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Chalk on sidewalk

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Berrydoor284 · 11/05/2023 23:44

Chalking on paths???

Ok please help me out.., so background normally I’m so laid back and I never bite to anyone even when I should mostly because I think we’ll you don’t know what’s going on in others lives. Or it’s their problem not mine and I just can’t be doing with drama I tend not to attract it or entertain it. i don’t have and never have had much drama in my life.

so my neighbour is in her 80s.. I have lived on this estate for my whole life. As have many families. Including mine. Mostly ex council houses.. my neighbour lived on this estate her whole life - you get the picture… when I was growing up she lived up the road from us - nice lady. It was a close estate. I brought my house and my old neighbours moved out and she moved in as it’s smaller than her old house. She has been here for 11 years I’ve been here 16. I got on great with old neighbours as I do the other side.

she is prone to be quite funny in my opinion or is it me?
so when my twins were toddling I’d sometimes put a small dog bowl on our shared wall and she would tell me not to. I didn’t ask why and just moved it (it’s a chihuahua size bowl may I add there for maybe an hour while they played on the patio area).

We needed new felt on our summer house roof so we asked if we could just nip over and put ladders up to do one side she got angry we disturbed her by knocking to ask (I understand that as she is old it’s not nice to be disturbed for some people she told us just to do it don’t bother her again) it rained that day so we went in but the next morning my dad just nipped over and she threatened to call the police for trespassing. My kids were distraught thought we were going to prison she was so mad. My dad is calm like me and explained why he didn’t ask and what she said the previous day and she just stormed in saying if you damage my grass you will pay. (It was step ladders, roof needed 14 small felt nails hammering in 15 min job).

she doesn’t like my kids playing ball games as the ball goes over it’s only the small sponge balls / tennis ball size that we have in the garden as we respect not many want 5 kids smashing big balls at a fence so we don’t do any ball games and haven’t for 6 years after the last go where she said she doesn’t want to see balls in her garden.

she isn’t happy with my kids play house as “I” as in me can’t get to
my side of the fence which she put up to paint it. But I did say on that occasion well sadly I’m not taking it down the fence has been painted and I don’t mind sliding it out to paint if you let me your side as I have no access but she said no to that.

she is constantly looking over the fence or getting people to look to make sure I don’t have rubbish behind the summer house rotting her fence ( I don’t the odd bit might blow there but I love my garden and clean it regular)..

she wasn’t happy I removed trellis which was on my side of the fence but her fence because it was rotten and became dangerous to my kids and looked a mess and would of doted the fence as I couldn’t get to the fence to paint it. The trellis was there when I brought the house and after a few years had to be removed - no damage to fence may I add).

my dad or kids dad or anyone actually can’t park near her house even though she has a drive no one can use even though she paid 10000s to have it laid and even though it isn’t blocking her drive.. but she says it’s her path ( it’s a public path). She actually called DVLA once when I had a works small transit for a job I was doing through an agency to say it’s blocking her drive when it honestly was nowhere near. She didn’t know it was my van so openly told my mum over the fence that she called because she couldn’t see up there street and said it was blocking her drive when it wasn’t I don’t think she knows to this date it was mine. I never said anything lol… just moved it to my dads round the corner legend the agency called lol.

she was constantly accusing me of putting nappies down my toilet baby wipes make up wipes ( I don’t wear make up don’t put anything down the toilet only tissue) she reported me to water people who came out dig up some of my garden to get to a man hole to discover I’m the last house on this system / pathway and yes there is blockages but it’s not me as it comes down the street and ends with me. I get the brunt of it.

she had a go because I laid a gravel bed near her front fence as it will effect her ground.. and flowers not sure how we have a fence between us.

she has asked to check if I have smoke alarms as if my house catches fire it will effect her.

doesnt want us using weed killer on my path it might effect her garden not sure how my drive is far away.

I could go on. genuinely I just normally do as she says.

i have five children and they may get a bit loud In the house but they are actually quite good kids. We are out most of the time at families houses on the estate. A bool
holidays we are 99% of the time away. I have dogs have had dogs since I moved in they aren’t yappers they might have the odd bark but it’s never persistent relentless constant and never has been.. In the garden we stick to her rules and we go to my dads for big ball games he lives round the corner as he has a big garden nice neighbours with a fence with gate between neighbours so we can nip in get balls etc if they go over. We just keep
ourselves to ourselves…

well tonight my kids were outside MY house chalking. Outside my house… nothing big, certainly nothing offensive. We had 2 xmas trees, hopscotch, naughts and crosses X2, a tardis and two houses.

she is a bit like a spider anyone only needs to go near her fence or house and she is in the window….. well she starts asking through the window what we are doing I hold the chalk up and try mouth chalking. She then gets angry she has to open the window and proceeds to say not outside my garden your not. I said I’m not. All with a smile.. she then says we’ll that tree is too close to my garden I’m calling the police. I think maybe the star topper might of been creeping over and may of been a boundary issue 🤔🤔🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ It might of been slightly over. Maybe the top bit of the star sis very slightly nearly meet the start of her fence area.. Now I don’t know if she was on the phone or pretending to be but next thing she is hanging out the window saying over the phone yes there are kids outside vandalising my garden then slams the window. I’ve had no
police round and I have a distraught 5 year old thinking she will be arrested, me not wanting to say she doesn’t own the path and showing my kids that she is being ridiculous as I do want them to respect elderly people so not sure how to play it?

my kids have chalked these things on the front of my house for years my eldest is 16 and she has since day dot as have my other 4 kids it’s nothing big or offensive or major in my eyes!! or is it?

now normally when she has a go outside of the painting fence issue and an Ariel issue where it fell down in lockdown and I couldn’t afford to get it removed but it turned out it was hers I apologise and do as she says. Tonight I didn’t I stayed out and I finished my naughts and crosses game and did a bit of hopscotch!! Coloured my house roof I had spent time creating 😂😂😂 I’m rebel!! and I feel quite bad like I’ve done something really naughty this is quite out there for me to not say sorry and stop what I’m doing… I don’t feel
comfortable and then I think I don’t feel
comfortable as I’m being unreasonable

is it a big thing chalking outside your own house?

i know we are all different I personally don’t care. My neighbours on the other side I have no idea what they are doing and not doing and as long as they aren’t setting our fence on fire especially because I buy that fence I see it as their life their garden leave them be and they are like that with me. I couldn’t care less what they do they have had parties and why shouldn’t they!? They can get loud now and then why shouldn’t they it’s not constant and they are just everyday people doing their own thing. I like seeing kids chalk it reminds me there is more to
life than technology I don’t watch tv we have Netflix in our house and that’s it and it’s the account where you only watch one at a time so not even used much. We do have the internet but not much technology so outside and outdoors is important to us.

i guess I’m just here to get others thoughts on this? As I’m not sure if I’m being unreasonable for being a bit fed up now and a bit angry or I’m being angry at myself for being a naughty kid by not going in when my neighbour rightly complained and I’m just one of them mums who thinks their kids can do what they want?
TIA and thanks for reading

OP posts:
GoodChat · 12/05/2023 14:13

It is genuinely hard to keep up with the lengthy posts. Details get lost and you begin to sound defensive (which starts to make people question why…)

Yet if someone doesn't post loads of information they get accused of drip feeding when they provide context

Nestpasenville · 12/05/2023 14:23

We travel a lot.

You certainly seen to have a lot of spare time 😀

I thought chalking on paths was going to be about something different. A suggestion to start highlighting dog mess on pavements with chalk to bring it to the attention of the offenders. They would then see it on subsequent walks. It would let them know it’s been noticed, and it would hopefully shame/ scare them in to clearing their mess up in future.

CamoFlamingo · 12/05/2023 14:26

Dustyourselfoff · 12/05/2023 14:01

we are literally never in

ok so you and all of us know that with 5 children from very young through to teens…. That this is BS (and if it was true… sounds shitty and destabilising for the children to never be home)

anyway back to my point… you are clearly one for massive exaggeration and hyperbole. So I suspect you have utterly distorted the picture against this woman in favour of you. When the reality is very very different.

you won’t be back. No doubt out in your front garden with a tinny, along with your partner, husband and other family estate Mafia, watching 3pf the 5 children chalk, whilst the teen plays music loudly and the tween kicks balls over the fence.

Probably. My old neighbours were like this. Drove me to the brink of insanity with their little dogs locked outside for hours on end yapping, kids screaming under my window on their trampoline, blazing rows that could be heard at the other end of the street, balls in my garden, drilling the shared wall at 9am, fly tipping, slamming doors...I could go on. Funnily enough their DC did chalk slightly on my path but I was fine with that as at least they were being quiet for once.

Isittimeformynapyet · 12/05/2023 14:58

"we are literally never in"

Playing fast and loose with the word "literally" here, OP.

"we are not the loudest house not a family stationed where they live much of anyone has ever had chihuahuas they are so much better in a two and as I now found a 3"

This makes no sense whatsoever. It's just a word soup.

I wouldn't normally mention this, but seeing as you made this error multiple times you might as well learn that the past tense of BUY is BOUGHT. You "bought" your house.

TheseThree · 12/05/2023 15:16

GoodChat · 12/05/2023 14:13

It is genuinely hard to keep up with the lengthy posts. Details get lost and you begin to sound defensive (which starts to make people question why…)

Yet if someone doesn't post loads of information they get accused of drip feeding when they provide context

Fair. It feels like there is a lot of drivel hiding the context though. Perhaps just a writing style thing, but I certainly haven’t encountered it much and I find it challenging.

GoodChat · 12/05/2023 16:22

@TheseThree agreed - it could be much more succinct!

SoTired12 · 12/05/2023 17:06

Dustyourselfoff · 12/05/2023 10:16

I suspect you and your faking think you “own” this estate.

I imagine that you’re all very intimidating to this lone elderly woman.

The more you type, the most sympathy i have with her

What a stupid thing to say.

The type of people who think they own the street couldn't give a fuck about their neighbours. They wouldn't be on here asking for advice.

I bet you're that type of neighbour, constantly in your window moaning for the sake of it.

Dustyourselfoff · 12/05/2023 17:24

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SoTired12 · 12/05/2023 17:55

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Why would the OP be on her front drinking "tinnies"? Because she lives on an estate? Because she has 5 children?

You're just outing yourself as a misery arse and a snob, what a catch you are 😂

How many times have you had to 'dust yourself off' and start again? I can't see many people wanting to stick around for long, it must draining having to deal with constant negative behaviour.

Reasonableadjustments · 12/05/2023 18:36

Wtf @Dustyourselfoff at enjoying some tinnies?

Not everyone who lives on an estate drinks beer out the front.

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Eustaciavile · 12/05/2023 19:10

Minfilia · 12/05/2023 08:18

As long as you are being considerate to noise levels, mess, and trespass - just ignore the rest!

and chalk a massive spunking cock under her window

How much of a sad bully must you be to suggest someone does this to an elderly person who clearly has some sort cognitive issue.
Grow up 🙄

Minfilia · 12/05/2023 19:14

Eustaciavile · 12/05/2023 19:10

How much of a sad bully must you be to suggest someone does this to an elderly person who clearly has some sort cognitive issue.
Grow up 🙄

Imagine being so much of an angry person that you can’t recognise a joke when you see one 🥲

How sad for you!

Murdoch1949 · 12/05/2023 22:13

You have been far too nice & accommodating to this neighbour. I'd just ignore any attempt at discourse at all. I love to see a hopscotch drawn out on the pavement, only mean spirited witches wouldn't.

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