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A friend posted this…I agree

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Wheredowegonobodyknows · 20/05/2023 19:04

Does anyone else? Just feels different in the world, I can’t put my finger on exactly what or how

A friend posted this…I agree
OP posts:
ObviouslyNameChanged99 · 20/05/2023 21:27

Nah, everything is back to normal.

widowtwankywashroom · 20/05/2023 21:28

I think I live in a parallel universe, I have had a lovely day at a church fayre where they do so much for the local community, I gave a couple a lift to the train station as their car had broken down and they were going to a wedding.

Angrymum22 · 20/05/2023 21:34

Nope, I don’t agree, things are pretty much back to normal. I come across the odd person who hasn’t had the memo about masks being a waste of time but on the whole we are back to 2019 behaviour.
Everything’s more expensive and world travel is moving out of the reach of many people but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I’ve always been a closet green and quietly keep my carbon footprint as low as possible.
But the sun is shining and my DS is doing what teenagers are meant to do so hopefully the mental health issues he was developing from isolation from his tribe are in reverse. I have had a lovely day watching DS play cricket without having to use hand sanitiser every 10 overs or sanitise the ball. They were allowed to travel by coach without being segregated into year groups and DS could stop off for a pint with his mates before coming home without having to sit on a table for six.
The only thing that appears to have really changed is the demise of cash payments.

dogsanddolphines · 20/05/2023 21:35

You must be a complete idiot if you can't put your finger on 'why' or 'how'.

But also very young, Speak to the older generation and you'll realise how there's always something around the corner. The world never stands still. Things come and go in cycles,

Greenable · 20/05/2023 21:37

There are always turning points in history. Times when change speeds up and society seems to take a new direction. This has always happened and always will. Change creates tomorrow’s new normal.

MsRosley · 21/05/2023 00:09

Wheredowegonobodyknows · 20/05/2023 21:10

@MsRosley In what way? 😩

Well, without getting into any metaphysical stuff, the way social media is polarising people into distinct tribes and encourages cult-like behaviour is going to be very hard to reverse, and seems to be accelerating us into a post-truth society ie. people care much less about what is true and much more about what is acceptable to their self-designation peer group.

We're also facing an approaching tsunami of AI related bat-shittery, which wasn't really even on the horizon a year ago and is now approaching us with the force of a... well, tidal wave. And that is going to take off exponentially as AI becomes more effective at self correction, and possibly self replication.

May we live in interesting times!

MsRosley · 21/05/2023 00:10

self-designated not self-designation - typing too fast!

PixieLaLa · 21/05/2023 00:38

Totally agree!

Notaposhette · 21/05/2023 00:40

Don't thinkmits anything woo. Just that people seem flat and selfish.

ReturnoftheMuck · 21/05/2023 02:05

Collective trauma from both covid and the gaslighting from a shameful government who has done everything in it's power to silence the public and remove rights.

EmmaEmerald · 21/05/2023 02:11

ReturnoftheMuck · 21/05/2023 02:05

Collective trauma from both covid and the gaslighting from a shameful government who has done everything in it's power to silence the public and remove rights.

Yes, agree with the whole vibe thing
it's not strange given what we're up against thiugh.
Dominic Frisby blogged about how revolution is not really possible any more, which I think is a big factor in a new era.

EmmaEmerald · 21/05/2023 02:12

MsRosley "We're also facing an approaching tsunami of AI related bat-shittery, which wasn't really even on the horizon a year ago "

oh it was on the horizon for ages but even if you worked with it, people called you a conspiracy nut for mentioning it.

SargentSagittarius · 21/05/2023 02:19

I agree, OP.

But I can’t believe not one person has mentioned the actual cause of things. Not one person.

The internet and social media.

Now everyone with something to say, can say it.

Social media is 100% the cause of a decline in social cohesion.

It’s a real and present threat to democracy.

For the widespread (mis)use of violent porn.

It’s the reason for such poor mental health in young people (not to mention older people).

It’s the reason for the trans social contagion and therefore, of women’s rights being threatened in the most significant way it has been since feminism was invented.

Everything boils down to social media.

SargentSagittarius · 21/05/2023 02:28

Even the fact that we all knew what bloody Trump was doing and saying every damn day he was President, was down to social media.

SargentSagittarius · 21/05/2023 02:30

Apologies @MsRosley, I missed your post - yes!

coxesorangepippin · 21/05/2023 02:37

People definitely seem unmotivated

MistyGreenAndBlue · 21/05/2023 02:41

Well... the world (yes the ENTIRE world) IS moving into a new astrological age. May be already there. Opinions differ.

🎼 🎶 This is dawning of The Age Of Aquarius... 🎶

Make of that what you will.

NewBootsAndRanty · 21/05/2023 02:47

It's because bison.

Goodread1 · 21/05/2023 03:54

@Dacadactyl

Oh Lucky you and family !

Didn't experience misfortune of losing a family member like I did and many others.!

I think the hysteria about Covid and Lockdowns as you call it. !

Was the sheer scale magnitude of how widespread covid 19 was and obviously a pandemic, involves the Grimp Reaper too, !

Obviously covid is contagious ,spread ,in its nature, !

Two social Tabbo Subjects in our cultral society, have just touched on allready. !

Then you have Boris Johnson and his cronies ,
One of the very last actions the British Government did, was close the borders , airports for incoming traffic,
Why was that?

Yet Boris Johnsons father was seen in one of the uk leading popular newspaper enjoying himself on holiday abroad when lockdowns were happening, !

Why could he go abroad and others couldn't then?

I found it somewhat Surreal weird in the height of pandemic, yet I didn't see more ambulances and funeral cars, corteges, than in normal times, !

I don't believe in American style conspiracy theories, bullshit !

but I can totally understand why some people could start to think like that,

Same thing, mindset happens in other cultures, societies who don't have either up to date medical technologies to turn to or in the past, other times in history, when for example the bubonic plague happened there is evidence people became hysterical, believing for example wrath or upset God, because of humans sinful ways , this was reasoning why they were suffering the plague ect.

Also Boris Johnson and cronies having garden parties, and allowing high up football major league, mass fans football match to go ahead,
but families could meet in one small bubble and only allowing small weddings or small funerals ,case case covid spread obviously. !

No wonder cause general public had to abide by certain rules in regard of welfare of society ,but then certain Government MPs , broke their own covid safety rules, !

No wonder some people started to think, is there something else going on besides covid pandemic too,

Government mind control Orwell book /film wad visionary, considering what was going on...

Dacadactyl · 22/05/2023 20:43

@Goodread1 you seem to be disagreeing with me at the start of your post and agreeing with me at the end of it.

After about the first 6 weeks I thought that something was up; that we were being lied to and that, with an ageing population, it just didn't add up that the government were desperate to save 90 year olds from death. While every death is sad in it's own way, I don't believe the government give a fuck about us and I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.

You don't seem to trust them either.

Findyourneutralspace · 22/05/2023 20:46

I don’t believe in residual Covid trauma so much (for adults) but the effects of Brexit and the economy are hitting a lot of people hard. Teens lives have been massively disrupted at a crucial stage and many are ‘parenting the recovery’.
It’s hard, and it shows. 1997 it is not.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 22/05/2023 20:55

Yes things are always charging but the whole world has changed in a very short period of time - that is pretty unusual. Many people (and nations) have not worked out what to do in a post covid world. Across the globe there is very little motivation or inspiration.

Strange times.

waterlego · 22/05/2023 20:56

queenMab99 · 20/05/2023 20:17

It seemed to start before covid, with brexit and Donald Trump, 2015 /16, I thought it was just me because my husband died in 2015, and I kept thinking 'What would he have thought of this?' but then things just seemed to get stranger.

I relate to this somewhat. My parents died in 2013 both quite young, and I felt like the world shifted on its axis. Then followed a couple of years in which lots of great musicians and actors died, many somewhat prematurely (Bowie, George Michael, Prince etc) And then there was Brexit and Trump and Covid. And all the way along, I’ve kept thinking ‘What would Mum and Dad have made of this?’ Sometimes I feel like something weird and woo happened and have almost felt like I needed a religious faith (not something I have ever had or sought). But then I have a word with myself and remind myself that the world has always been chaotic and unpredictable and bad shit happens all the time.

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 22/05/2023 20:57

musixa · 20/05/2023 19:23

Things in the UK have generally got a bit more crap than they were before, but you don't have to look far for the causes of this.

Yep, this and agree!

Luredbyapomegranate · 22/05/2023 21:07

Well there’s been a global pandemic, we’re in a recession, there is a rise in nationalism all over, the wrecking of the planet is coming home to roost, climate change and mass migration are going to make life v tough for the next couple of generations, the Cold War has kicked off, we have war in Europe, the global balance of power is tipping from West to East. Plus AI and data mining is scary for jobs and privacy. For all it’s benefits the internet leads to polarisation see trans issues, incels etc. We are literally living in late stage capitalism. And in the case of the Uk, we have Brexit, we’ve run our public services into the ground, we have a chronic housing shortage, the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and corruption is more prevalent.

It would be weirder if it didn’t feel strange. Since WW2 we’ve been on a broadly upward path, and since before that each generation has been wealthier than the last. None of this is now the case. It doesn’t mean we won’t survive but no, life isn’t cosy or rosy and isn’t likely to be so.

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