuming they know all about him from time lines they have pulled from everywhere. I'd be so upset if I was being dissected like this by strangers. Nobody actually seems to care about him on all of this, they are just using him as a pawn to bring down Schofield.

Littlethingsmeanalot · 28/05/2023 17:43

holly Never said she didn’t know the rumours, in fact the opposite, she said she asked him three years ago when it first came out and he strenuously denied it. Itv also launched an investigation and him and M both strenuously denied it. What do you wish them to do, follow them with a video camera?

on why it’s coming out now, clearly Philip tried to stop it again, and the mail has something he’s trying to stop being published. There was no injunction but an nda apparently.

but yes I suspect more to come. And holly knows what it is.

catsnhats11 · 28/05/2023 17:44

Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 17:03

@Rowthe His wife? Assumed he was gay

He was married to a woman before he came out as gay a couple of years ago

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 17:46

catsnhats11 · 28/05/2023 17:44

He was married to a woman before he came out as gay a couple of years ago

I never understand this, were they IVF pregnancy sexless marriages, or bisexual and then exclusive men now so gay longer bisexual?

Howwindyisittoday · 28/05/2023 17:50

@Littlethingsmeanalot I’m wondering if it’s something connected to the brother… 🤷🏻‍♀️It’s all been floating around for so long, her reaction seems so sudden considering

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catsnhats11 · 28/05/2023 17:51

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 17:46

I never understand this, were they IVF pregnancy sexless marriages, or bisexual and then exclusive men now so gay longer bisexual?

Who knows but I'd assume more along the lines of denial/confusion as I think he married quite young. At least he didn't string her along for 20+ years like PS

Throwncrumbs · 28/05/2023 17:52

Littlethingsmeanalot · 28/05/2023 17:43

holly Never said she didn’t know the rumours, in fact the opposite, she said she asked him three years ago when it first came out and he strenuously denied it. Itv also launched an investigation and him and M both strenuously denied it. What do you wish them to do, follow them with a video camera?

on why it’s coming out now, clearly Philip tried to stop it again, and the mail has something he’s trying to stop being published. There was no injunction but an nda apparently.

but yes I suspect more to come. And holly knows what it is.

She knew/knows full well, the guy was thrown out of the NTA’s she was there and saw what happened, he was causing a scene allegedly, prob been drinking and we all know what happens when you are emotional and on the booze!

moose62 · 28/05/2023 17:53

From what I read, Phil hired Mishcon de Reyes (law firm) to represent the young man against harassment from the papers but he decided he was tired of lying and told the lawyers the truth so Phil had to come clean or the lad would.
Holly was upset as she had asked him outright when he came out as gay...as he flatly denied it. Shades of his brother as the lad was only 18 when the affair started and Phil was about 58....

Sigmama · 28/05/2023 17:53

Wombastic, you are welcome to start a thread about Erdoğan and Ukraine

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 17:56

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HobNobAddict · 28/05/2023 17:58

Never seen such a fall from grace - shocking behaviour - from all concerned

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 28/05/2023 18:01

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 16:53

If Holly can't safeguard did to bring dim/lack of training/selfish or whatever - at home or work should she be an influencer on Instagram or TV, because if she can't there she can't safeguard the public?

I'm sorry, did you just say it's HW job to safeguard the public as she is an influencer?

I hate to use a well known MN phrase, but, are you on glue?

IncomingTraffic · 28/05/2023 18:02

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I guess at least they’re different squirrels for Schofield threads.

GiltEdges · 28/05/2023 18:03

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 17:22

Dan is 48, HW 41. The son was one when PS handpicked HW. He would have been 35 and her 29. He should have been wiser to someone grooming the m to get to the child, than her due to age.

Wiser because he was 35 to her 29? Please. As an adult woman of almost 30 she's just as responsible for safeguarding her children's wellbeing FFS.

GoOnHoliday · 28/05/2023 18:04

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 28/05/2023 18:01

I'm sorry, did you just say it's HW job to safeguard the public as she is an influencer?

I hate to use a well known MN phrase, but, are you on glue?

I don't hate to use the phrase, are you using Stalin tactics?I

Yes I believe influencers in TV and social media should be safeguarding.

Why would you think they should not be safeguarding - Savile?!

IncomingTraffic · 28/05/2023 18:04

Genuinely, I actually think the online deflection of Schofield threads is the most interesting thing about the whole thing.

He’s paying crisis comms people for this. It’s fascinating to see what takes root and is perpetuated across a range of sites.

TheCartimandua · 28/05/2023 18:07

Whatt · 28/05/2023 17:36

MM opening up to lawyers suggests to me that he finally found a safe space to speak about everything without Phils influence.

It is at least an abuse of power.

Yes. and it suggests to me that he may have disclosed something that day that the solicitors, upon hearing it said, were ethically compelled not to cover up. Perhaps it was the first time this young man had been in a room with people with legal knowledge who were actually acting in his best interests.