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To ask if you believe in past lives?

396 replies

Sayhellolikethis · 28/05/2023 15:06

Name changed, as I’ve told MIL and DSis about this already…

Putting my little boy (just turned 4) to bed and he told me “I built 60 bridges during the war and I also built a bomb”. I asked him why he built a bomb and he said “I put 2 bombs on each of my bridges to protect them”. He also said “the factories were covered in camouflage”.

He then added “and a fighter jet plane falled to the ground”.

It was such a ramble of words and then he just wanted to snuggle down and go to sleep.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with their little ones? He won’t talk about it any further. Puzzled!!

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CurlewKate · 29/05/2023 15:41

@AlwaysGinPlease "I believe for sure. I do not take the piss out of the people that don't believe so I'm not sure why they feel they have the right to take it out if people who do believe."
I don't take the piss. You can believe whatever you want to believe. What you can't do is pretend that there is a scintilla of evidence to support your belief. You are perfectly entitled to your own beliefs. You are not entitled to your own facts.

AlwaysGinPlease · 29/05/2023 15:42

CurlewKate · 29/05/2023 15:41

@AlwaysGinPlease "I believe for sure. I do not take the piss out of the people that don't believe so I'm not sure why they feel they have the right to take it out if people who do believe."
I don't take the piss. You can believe whatever you want to believe. What you can't do is pretend that there is a scintilla of evidence to support your belief. You are perfectly entitled to your own beliefs. You are not entitled to your own facts.

I simply said I believe, so wind your neck in

CurlewKate · 29/05/2023 15:45

@AlwaysGinPlease "I simply said I believe, so wind your neck in"

No. You said that people were taking the piss. That was the point I was addressing.

KimberleyClark · 29/05/2023 16:03

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:44

There can't be more people currently alive than have ever lived.

I just googled and you are right. It was something I read that is actually not true

Rollonannualeave · 29/05/2023 16:23

Oh look a mainstream newspaper completely misreporting something.

Try harder

No thanks
I'm lying on a beach in the sunshine. I have no desire to convince you at a cost to my own time and energy. Seek and ye shall find
You do you.

blahblahblah1654 · 29/05/2023 16:25

No i don't believe it. Kids come out with all kinds of stuff, certainly isn't proof of past lives! I also hope it isn't true anyway! There is no concrete evidence. Believe what you want but I'm glad I don't. Imagine the suffering you could be born into if you were born thousands of times?

Rollonannualeave · 29/05/2023 16:26

I find skeptics real energy drainers
Not willing to debate things in a measured way. They just say no, prove it. On repeat ad nauseum. No matter what case studies you provide.

stardustpixy · 29/05/2023 16:32

I think we are like old reconditioned iPhones. When we die - we are reset. But our soul has memories of some sort. Learned lessons from previous lives that enables growth without remembering everything per se. I believe that those children who recall something may have died suddenly and unexpectedly and/or traumatically and something went wrong when they returned and remembered.

CurlewKate · 29/05/2023 17:40

The problem is- all you can say to someone who posts about believing something that appears to have no supporting evidence is either "I don't agree but fair enough." or "Show me some evidence." What else is there?

blahblahblah1654 · 29/05/2023 18:03

I think consciousness begins and ceases in the brain. Once you are dead that's it. Obviously I have no real clue about what happens when we die, but science seems to support that theory. I hope I'm wrong but I've never seen any evidence otherwise, and would certainly hate to be born again. The soul is some magical theory, that helps people overcome the fear of death. I understand and it's scary to think we just cease one day.

blahblahblah1654 · 29/05/2023 18:03

I'd prefer to see all my loved ones again as the me of now in an afterlife.

MaydinEssex · 29/05/2023 18:20

Yes, I definitely believe in it.

Againstmachine · 29/05/2023 19:12

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 14:27

The aggression of the anti people on this thread is making me boggle. Why are people so angry and demanding about other people's totally harmless beliefs?

No one is being aggressive, you feel they are being aggressive because they don't believe same.

People want to be protected but if you believe in bullshit you have to be prepared to be called out on it. And that isn't aggressive it's just facts.

Isthisexpected · 29/05/2023 19:50

People want to be protected but if you believe in bullshit you have to be prepared to be called out on it. And that isn't aggressive it's just facts.

^ i don't believe but I see your reply as aggressive

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 19:53

@Againstmachine

This is you yesterday and it is aggressive, "Nope you are wrong provide evidence it exists oh no you can't it's all anecdotes." also, "If you believe in bullshit you have to be prepared to be called out on it."

Just for information I neither believe or disbelieve in reincarnation. I've no experience of it - but nor am I arrogant enough to believe that people for whom it's a thing need to be called out on it or told their belief is bullshit.

I'm sure that we all believe in or support things that others find questionable things, but we're not all self satisfied and rude enough to belittle other people for their perfectly harmless beliefs.

BriarHare · 29/05/2023 19:54

To me, engaging in a debate about reincarnation would be as daft as arguing with a flat-earther.

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 19:57

BriarHare · 29/05/2023 19:54

To me, engaging in a debate about reincarnation would be as daft as arguing with a flat-earther.

Then don't.

IHateLegDay · 29/05/2023 20:02

Shamelessly place marking to come back to later with a brew ☕️

HRTQueen · 29/05/2023 20:05

No

children pick up bits from films/stories etc and pass off as their own. They repeat information heard often word for word like a recording but it doesn’t mean they actually have much understanding of the subject

TinySaltLick · 29/05/2023 20:06

Genuinely astonished at the number of people responding saying they believe this stuff - when literally no evidence, study or proof has ever even offered a whiff of being true under even the slightest scrutiny

If course it isn't true, it is just optimism bias or coincidences

TinySaltLick · 29/05/2023 20:10

OnlyFannys · 29/05/2023 14:04

The inherited memory theory is one I have thought about a lot actually as one time when I was a child in had a very vivid dream about being a soldier in a field and being stabbed by a bayonet, I remember feeling myself dying from it. He was quite shocked and told me he had had almost an identical dream years before I was born and was stabbed in the same place. He woke up shouting and woke my mum up apparently. He had never told me the story so we wondered about whether certain memories could be passed down through our genes. Unlikely we will ever know for sure

We do know for sure, because we know that children are defined by their dna, which is inherited from their parents which doesn't change to record memories - it is the same genetic material they had as a baby

So we can be categorically sure that there are no inherited memories

Sojo88 · 29/05/2023 20:11

Absolutely I do. Lots of people saying "there's no evidence" when they haven't actually tried looking for any (because why would you if you don't believe?).

If you're looking for a bit more evidence I would recommend reading Through Time Into Healing by Brian Weiss. He's worked with many patients who have found peace in their lives by accessing memories of past lives through deep hypnosis. They've discovered, from looking at their past lives, why they are so angry or anxious in their present life. It's very interesting and it actually makes a lot of sense - we can't remember what we did before this life, so why is it so impossible to believe we were living a different life?

Please at least try and be open-minded to the idea, we know SO little about this earth.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 29/05/2023 20:19

No, I don't believe it at all.

I think adults want to believe it, and children like attention and make believe. Adults then adapt what they are hearing to fit their narrative.

Againstmachine · 29/05/2023 20:48

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 19:53

@Againstmachine

This is you yesterday and it is aggressive, "Nope you are wrong provide evidence it exists oh no you can't it's all anecdotes." also, "If you believe in bullshit you have to be prepared to be called out on it."

Just for information I neither believe or disbelieve in reincarnation. I've no experience of it - but nor am I arrogant enough to believe that people for whom it's a thing need to be called out on it or told their belief is bullshit.

I'm sure that we all believe in or support things that others find questionable things, but we're not all self satisfied and rude enough to belittle other people for their perfectly harmless beliefs.

Nope that isnt agression at all you are wat too sensitive if you think it is.

Its not arrogant your people beliefs are bullshit.

People like you allow predatory clairvoyants to use these people, clairvoyants, and physics are some of the most vile people to exist.

EpicChaos · 29/05/2023 20:52

@Sayhellolikethis " To ask if you believe in past lives? "

Absolutely not.