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To wonder what runs through some people's heads sometimes?

339 replies

FattyAirways · 23/05/2023 09:31

I was at a cafe enjoying breakfast. The cafe is big, got around 25 tables in. I was the only one in the cafe. A couple, came in, placed their order at the till and came and sat at the table right beside me! They had 20-odd other tables to choose from. My table wasn't in an enviable position in the cafe, no views out of the window, nothing special about this area in the cafe, yet they chose to do this. Why?

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MojacaSunset · 23/05/2023 11:53

People just gravitate to other people, it most cases it's unconscious.

takealettermsjones · 23/05/2023 11:54

takemetoyourdollshouse · 23/05/2023 11:53

I went to a shop the other day - heavily pregnant and with my young DC and chose to park in a long line of empty spaces so I’d have enough room to park and get out. Just as I’d walked around my car to get my DC and my bag out and had opened the car door another woman started slowly reversing into the space next to me (where I had the door open)🙄my look of complete exasperation must have been such that she decided against it and moved a few spaces down 😂

I've had this too, and almost cried 🤣 pregnant women should be able to use parent and child spaces imo!

EbonyRaven · 23/05/2023 11:55

Twobyfour · 23/05/2023 11:39

Was the only person on a large deserted beach in Greece, sunbathing on a towel. A noisy German family arrived and set up close to me but the really annoying thing was as their children ran shouting towards the sea one of them trampled on my towel right next to my head. I’m sure it was deliberate, the fuckers!

That reminds me! Me and DH and the kids were on a 10 day all-inclusive holiday in Spain some years ago (maybe 17 years ago,) and we were staying at a big 12 storey hotel near the beach. So.... we picked our table to sit at for breakfast, and put our drinks on the table, along with our bags, cardigans, and jackets - and mine and DH's phones. All on the table. We went to the buffet line to get our breakfast. Came back 3-4 minutes later, and a family of four Germans - a 50-something couple and their 2 young adult children, were sitting at the table!

Our jackets/cardigans/bags and our PHONES were all on the floor! And the drinks were gone! 2 coffees and 2 cokes. Shock I said 'excuse me. This is our table, and you have thrown all our belongings on the floor. And where are our drinks?'

They completely ignored us. Didn't even make eye contact. On what planet is THIS acceptable behaviour? Hmm Utterly shameless. Turns out our drinks had been dumped on a window ledge some 20 feet away from the table.

NOT an attack on German people by the way, and we have met many lovely ones. Just jogged my memory as this post ^ was about a German family. When this happened to us, I was so angry, that it actually ruined my day. I could not fathom how anyone could do this. Such rude and obnoxious and breathtakingly arrogant behaviour!

Irequireausername · 23/05/2023 11:55

ThoseDamnCrows · 23/05/2023 11:07

My MIL does this all the time, she's a true extrovert and needs to constantly be around other people. In a cafe she wants to see what the other diners are eating, does it look good and are they enjoying it? On public transport she wants to listen to conversations, and will happily join in so will always choose to sit very close to other passengers.

Last week I took her out for the day, our walking route took us past a certain clothes boutique four times. It had a sale rail outside which MIL wasn't interested in on the 2nd time, but was on the 1st 3rd and 4th purely because other women were looking through the clothes and she needed to see what they were interested in.
Similar in supermarkets, if someone else is buying it then it must be good.

At least your MIL actually engages with people.

What's the point of just awkwardly hanging around strangers without interacting?

TerfIngOnTheBeach · 23/05/2023 11:55

feelingfree17 · 23/05/2023 11:19

Just like when you purposely park in an out of the way spot at a supermarket (to enjoy a big fat cream cake in peace) and that person cannot find any other spot in a huge fairly empty car park, apart from the one right next to you!

And then they sit in their car doing nothing so you still can't eat your big fat cream bun without then glancing sideways at you.

Eventually you just drive away.....

ReflectedFlowers · 23/05/2023 11:56

😂 This thread does seem ripe to rip off for comedy skits.

SomersetDreams · 23/05/2023 11:57

Its the same with parking. Park right at the end of a car park with empty spaces around....wait a few mins and ta daaa someone wil park right next door!!

It might be a safety thing or just people gravitate to where you are sitiing maybe they think you chose a nice spot.....I always move lol Maybe they even wanted a CHAT!! arrrgh

KimberleyClark · 23/05/2023 11:59

DH and I have often found on holiday that if we go into an empty cafe or bar, a few minutes later other people start coming in. It’s like they don’t want to go in if it’s empty but feel better about doing so if there is someone else there.

headstone · 23/05/2023 12:00

willsmith, I quite like my space too ,but I don’t find other people that irritating just by being near me. I generally choose places away from people in coffee shops if I can be a my kids are annoying. The couple in question were just sat reading a newspaper.

EbonyRaven · 23/05/2023 12:00

@ThoseDamnCrows · Today 11:07

My MIL does this all the time, she's a true extrovert and needs to constantly be around other people. In a cafe she wants to see what the other diners are eating, does it look good and are they enjoying it? On public transport she wants to listen to conversations, and will happily join in so will always choose to sit very close to other passengers.

Have to say, I would find your MIL's behaviour utterly infuriating. People don't want random strangers sitting next to them and poking into their conversations, joining in, and sticking their twopenceworth it, and wondering if they are enjoying their food. What incredibly odd behaviour. That's not being an 'extrovert,' that is being incredibly weird.

Pr1mr0se · 23/05/2023 12:01

People do this in empty car parks too. Maybe they thought they were just being sociable rather than treating you like a leper.

Vesuviusbeats · 23/05/2023 12:04

I feel like the people who do this almost have a sixth sense for who doesn't want them nearby, and it just attracts them more. After masks stopped being compulsory during covid, I kept wearing mine (my mum was on chemo for advanced cancer and if I'd passed covid on to her it would probably have killed her.) Without fail, some twat without a mask would ignore the multitude of other people who also weren't wearing masks, and would plonk themselves down right next to me. I don't know if it was a subconscious thought that "she's being cautious so she's less likely to be ill" but grrrr!

JandalsAlways · 23/05/2023 12:04

I had this happen alot when travelling at beaches, would walk miles to find a quiet spot, then someone would sit right next to me!!

lieselotte · 23/05/2023 12:04

Often when you go to a cafe or restaurant where you have to wait to be seated they put you right next to someone else, even if it's not busy. Very weird.

I do often park next to people in a car park as it's easier to line myself up, but I wouldn't park next to someone in a completely or near empty car park, only if it's say middling busy. Once someone parked next to me in a completely empty car park so I moved.

It doesn't tend to happen on trains, probably because I am usually going towards London where people may well sit next to you because they know the train will fill up anyway and women will often sit next to women, or slim people next to slim people. But I remember one time a guy made a beeline for the seat next to me in a near empty carriage which was going to get emptier, so I moved. He gave me a "look" but I didn't care, he was being a twotsit.

EbonyRaven · 23/05/2023 12:04

TerfIngOnTheBeach · 23/05/2023 11:55

And then they sit in their car doing nothing so you still can't eat your big fat cream bun without then glancing sideways at you.

Eventually you just drive away.....

I have done this before. Got something to eat (when I have been out all day and I am hungry) and gone to the car to eat it. Then some fecker parks next to me, and just sits in their car watching me eat. Confused Weirdos! I actually turn my back so my back is against the driver's door, and facing the passenger door, so the weirdo can't see me.. 😆When I have finished eating, I turn back round and they're gone! Must have got pissed off that they couldn't watch me eating. Grin

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 12:06

ThoseDamnCrows · 23/05/2023 11:07

My MIL does this all the time, she's a true extrovert and needs to constantly be around other people. In a cafe she wants to see what the other diners are eating, does it look good and are they enjoying it? On public transport she wants to listen to conversations, and will happily join in so will always choose to sit very close to other passengers.

Last week I took her out for the day, our walking route took us past a certain clothes boutique four times. It had a sale rail outside which MIL wasn't interested in on the 2nd time, but was on the 1st 3rd and 4th purely because other women were looking through the clothes and she needed to see what they were interested in.
Similar in supermarkets, if someone else is buying it then it must be good.

Isn’t it pathetic when people don’t have a mind of their own…😂

duchessofginlane · 23/05/2023 12:06

Two friends got on. One sat next to me and the other sat on the seat across the aisle. It made no sense.

That must have been some kind of wind up, prank, whatever....not normal!

EbonyRaven · 23/05/2023 12:08

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 12:06

Isn’t it pathetic when people don’t have a mind of their own…😂

Yeah I agree. Very odd that this poster's MIL always has to see what other people are doing, to make a decision for herself. So weird! 😆

Kissedbyfire1 · 23/05/2023 12:09

When this happens to me I always move, particularly on public transport. The flocker always looks askance, if not actively irritated when I do it. It’s unfathomable.
DH and I were hiking in the Austrian alps one summer. We got to the top and sat in the most glorious meadow, stunning views, space to have our lunch. We were some way from the path but another couple walked across and sat down next to us. We moved and the look of astonishment on their faces was priceless.
Fish for sure.

oakleaffy · 23/05/2023 12:09

Kleptronic · 23/05/2023 09:50

Literally nothing runs through their heads, it's automatic and psychologists call it flocking. It's because we used to be fish or something https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23041055/#:~:text=Abstract,explicit%20inter%2Dindividual%20recruitment%20signals.

I noticed it as a child.. Drove my parents mad..We'd find a deserted place on an emptyish beach, or woodland to sit down and along would come another family and flomp down.

Cocopogo · 23/05/2023 12:10

This thread makes me feel a bit sad that people don’t interact more. We are just becoming more and more isolated and cut off in our own self importance.

ShimmeringShirts · 23/05/2023 12:11

@takealettermsjones I wasn’t meaning to imply you had been, sorry it came across that way. I’d meant those that are being deliberately and maliciously disparaging about people behaving like people. I don’t understand the need for it, I dislike socialising and being close to others so I simply take myself out of the equation and stay away from places I have a chance of coming into contact with others. I can see it’s a me problem, not a people problem, the vast majority of people on this thread see it as a people problem though despite the fact that they’re putting themselves in that position.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 23/05/2023 12:13

user1497207191 · 23/05/2023 10:34

Noise, lack of privacy, difficulty in getting out of your seat when chairs/tables are close together, parking their pram blocking you from getting out when they could have parked it the other side next to an empty table.

Like parking the car - why make it more difficult to get in/out of the car by parking in the next bay leaving maybe a foot of space, when they could have parked elsewhere leaving an entire empty space to get in/out.

Also, it's nice to be able to have a more private conversation, uninterrupted by other people's wittering or shouting. I much prefer to be able to hear my companion easily rather than trying to make out what they're saying against a background of another conversation.

My most annoying one was when DH & I settled into our usual table in the back corner of a local cafe, then a couple of women came in & they sat at the next table (3 rooms of empty tables available to them, as we were the first customers there). One of them monopolised their conversation, being a bit too loud & cutting out her friend every time she tried to say anything, drawling her words every now & then in her monologue so there was no space for her friend to get a word in.

If I'd known how bad she was going to be, I'd've moved as soon as they sat there.

FatCatBum · 23/05/2023 12:15

thatsn0tmyname · 23/05/2023 10:47

I was once in an empty cinema with my boyfriend and one other man came in. He sat directly behind us. I fully expected to be stabbed and couldn't focus on the film.

I would have moved.

HorizontalSausage · 23/05/2023 12:16

I would have said ok, you take this table and moved!