Have covid and attend outdoor event, would you go?

[Mydietstartstomorrow]

Tested positive for covid on Friday after feeling rough for a few days but just thought it was a head cold, was pretty surprised when that red line appeared! Felt much better yesterday and this morning. There’s an outdoors music festival on today, which I’d ruled out since said red line but friends (ones that were, 3 years ago, very freaked out by the whole thing, rule abiding, social distancing fanatics etc) are like “it’s fine just go, it’s just a cold now” etc! But I feel uncomfortable about it. Obviously I wouldn’t hug anyone or cough on them (bit of a cough still!) wwyd? Would you still go?

I know if I, or any member of my family, was in the vulnerable category (and I did have elderly family members in this category at the height of the pandemic) I would rather make my own judgement about my/their own safety, than assume total strangers were being responsible or meticulous about testing, masking etc. I would not expect other people to make sacrifices or not attend an event because of me. Not because I’m in any way virtuous or self sacrificing, but because I would be the one who would have to suffer or deal with the consequences and risks of any potential infection.

The plastic screens have all gone, the requirement for vaccination has been quietly dropped and public masking has virtually disappeared. The world has moved on - time for us all too as well.

But people stayed home if they were sick/infectious LONG before covid? What has changed that people won’t do this anymore?

But people stayed home if they were sick/infectious LONG before covid? What has changed that people won’t do this anymore?

We stayed at home when we felt unwell. That hasn't changed.

What's changed is an expectation to do so if we feel perfectly fine, but test positive.

People didn't routinely do it even for mild symptoms- you presumably encountered people out and about with a snotty nose, cough, headache etc. And they weren't doing it when they felt well but had tested positive for a virus, because being in that situation was vanishingly rare. It's just never been something that could be sustained for long.

@StormShadow we aren’t talking about someone who has a sniffle and carries on. We’re talking about someone who definitely has an infectious disease that killed millions worldwide and if knowing this they should go out to a crowded place. Very few people get more than a sniffle and a rash wish German measles but if you catch it of course you don’t go out where pregnant women might catch it from you and damage their babies. Mums stay home when their children have chickenpox, etc etc it’s basic common sense and courtesy.

No, you said 'people stayed home if they were sick/infectious long before covid'. You were talking generally, and OP is neither ill nor positive now anyway.

This clearly wasn't true, for reasons already explained. It has never been a norm for people not to ever go anywhere if experiencing any symptoms of illness at all. Covid was unusual in that respect, and even that temporary change in behaviour required a very specific set of social and legal circumstances that couldn't have persisted indefinitely. Sure, most people don't go out with chicken pox scabs (but they're out before the scabs when they're infectious!) and we had things like the 48 hour rule, but what you said is something very different.

German measles also wasn't a great example to choose there, because as well as there being a high coverage pretty successful vaccine, people who do get it are usually only mild or asymptomatic. People who catch it usually don't know. I'm not aware of ever having had it and am fully vaccinated, but I could very well have had it without knowing and transmitted it. The same is probably true of you, unless you're in an unusual position wrt testing for German measles.

I would go

@StormShadow i think we’ll just have to disagree. We were talking about a situation where the individual DID know she was infectious, and you have obviously been under the impression that people don’t stay home when they might infect others with diseases they are carrying which isn’t the norm at all in my experience. No need to argue about it. @Mydietstartstomorrow was asking for opinions as to what to do when she was testing positive, you think crack on and risk spreading it, I think stay home for a few days and limit that risk.

You're moving the goalposts.

You said 'But people stayed home if they were sick/infectious LONG before covid? What has changed that people won’t do this anymore?'.

Before covid means you obviously can't mean OP or anyone else with covid.

And what you said was wrong. You left out asymptomatic transmission, which is a big deal when you're citing diseases like rubella which is usually not noticeable. Also it's just not credible that anyone living amongst other humans didn't commonly encounter people with snotty or blocked noses, coughs or headaches going about their day to day business. There is no way that was your norm.

Lastly, the only advice I actually gave to the OP was after she was negative and feeling better. When I said I'd go, but if she's going to worry it for herself by ruining she shouldn't bother. This is a separate point to whether people didn't used to go out when infectious and/or ill pre covid. Which they absolutely did.

I don't even read these threads but PLEASE GO! even if I had the mother of all colds I wouldn't test and would continue to go to work and wherever.

And when I see people with masks I laugh. You do know that masks protect third parties not the wearer?

You laugh at people who wear a mask? Nice!
You do realise that not all masks are equal don't you? If they are wearing a mask, it probably means that they are extremely vulnerable and trying their best not to catch anything, or they may have covid and trying not to spread it.

Yeah, people can wear whatever they like. It's a myofb situation.

@StormShadow I’m not moving any goalposts. I think I have an entirely unremarkable response to infectious disease. If you turn up at events and parties with a streaming cold or send your child to school or nursery with D&V bugs you are NOT the norm as and most people would think you were antisocial at best and bloody irresponsible at worst. Nobody can help spreading disease if they don’t know they have it, OP did so her situation is different. I’m happy for you to think I’m wrong. I think people who knowingly risk infecting others with covid are arseholes, you don’t, it’s a big world and we all fit in somewhere.

You 100% are. And you're moving them again here.

Even if I charitably assume you weren't thinking about people who were asymptomatic and infectious and just chose your words badly, it was never the case that people who were ill always stayed in. D and V, sure, people usually observed some level of staying at home with that. Colds though, no. And what's a streaming cold anyway, as opposed to a normal cold? I notice you didn't address the point about coughs and headaches either! There is just no way that you didn't routinely encounter people with coughs, headaches and colds going about their daily lives. You're either bullshitting or in denial. People going out whilst ill but well enough to function has long been a normal part of life.

As for the last part, actually I think the passing of moral judgement on this point became stupid a long time ago. It's pure self-indulgence three and a half years in.

And yet many work places still expect employees in work with, covidso obviously it's ok for them to.be put at risk
we have vaccines and treatments now of course Covid, can be a serious infection for some people just like any virus .

You do realise that schools actually expect their pupils in even with Covid?
assuming they are well.enough.

Exactly.
The whole world has moved on - not just the U.K. either. Reporting has been completely dropped by all MSM and the weekly online updates are totally out of kilter, so of no value anyway.
If an individual feels they are at risk, they should be assessing their own vulnerability and consequences of an infection. You can absolutely guarantee in any crowd or public place, several will be aware or unaware that they are carrying a potential virus. There are still approximately 2.5 million unvaccinated people in this country, so the chances are you are in close proximity with one every single day and as we know now, even being vaxxed doesn’t prevent infection or transmission or even severity of symptoms as I’ve known fully vaxxed be very poorly, unvaxxed barely aware they’ve had covid.

How would a school child know they had covid unless they were ill? Guys I appreciate you feel people should just carry on. It’s not something I agree with. I always kept my kids home when ill, and wouldn’t go to a concert with covid. I don’t see anything to be ashamed of in that and honestly think the majority of people feel the same.

Either you aren't using a very wide definition of ill or you don't know many people. As I've said several times, it's not plausible that everyone you knew stayed at home if they had a snotty nose, stuffy nose, any cough or a headache. It's not just about raging diarrhoea.

You are far more likely to be seriously ill if you are unvaccinated. You may still contract the disease and of course may get seriously ill if vaccinated.

Many, people have no choice but to.just carry on ,Many Employers Expect their Employees in regardless of whether they have Covid,or not

@x2boys true. We all make choices when we can and post from our own experience.