Do people not make the effort with appearance anymore

[Scarletthoo2]

The last couple of months, I've noticed in restaurants, bars and social places that majority of women/young adults have replaced heels for trainers and dresses for jeans and dress pretty much causal when out socialising in bars or eating out. Is this the new norm? Why don't people make an effort anymore? Especially the younger generation. AIBU or is this a minority?

Heels are dated and awful for most things these days. I find them very uncomfortable after menopause. I can feel the bones in my left foot 'crunching'. I would wear heels for a wedding. Doubt I will go to one for years.There are many ways to dress in a put together way without squeezing my feet into heels.

entitled to my opinion they look scruffy.

I'm in my 40s and my feet are fucked because I spent my 20s in heels because that was fashionable then.

I'm glad my teenage nieces are wearing shoes that are comfortable and offer some support in. And crucially, and sadly, shoes that they can run in if they need to.

I love that fashion is more comfortable now and it's acceptable to 'slob about' in a hoody and joggers outside the house. I work for a corporate department in a very old fashioned employer and since lockdown it's all jeans and trainers to work even there. You need to get with the programme OP.

My dgd (21) thinks I am fabulously glamorous when I wear a nice dress and a pair of heels when we meet up for a family dinner. She dresses similar. I'm 66 and and my heels will only be removed from my cold dead feet.

@Peridot1 Happy birthday!

I think heels are very old fashioned. I might wear them to an important work event or a wedding but that's it. Flats all the way!

They don’t have to or need to. Simple.

I think it’s you who have deliberately misunderstood. Perhaps you could carefully reread the op - she says trainers and jeans rather than high heels. She does does not talk about people being dirty/wearing grubby or ripped clothing. So you are talking about an entirely different situation that you’ve made up.

@NewbieSoberista I can’t walk in heals in the height of summer so I’m somewhat impressed anyone can walk in them in winter! Out of curiosity, do you get much snow/ice there through winter? Where I stay even on the days where it looks mild you’re likely to hit a patch of black ice and fall on your arse, I’ve bruised my tailbone more times than I care to remember and that’s in trainers or winter boots

I gave up on heels years ago. Ankle boots look smart and are comfortable, and in the summer I wear sneakers. I don't own proper trainers, they don't go with my style. I do wear dresses and skirts because I find them comfortable, I hate jeans but have to wear them at work, so I don't wear them in my free time. I love make up, but do that in my own style and never wear foundation.

But anyway op, it’s probably just that you’re unfashionable or wearing dated/unfashionable. Maybe you should just make a bit more effort to keep up to date with the many currently popular sub fashions and you won’t be sitting wringing your hands because you just can’t understand why nobody at Wetherspoons is dressed in the specific style that you dress in.

Or just learn to MYOB. Nobody will care that you’re wearing whatever you’ve got on, so just stop getting worked up about what other people are wearing.

I think over the years (going back centuries in fact) fashion almost always gets more casual as the years pass. I think the lockdowns hastened this a bit. Men rarely wear ties now for instance. Edwardian style was less stuff than Victoria style and so it always goes.

When this trend concerns women wearing damaging heels I think it should be applauded.

I used to wear dresses and heels all of the time when going to the usual cattle market places in my late teens. Once I started to get into gigs, festivals and actual proper clubbing I just wanted to look cool rather than attractive. I dressed to be able to dance! Always wore trainers, flat boots or flip flops. Never got the whole Sex and the City manilos thing or the Towie thing where women made themselves look like sex androids.

I think the futuristic, androgynous, casual street or Boho look is quite sexy.

Because trainers are so much more comfortable than high heels & don't give you bunions after years of wearing them. Maybe the young girls are more sensible with their footwear than their grandmothers. I'm 57 & have given up the heels a long time ago & i love it. Give me a funky pair of trainers or pumps over heels with my dress any day of the week

Glad you mentioned it. I think it’s terrible and you see it everywhere these days. Looks slovenly and dreadful. How will they find themselves decent husbands with this approach?!?

Back in the real world l don’t see the problem. As others have said the high heels and overly done up look appears dated to me. What’s wrong with being comfortable?

I'll wear heels to restaurants if the men have to as well....

Are you a man ? No woman would ask this question surely?

I'll wear heels to restaurants if the men have to as well....

Fgs mind your own business. What a sad life to be wondering this instead of enjoying your outing. Not everyone has the money to buy fancy clothes and not only that they might just feel more comfortable in the clothes “they” have chosen to wear.

Meh, these things just go in roundabouts. Heels are out atm but they'll come back again. When I was raving in the 90's the girls all wore trainers and baggy jeans and 90's fashion is just having a resurgence (again).

I don't wear heels any more because I don't really go anywhere to wear them but if I had a wedding or formal event I'd wear heels - not skyscrapers though, a block heel is all I can manage nowadays.

I'm very glad if heels have gone out of fashion (I wouldn't know, I have neither worn then nor frequented the type of place they might be worn for years) and if women have the sense to wear clothes for comfort an not freeze half to death wearing little more than a "beer jacket".

It is the norm now and it’s sad. Everyone just walks around looking like a something out of a rap video, baggy tracksuit bottoms, big hoops and crop trops or baggy hoodies. Looks awful, no idea why everyone on here is defending it.

How sad that no one dresses up anymore, but I accept that I’m in the minority.

Uncomfortable shoes are a scam, that’s why.

I think it’s also dependant on where you live.

I live in Liverpool so of a weekend you’ll see gangs of women both locals and people here for the weekend out in heels so it feels the norm to me to get dressed up.

But at the same time my younger sister is 24 and although she doesn’t wear high heels she still looks really dressed up - has hair done and make up on.

But it’s completely personal preference and no one would be looked at funny for dressing in their own style.

This bothers me too. Nobody wears ties anymore. I work in a corporate environment. People are smart, but it is more casual-smart, so they might wear a skirt and polo neck but with ankle boots and a cardi,not heels and a jacket. I don't get why some schools think a blazer will suddenly make all of their kids pass their exams with a high grade.

Most of the time my child wears his PE kit into school as he has PE twice a week and an after school sport club. I don't get why you can't just have a smarter version of that.