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To ask if you believe in past lives?

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Sayhellolikethis · 28/05/2023 15:06

Name changed, as I’ve told MIL and DSis about this already…

Putting my little boy (just turned 4) to bed and he told me “I built 60 bridges during the war and I also built a bomb”. I asked him why he built a bomb and he said “I put 2 bombs on each of my bridges to protect them”. He also said “the factories were covered in camouflage”.

He then added “and a fighter jet plane falled to the ground”.

It was such a ramble of words and then he just wanted to snuggle down and go to sleep.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with their little ones? He won’t talk about it any further. Puzzled!!

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M0ose · 29/05/2023 13:49

I posted this yesterday in another thread

A friend of mine, at the time had a 3 year old boy who loved anything to do with boats and cruise ships and loved to draw them, he was very good and they looked like they had been drawn by a professional.Since he was younger than 3 he would always talk about being on this particular cruise ship that he drew and how he helped design it before it broke, which she put down to his imagination.I am paraphrasing here as im not sure of the exact words but it really stuck with me.One day they were all watching a documentary on the Titanic, it was about building the Tiantic and how the design could have changed to possibly avoid or survive the iceberg collision. She said he jumped up and said he was on it and that he helped make the ship. She finally asked what his name was and he said it was Tom and he had a wife called Helen and a daughter called Liz and his dad was called Tom too and his mum was called Liza and that he tried to help everyone on the ship but he couldn't because there wasn't enough boats for the children so he had to go.Freaked out of course we looked this all up and we truly believe he was the reincarnation of Thomas Andrews who was the Titanic ship builder. His dad was Thomas, his mum was Eliza, his wife was Helen and his daughter was Elizabeth.He almost 9 now so doesn't remember this but is still obsessed with all things drawing.

chupachucks · 29/05/2023 14:03

Sayhellolikethis · 28/05/2023 15:06

Name changed, as I’ve told MIL and DSis about this already…

Putting my little boy (just turned 4) to bed and he told me “I built 60 bridges during the war and I also built a bomb”. I asked him why he built a bomb and he said “I put 2 bombs on each of my bridges to protect them”. He also said “the factories were covered in camouflage”.

He then added “and a fighter jet plane falled to the ground”.

It was such a ramble of words and then he just wanted to snuggle down and go to sleep.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with their little ones? He won’t talk about it any further. Puzzled!!

I think the key here is what you ds said to you. Reincarnation no , recalling something he has seen, heard or told possibly on a trip or TV or museum yes.

His inaccuratsey is saying he put bombs on bridges, which he has confused with explosives. Bombs are explosives in a calindrical object and detonated in impact and would not be used in this way. Any regression would not make this mistake as it would be very much commonsense for some one doing that job.

OnlyFannys · 29/05/2023 14:04

The inherited memory theory is one I have thought about a lot actually as one time when I was a child in had a very vivid dream about being a soldier in a field and being stabbed by a bayonet, I remember feeling myself dying from it. He was quite shocked and told me he had had almost an identical dream years before I was born and was stabbed in the same place. He woke up shouting and woke my mum up apparently. He had never told me the story so we wondered about whether certain memories could be passed down through our genes. Unlikely we will ever know for sure

OnlyFannys · 29/05/2023 14:05

Through I did point out how the soldier would have had to have survived the stabbing to pass down the memory 😁

Mummytolittleones92 · 29/05/2023 14:13

JaneyGee · 28/05/2023 22:28

I doubt we have an immortal soul that re-inhabits another body at death. Other things could explain this stuff. Jung believed that we inherit a collective unconscious, which he described as a ‘million year old man’. For him, it was a kind of collective memory. When a child dreams about ‘monsters’, for example, maybe he’s seeing the reptiles and snakes that hunted our mammalian ancestors. Even Freud thought there was some truth to this.

I’ve got a hunch that we inherit the memories of out ancestors - especially the traumatic ones. People who experiment with LSD, for example (I mean those who do it carefully and seriously, under laboratory conditions) claim they have travelled into their DNA and ‘seen’ incidents from their ancestral past. Then there is epigenetics, which may cast some light on it. All this is way beyond me, but I have a hunch that is what we’re really seeing in past life regression. I’m convinced we somehow inherit memories and traumas, not just of our great grandparents, but of our species, and even our genus.

This is a theory that I believe could possibly carry some weight. Both my sister and one of my children described in detail their ‘old lives’. Both before the age of 4. We didn’t encourage this. They both said random things that at the time didn’t make much sense. The interesting thing was that when my son started describing his ‘old life’, 25 years after my sister had described hers, there were many similarities. The jobs they described were manual worker jobs but fairly niche in our very small town. My son in particular said some very strange but specific things. Both of these jobs had been done by my great great grandparents. I’m not sure what I believe to be honest, but the theory of inherited memory is an interesting one.

KitchenSinkLlama · 29/05/2023 14:14

Shhhquirrel · 28/05/2023 19:24

The naysayers fascinate me. You’re living on a planet in space travelling at 1000 mph. That’s mind blowing, yet you probably take it for granted. Whose to say past lives aren’t real?

It is possible to study and observe our planet's movement through space (as required in any scientific field to prove a hypothesis).
Show me one peer reviewed scientific study that shows the existence of past lives/a soul/ ghosts or any other woo humans have dreamed up over the millennia. Btw you won't be able to.

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:16

@chupachucks

Your theory about bombs and explosives doesn't seem to tie in with the dictionary definition of bomb. A bomb can be a container filled with exposive or incediary material, designed to explode.....when detonated by a timing, proximity, or remove-control device.

noun
noun: bomb; plural noun: bombs; noun: volcanic bomb; plural noun: volcanic bombs; noun: a bomb
1.
a container filled with explosive or incendiary material, designed to explode on impact or when detonated by a timing, proximity, or remote-control device.

Frabbits · 29/05/2023 14:24

Oh look a mainstream newspaper completely misreporting something.

Try harder.

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:27

The aggression of the anti people on this thread is making me boggle. Why are people so angry and demanding about other people's totally harmless beliefs?

helloelsie · 29/05/2023 14:27

We absolutely reincarnate, sometimes thousands of times.

There's lots of evidence.

Read Dr Michael Newton, his is probably the most profound evidence I've found to date.

Frabbits · 29/05/2023 14:29

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:27

The aggression of the anti people on this thread is making me boggle. Why are people so angry and demanding about other people's totally harmless beliefs?

If you must insist on being the thread police, only one poster has called anyone a cunt and it wasn't someone who doesn't believe in this stuff.

Just saying.

Beetlewings · 29/05/2023 14:33

I didn't used to but now, who knows? We're all made of the same stuff, reused, so why not

TwoFluffyDogsOnMyBed · 29/05/2023 14:38

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:27

The aggression of the anti people on this thread is making me boggle. Why are people so angry and demanding about other people's totally harmless beliefs?

Have you noticed that they criticise the anecdotes that perhaps can be explained but they totally ignore the others? Like the Titanic story..

The theory of a small child seeing something on tv and misremembering seems possible but again, the stories of children remembering their way around places they’ve never been is conveniently ignored.

I don’t like how those with ‘rational’ minds criticise the believers but cherry pick the stories they criticise…

KimberleyClark · 29/05/2023 14:38

Stillcountingbeans · 28/05/2023 19:36

To the doubters: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
As a scientifically minded person you should know that.

If the hypothesis explains the facts (i.e. explains the things children say), then don't discount the hypothesis because you don't like it.

I think many people have an emotional investment in 'not believing woo stuff.' Perhaps it comes from fear.

I think many people have an emotional investment in 'not believing woo stuff.' Perhaps it comes from fear.

I think those people are far outnumbered by those with an emotional investment I’m believing woo stuff.

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:39

Frabbits · 29/05/2023 14:29

If you must insist on being the thread police, only one poster has called anyone a cunt and it wasn't someone who doesn't believe in this stuff.

Just saying.

Not insisting on anything, just asking a reasonable question.

TwoFluffyDogsOnMyBed · 29/05/2023 14:41

KimberleyClark · 29/05/2023 14:38

I think many people have an emotional investment in 'not believing woo stuff.' Perhaps it comes from fear.

I think those people are far outnumbered by those with an emotional investment I’m believing woo stuff.

It comes from arrogance. They’re superior because they are rational. I used to be one of them.

KimberleyClark · 29/05/2023 14:41

helloelsie · 29/05/2023 14:27

We absolutely reincarnate, sometimes thousands of times.

There's lots of evidence.

Read Dr Michael Newton, his is probably the most profound evidence I've found to date.

There are more people currently alive than have ever lived. That would suggest there are more bodies than souls.

hookiewookie29 · 29/05/2023 14:42

My 3 year old stepdaughter told me that she used to have 2 brothers "but Mummy was very poor- not my Mummy now, the one I had in the olden days" and that her Mummy had to stab her brothers and kill them because she couldn't afford to feed them. She stuck rigidly to the same story for a long time.

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:44

KimberleyClark · 29/05/2023 14:41

There are more people currently alive than have ever lived. That would suggest there are more bodies than souls.

There can't be more people currently alive than have ever lived.

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:45

@KimberleyClark Ahhhh, sorry, I got it. You mean the population is higher now than it has ever been.

AlwaysGinPlease · 29/05/2023 14:54

I believe for sure. I do not take the piss out of the people that don't believe so I'm not sure why they feel they have the right to take it out if people who do believe. Trying to be so cool and edgy I guess. They just sound like dicks dismissing others beliefs. Same goes for ghosts/supernatural shizzle.

BriarHare · 29/05/2023 14:57

They take the piss because it’s utterly silly.

crazyplanet · 29/05/2023 15:08

When my son was around 3, he used to tell me that he picked me and he used to be my daddy.
I would love to believe but doubt it very much.

CurlewKate · 29/05/2023 15:32

"If the hypothesis explains the facts (i.e. explains the things children say), then don't discount the hypothesis because you don't like it."

I don't discount the hypothesis. I just await evidence to support it.