Why so much fuss over Stella Braverman?

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I’m just wondering who on earth cares? Can’t understand why this is such big news.

Could you show me a link? I have looked through two pages of google and cannot find this facility.

I have shown above how a well known actor and James Blunt had to join everyone else on Zoom. I'm sure they would've done one to one if it were available, rather than have the piss taken out of them!

@AnarchoTyrannosaurus an expert in how the Civil Service works because she works there. There's two on this thread now. Funny how the Suella fans are allowed to posit any scenario they want in defence of their heroine, but when someone comes on here to challenge them, they're basically accused of lying by the likes of you.

I honestly don't give a toss if you don't believe me, sweetie.

They all just got on with it and faced the consequences - didn't lie about it
Not so Ms Braverman that's the difference - she's brought all this on herself

Wait a minute - when did Braverman lie or refuse to face consequences? I know her SPAD denied any speeding but it's not their place to say, it wasn't fair on them to ask them about it. But Braverman? There doesn't appear to be any attempt to avoid consequences and I certainly haven't seen any actual reports outside professional outrage although I'm more than happy to be corrected because it stung a little having to tell my relative I was wrong and they were right.

There is widespread press coverage confirming that yes, private speed awareness courses are available for an additional fee.

Because where the law is concerned, the buck stops with her. She allegedly tried to manipulate the civil service for personal benefit, having already broken the ministerial code once before. Standards and ethics in public office matter very much.

Putting that aside, she’s incompetent and her dog whistle politics are disgraceful and she ought to go for those reasons alone.

Must be horrible to go through life so full of suspicion and mistrust.

Here's a solicitor who has arranged them. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/22/inappropriate-for-braverman-to-ask-for-one-to-one-speed-course-says-motoring-solicitor

(I definitely wouldn't call Eddie Marsen a well known actor)

How would an online speeding course risk her security? Would it really matter if she was recorded if she was paying attention and did the course properly?

This feels like Johnson and the pot plants all over again. 🪴🪴🪴 People will excuse and excuse and excuse the terrible behaviour of this rancid government. It is just pointless arguing with such people.

I can't imagine anyone going to the cabinet office if she'd just said, "Can you do 1 to 1 speed awareness courses?" It sounds more plausible that she asked someone to sort it for her which is quite a different thing.

If 1 to 1 courses are available why didn't she book one, surely the Home Secretary should be able to do that, if it is beyond her abilities we have very serious stuff to worry about.

Some posters are so vociferous in their defence of cake and speed that all they do is prolong these threads, which only serves to make people more angry with the government. Do those posters work for the Labour party?

Well I guess that will be tough for you

Four times her SPAD denied that there were any speeding charges at all - did she correct him? No she didn't she let the lie stand That's a lie of omission even if she didn't ask him to do that for her

She tried to avoid the consequences - but having failed to do so had to submit

Lol

Well why didn't she pay for one if that's what she wanted?

That's interesting. So it is possible to have one to one courses. But that solicitor doesn't believe she should have one. But goes on to say It’s for a very tiny minority of people whose presence would cause such a distraction it would dilute the purpose of the course,

Obviously people would be distracted if she was on the same course. Just her name gets people frothing at the mouth, as this thread demonstrates.

She asked her private secretary if they could arrange one, why the private secretary couldn’t just reply that she wasn’t able to do that as it was a private matter is beyond me.

I must be googling the wrong thing then, I googled private speed awareness courses and nothing came up

She isn't trying to get a handle on immigration. If she was, she would invest in making Home Office systems much more efficient, and would work with the MoJ to make the Immigration Tribunal more efficient. Instead, she'd devoting her time to things like the ridiculous Rwanda proposal which costs a fortune and has achieved precisely nothing, and pronouncements designed to appeal to the right wing. Because she is way more interested in her political career than doing her job properly.

And if it is not easy for you why couldn't Braverman do it herself?

So Braverman had the sufficient understanding & foresight to forward confidential, highly sensitive information via her private email address to an MP's wife.

But lacked the understanding to pick up a telephone and arrange a 1-2-1 course herself.

Righto.

definitely wouldn't call Eddie Marsen a well known actor

Nor would I but the tweet was funny and he was being self deprecating!

Rousette, it’s in the Guardian, Telegraph and iNews amongst others

I am mystified as to why she couldn't book it then?

Kier Starmer has got wind of this, cum in his pants and called for her immediate resignation

Dear God. Is this the level of discourse Tories are slithering down to?

There are so many cases of the civil service being grotesquely negligent such as the recent case whereby a criminal gang were buying up expiring passports and renewing them with the photo of a convicted criminal (who obviously looked nothing like the previous photo). There never seems to be any comeback for actions like these despite posing a huge security threat.