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A friend posted this…I agree

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Wheredowegonobodyknows · 20/05/2023 19:04

Does anyone else? Just feels different in the world, I can’t put my finger on exactly what or how

A friend posted this…I agree
OP posts:
LibbyL92 · 22/05/2023 21:35

God knows. I just know
my ears and teeth haven’t been the same since covid.

etopp · 22/05/2023 21:43

Dacadactyl · 20/05/2023 20:33

Thats probably why I was unscathed. I spent about the first 6 weeks listening to the rules and then decided it was all bollocks and did what I liked.

You spent six more weeks listening to the rules than I did. They were clearly a load of bollocks, designed to scare people into compliance. One of the many lasting effects of Covid, for me, is that I now believe that the overwhelming majority of people are completely stupid and will believe anything they are told.

Wheredowegonobodyknows · 22/05/2023 21:47

@LibbyL92 Ears & teeth how?

OP posts:
LibbyL92 · 22/05/2023 22:01

Wheredowegonobodyknows · 22/05/2023 21:47

@LibbyL92 Ears & teeth how?

My ears ache now and then. And my four bottom front teeth keep throbbing as well. Then it disappears for a few months and all returns!

it’s so bloody weird! Dentist have checked it out and can’t see anything.

it’s all since I’ve had covid.

Dymaxion · 22/05/2023 22:09

@Goodread1 your post reads like something written by AI.

Saniflo · 22/05/2023 22:11

Things have changed for the better for us. We get to WFH all the time and realised we needed a much bigger house and garden so moved to our "forever home". I think some people just enjoyed the drama.

Justalittlebitduckling · 22/05/2023 22:13

The war in Ukraine has changed the geo-political situation. The energy crisis has affected millions of people. So in that sense I agree!

TropicalMoon · 22/05/2023 22:24

There’s been a lot of changes and big events in a very short period of time. Brexit, Covid/lockdowns , cost of living crisis, housing crisis, rich/poor divide more apparent, Ukraine being invaded, the Queen (whether you’re a Royalist or not) passing marked an end of an era. We have an extremely crap government who many of us have no faith in - It’s no wonder people perhaps feel more negative or are more cynical than before. I don’t believe it’s all doom and gloom though. There’s still lots of good in the world & things to look forward too. I have 2 young dcs, I’m not having them growing up thinking the world is shit, because it’s not.

Fairislefandango · 22/05/2023 22:30

Utter poppycock! The world is always changing!

^This. Every age has changes of attitudes, priorities, public feeling. Conflicting views between different generations. Reactions to disasters, big events, political changes etc. It's all perfectly normal and not at all new. Everyone likes to think that their era is different and unique, and they're right, it is! But so was everyone else's Grin

Tooyoungtofeelthisold · 22/05/2023 22:36

Since coming out of lockdown there's been a definite shift in the things around us.
What has caused it though? Maybe the evil intent that people think the upper classes have in mind, or maybe something changed psychologically in us all during lockdown? Maybe businesses are dealing with massive differences in how they operate? Maybe this is partially brexit?
I don't know but there's a change

Freezylap · 22/05/2023 22:48

I think things have changed massively since covid. We’ve had a pandemic, a recession and war on our doorstep.

Most people I speak to say they avoid the news as a coping mechanism, but that’s not a healthy way to cope. Attempting to suppress unpalatable truths never works. When you try to pretend awful things aren’t happening then you become disconnected from reality.

MsRosley · 23/05/2023 00:07

SargentSagittarius · 21/05/2023 02:19

I agree, OP.

But I can’t believe not one person has mentioned the actual cause of things. Not one person.

The internet and social media.

Now everyone with something to say, can say it.

Social media is 100% the cause of a decline in social cohesion.

It’s a real and present threat to democracy.

For the widespread (mis)use of violent porn.

It’s the reason for such poor mental health in young people (not to mention older people).

It’s the reason for the trans social contagion and therefore, of women’s rights being threatened in the most significant way it has been since feminism was invented.

Everything boils down to social media.

@SargentSagittarius I literally mentioned it about half a dozen posts before yours! 😂

MsRosley · 23/05/2023 00:09

@SargentSagittarius Ha ha, my turn to apologise now. I missed your apology! 😃

SargentSagittarius · 23/05/2023 00:09

I acknowledged that immediately afterwards @MsRosley

SargentSagittarius · 23/05/2023 00:09

All good 👍

adviceneeded1990 · 23/05/2023 00:18

widowtwankywashroom · 20/05/2023 21:18

I actually think there is something wrong with me at times, or do I just have a greater coping mechanism. I don't know, it affected me at the time, greatly, but now, no it hasn't had a lasting effect.

@widowtwankywashroom you sound like a normal, strong, competent person to me! I know friends who nursed/doctored through COVID and are fine, I worked in my school/teaching hub throughout and didn’t crumble hysterically. Not everyone is prone to dramatics, some of us know that things can always be worse and just get on with it!

As others have said, our parents/grandparents lived through bloody WW2 without all this over reaction! 🙈

WonkyPicture · 23/05/2023 01:14

Things massively changed for us. Husband had a major anxiety problem from working from home, the fall out from that has destroyed or marriage and we're no longer together. Before that we were deeply in love.

HollyBerri · 23/05/2023 06:42

Dacadactyl · 20/05/2023 19:11

I disagree. While I didn't enjoy the lockdowns, I don't understand the hysteria about them, things didn't massively change for us.

Can you really not see how it may have hac a negative impact on many others though. Personally lockdown was fine for me but i can assure you its affects will be felt for many years.
The negative impact on children’s education, speech and language and mental health is unprecedented and will be felt for years to come. I presume the same for adults but the former I know as i work in this area.

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 23/05/2023 06:54

What is there to agree with? It's meaningless.

LottaLinda · 23/05/2023 08:12

People have changed because of covid. The scaremongering, compulsory mask wearing, extended school closures, laws preventing families and friends from being together, 'key worker' status and their special children who could still go to school, furlough, getting paid while having a staycation, covid deaths and long covid plus vulnerable shielding. All this has fundamentally changed people's outlook and behaviour and sense of security and self determination.

Social media and smart phones. People want it their way and they want it now in real life, just like on SM. We have all become self centred and impatient with reduced concentration and patience. It's actually and measurably changing our brains and the fabric of society. Interesting times.

CharlottenBurger · 23/05/2023 09:41

LottaLinda · 23/05/2023 08:12

People have changed because of covid. The scaremongering, compulsory mask wearing, extended school closures, laws preventing families and friends from being together, 'key worker' status and their special children who could still go to school, furlough, getting paid while having a staycation, covid deaths and long covid plus vulnerable shielding. All this has fundamentally changed people's outlook and behaviour and sense of security and self determination.

Social media and smart phones. People want it their way and they want it now in real life, just like on SM. We have all become self centred and impatient with reduced concentration and patience. It's actually and measurably changing our brains and the fabric of society. Interesting times.

Don't agree about calling publicity 'scaremongering' and the measures in your second sentence. They were needed.

Dacadactyl · 23/05/2023 10:37

HollyBerri · 23/05/2023 06:42

Can you really not see how it may have hac a negative impact on many others though. Personally lockdown was fine for me but i can assure you its affects will be felt for many years.
The negative impact on children’s education, speech and language and mental health is unprecedented and will be felt for years to come. I presume the same for adults but the former I know as i work in this area.

To a degree, yes. But it was the lengths people went to to be seen to comply that baffled me. They brought it on themselves to some extent. I mean, a society that "saves the old" to the detriment of the young is not a forward thinking one. And I think the government have deliberately orchestrated things because a compliant and reliant population suits them. And as others have said, SM was used to its fullest extent to demonise people like me who were questioning things.

If we'd all taken to the streets (I was at every protest going) the government wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

musixa · 23/05/2023 12:46

Dacadactyl · 23/05/2023 10:37

To a degree, yes. But it was the lengths people went to to be seen to comply that baffled me. They brought it on themselves to some extent. I mean, a society that "saves the old" to the detriment of the young is not a forward thinking one. And I think the government have deliberately orchestrated things because a compliant and reliant population suits them. And as others have said, SM was used to its fullest extent to demonise people like me who were questioning things.

If we'd all taken to the streets (I was at every protest going) the government wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

Mass non-compliance would have been impossible to police, but you have to factor in that people were genuinely frightened by the fact of the disease, even without the government messaging. We saw the news footage of overwhelmed hospitals in Italy; we knew that people were dying of this disease.

It's fine to say that saving the old might have been the wrong priority - but if it's you who is elderly or otherwise vulnerable, or your spouse, parent, grandparent etc. there is always going to be a fear factor and the instinct to shield.

Aslanplustwo · 23/05/2023 20:33

It's fine to say that saving the old might have been the wrong priority - but if it's you who is elderly or otherwise vulnerable, or your spouse, parent, grandparent etc. there is always going to be a fear factor and the instinct to shield.

Well said. My perfectly healthy DF got an extra three years of life due to the measures put in place to protect him. Posters like this have zero empathy, and I wonder how keen they would be to sacrifice themselves once they are old. Being elderly doesn't necessarily mean people are just sitting around hoping to die soon, many have a full and varied life, and those lives are no less precious than anyone else's.

Dacadactyl · 23/05/2023 20:39

@Aslanplustwo I have parents and also had a grandparent alive during covid. 3 of my very close family members had to shield (2 in their 60s and my nan at 90).

If i was old, i cant imagine id change my tune. IMO, kids shouldnt be put at risk of long term MH issues because of elderly people...no way, no how.

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