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Leaving newborn alone for 5 mins at a time?

359 replies

Birminghambabe · 25/05/2023 08:35

This might sound ridiculous but I’m a FTM and unsure if I am BU.

If my 4 week old is asleep in our bedroom but I need to do some washing up, have a quick shower etc I leave him for 5 mins at a time (always checking on him every 5 mins). Sometimes if I move him into his Moses downstairs he wakes up so I try and keep him asleep in his crib upstairs.

My friend who is also a mum to a newborn said she could never do that and would just move him even if it disturbs him into the same room as her.

Now as a FTM I’m now paranoid that I shouldn’t be leaving him - someone please tell me if I’m doing this wrong!

OP posts:
Mamamess · 25/05/2023 12:17

your doing what I would consider the right thing? Let your baby sleep where they’re happy and take that as a win! I wouldn’t disturb either I’d find that really frustrating if my baby was asleep then I woke them moving them. My ds 2 had his day sleeps upstairs in NTM from early on I just had the monitor on.

Dinosaurus86 · 25/05/2023 12:18

@ZoeQ90 for the evening sleep (if not just cluster feeding…) we put DS in the Moses basket in the living room with us. He’d then come up to bed with us at 10/11. When he got to about 3 or 4 months we started putting him in the cot upstairs for the evening, with the monitor and checking regularly. I admit I also used a breathing monitor clipped onto his nappy for about the first 6 months.

KatharinaRosalie · 25/05/2023 12:18

I'm also from the country where it's normal to put the kids outside (garden/balcony) to sleep. Nobody sits next to the pram while they nap. If it was so dangerous, there would be significantly higher SIDS rates in Scandi countries, but that's not the case.

Oblomov23 · 25/05/2023 12:20

Of course you can it's so sad that you even need to ask. You leave them to go to the toilet, to have a shower, to wash up, to cook, anything : it's all totally fine.

Oblomov23 · 25/05/2023 12:21

Your friend is a twat. Note their comment down and when your kids are 18 remind her of it. She'll cringe.

Maebh9 · 25/05/2023 12:22

Re the SIDS concern, hasn't the (horrendous, msrip) tortoise story reminded us that you can be in the same room and not notice a problem anyway?

It all just seems like needless blame and stress for mums to me.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/05/2023 12:27

Staying in the same room 24 hours isn't remotely realistic for the majority of parents, so we really need as a society to stop making new mothers anxious by peddling constantly that they're doing their child a disservice not to be.

I have honestly never heard anyone say anything like this IRL. It’s a phenomenon for MN only. Some on MN like making women feel inadequate when they have babies.

brassbells · 25/05/2023 12:29

Please do not put the baby on top of something raised up either while inside a car seat or something else or just as itself

So not on settee or bed or table as the baby grows it will learn to move and "might" fall off so please put the baby or the chair on the floor then baby will always be safe from falling off

Katiesaidthat · 25/05/2023 12:32

Had to smile. Mine slept in her cot in our bedroom, just fine. Would check every half hour during the day. We live in 70 square metres, not Buckingham Palace. Ahhh, memories.

TellKingTutIWantMyMummy · 25/05/2023 12:33

You have to wash and eat and poop! Get a breathing monitor and a baby monitor to alleviate your worries.

SophieinParis · 25/05/2023 12:44

Obviously that’s fine. Go off your instinct. So many people I know seem to Google every flippin thing, and follow advice to the absolute letter. Have confidence and follow your instinct. It served me well through many dc! I personally would leave the newborn and very frequently check. I couldn’t leave them upstairs for more than 10/15 mins without checking on them at the newborn stage. This obviously got longer as they get older.

Maray1967 · 25/05/2023 12:45

CastleTower · 25/05/2023 09:21

Technically the safe sleep advice is always to be in the room with them until 6 months.

In reality, I don't think I know anyone who does this.

Frequent checking + monitor is more realistic. If the baby is in a safe, clear cot (not, e.g., a car seat) then the risk is very minimal. I'd be more cautious if they were in a car seat or similar.

It’s a wonder that babies born years ago survived …
OP, make sure baby is in a safe sleeping space eg a proper cot or crib with safe bedding, then put the monitor on and get on with your day. If ill, then I’d monitor more closely.

user1477391263 · 25/05/2023 12:45

Your friend is loopy and will probably have a nervous breakdown at some point. Ignore her.

SparklyTwinkleGlitter · 25/05/2023 12:51

@AnnWithoutAnnie You sound extremely anxious which is far worse for an impressionable young child than any of your notions about increased SIDS risks unless you hover over them 24/7, which is unrealistic.

You need to accept that no matter how much you try, you simply cannot control everything around you and to let go a bit.

DeflatedAgain · 25/05/2023 13:12

I left my newborn for about that but admittedly I was constantly checking 🙈With time it'll get easier for you.

Get them used to being alone, I always had DS in his own bassinet in my room at night but a little bit away from me and increased the distance slowly. He sleeps well on his own now at 6mo.

brassbells · 25/05/2023 13:14

Our grandparents and probably parents would put the baby in the pram outside for ages alone!

Obviously, times and opinions have changed since then but I do think maybe your friend has swung the pendulum a bit too far in the other direction

adomizo · 25/05/2023 13:19

All this carrying about of moses baskets is definetly not safe ! It's totally fine to leave them alone for a bit.

AnnWithoutAnnie · 25/05/2023 13:20

HairsprayBabe · 25/05/2023 11:25

The evidence that links being in the same room as a sleeping infant with reducing cot death risk is poor quality and not particularly well understood. So much so that most other developed countries do not include it in their safe sleep guidelines.

Maybe you should try reading up on it instead of being needlessly rude.

@HairsprayBabe

that wasn't needlessly rude. The poster was belittling the OP asking if the OP thought an eagle would swoop in.

I have done plenty of reading re SIDS thanks, and I consider leaving a newborn sleeping alone a risk I am not prepared to take. They're not exactly difficult to take with you, or the other parent, grandparents, etc. It doesn't have to be the mother, though some research suggests that, there's a small amount of benefit to it being the mother.

if it's a risk that doesn't worry others, then that's their call.

openstop · 25/05/2023 13:21

I wish I'd been told it was ok

AnnWithoutAnnie · 25/05/2023 13:23

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/05/2023 11:27

One of the biggest protective factors of SIDS is putting baby to sleep on their backs. Some of the other advice have mild protective factors at best but aren't fully understood or proven.

Common sense needs to be encouraged here, as well as proven big risk factors.

@SouthLondonMum22

How the baby is put in the cot wasn't the question though. It was if what the OP was doing leaving the baby alone to sleep & popping in & out was ok or is her friend correct & why. The replies would have been different if she'd asked what the biggest risk re SIDS is.

RafaistheKingofClay · 25/05/2023 13:25

Birminghambabe · 25/05/2023 08:49

This is my logic and why I don’t mind leaving him for 5 mins at a time but she was so shocked at me I thought I was doing something wrong

Although I have just ordered a baby monitor, I don’t know why I didn’t think of this myself - must have baby brain!

It’s not about watching him it’s about risk of SIDS. Are you leaving for 5 mins to do something and then going back into the room with him or are you leaving and checking every 5 mins.

The first is fine, the second is riskier because they ought to have someone in the room with them although you don’t need to be actually sitting and watching them.

If you are going to get a baby monitor and leave him to sleep upstairs, then you’ll need one with a breathing alarm. But they can be a PITA if they go off unnecessarily.

Summerfun2023 · 25/05/2023 13:29

SomeNights · 25/05/2023 08:39

Safe sleep guidelines say they shouldn't sleep in a room alone until six months. I think there's a difference between leaving for five minutes total to pop to the toilet, and leaving for half an hour or more but checking in every five minutes.

A sling might be useful for getting on with general household jobs.

What could happen if she did leave her baby for 30 minutes with a baby monitor in the room?
I assume most of us on here have had babies and have done the opposite of what the guidelines suggest and they were fine. There is too much pressure on parents to be glued to their babies and that sets them up for bad habits. My second DD had no nighttime feeds from day 1 don't know how I managed that but she was eating well enough in the day.

HairsprayBabe · 25/05/2023 13:30

@AnnWithoutAnnie you were rude.

The other poster was light-heartedly reassuring the OP that she need not worry about this, there was no belittling.

You quite clearly do not understand how to interpret data if these are your conclusions from all your "research".

sweeneytoddsrazor · 25/05/2023 13:37

Can you post links to all your research, or explain how it works rather than just trotting out it regulates their breathing? How does it do this, what other factors might interfer with this regulation?

HairsprayBabe · 25/05/2023 13:39

@sweeneytoddsrazor yes I would like to see that too.