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Manyanaish · 2023-05-11T15:25:15+00:00

Where we live businesses are sending fb messages to say that they are having to reduce opening hours due to lack of staff .. they are paying well above minimum wage ( £ 16 ph) , and are doing this to protect staff they have as they are pushed all the time. the businesses that are sating this locally to us did not rely on pre brexit conditions . So .. what is going on ?

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 13:52

Jellycatspyjamas · 12/05/2023 09:43

I'm afraid I don't have any answers. Those seem like intractable issues except for those earning £100k+

There aren’t any answers to be fair, there’s just an expectation that if your child has a disability there will be a non-working carer available at all times. There are so many parents of children with mild to moderate learning difficulties, learning disabilities, developmental delay etc who want to work but can’t because the infrastructure just isn’t there and so they remain on benefits indefinitely.

Tell that to DWP work coaches.

My friend has a teen with disabling MH issues and ASD. She is on ESA and has MH issues of her own, in addition to her caring responsibilities.

Despite the fact she is getting carer's allowance and cares for her son for more than 35 hours pw, she was summoned to the job centre for an interview and told that she will have to start preparing for work as soon as her son is 16. They seem to think that his PTSD, social phobia, crippling anxiety and depression will magically resolve themselves on his birthday. Twats.

He has been under CAMHS for 6 years without any meaningful input and has markedly deteriorated during that time. How the hell are people supposed to work if there is no help for their disabled kids?

Furiously · 13/05/2023 13:54

Thesharkradar · 13/05/2023 13:37

What about all the unpaid work which also contributes to society?

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Many men and the Tories couldn’t give a shit about society, women are expected to provide free child care and then free elderly care. From “Hags”:

“…Giles Fraser in UnHerd 2019 column recounted the experience of a male GP friend receiving a call from a desperate woman in her fifties:

Her elderly and confused father had soiled himself and she wanted to know if the surgery could send someone round to clean him up. “Did you have children?” my friend asked her. She did. He went on: ”When they were babies did you ever contact the state to see if it would come round to change their nappies?”. She went quiet. Ouch, what a question.”

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 13:55

luckylavender · 13/05/2023 13:33

@@jgw1 - to fund public services

So people like the Prime Minister and a former Chancellor who dodge taxes as much as they possibly can should be condemned then I presume?

Crikeyalmighty · 13/05/2023 14:28

@jgw1 I bet Florenz doesn't have an issue with high rollers wives who do indeed in plenty of cases do sod all paid work post kids. In fact often never work again. Basically insisting everyone does paid work only seems to be an issue with certain people if you aren't wealthy.

I do think we as a country need to concentrate on getting to grips with why plenty of relatively fit and able people who haven't got significant immediate family heavy caring duties are more than happy to do as little as possible and let the state fund the difference, but this comes down to affordable housing, jobs getting away with zero hours contracts, lots of part time casual work but not that much full time with good benefits etc and yes flexibility so people who aren't lucky enough to have good transport networks can still participate- ageism too- there are all kinds of things in the mix. If you were a lowish earner with not many prospects and were only going to be say £30 a week better off working, and not much to benefit your CV - I'm not that sure many of us wouldn't calculate it and think 'bollocks to that' I would rather make do.

I also think fully funded good quality before school , after school and holiday clubs would be a huge help.

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 14:35

Thesharkradar · 13/05/2023 13:08

Surely one reason so many people can't survive without benefits is the vastly inflated cost of housing 🤷

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Very true, @Thesharkradar . I did a benefit check for a couple with a joint income of £42k, 3 kids. Because their rent is so high, they get £700-800 a month in UC.

High rents are a massive issue, esp in London/SE. If they could get social housing, they wouldn't need a top-up to make their rent affordable and there would be a better incentive for them to earn more, as they wouldn't lose 55% of any extra net pay in reduced UC.

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 14:36

Crikeyalmighty · 13/05/2023 14:28

@jgw1 I bet Florenz doesn't have an issue with high rollers wives who do indeed in plenty of cases do sod all paid work post kids. In fact often never work again. Basically insisting everyone does paid work only seems to be an issue with certain people if you aren't wealthy.

I do think we as a country need to concentrate on getting to grips with why plenty of relatively fit and able people who haven't got significant immediate family heavy caring duties are more than happy to do as little as possible and let the state fund the difference, but this comes down to affordable housing, jobs getting away with zero hours contracts, lots of part time casual work but not that much full time with good benefits etc and yes flexibility so people who aren't lucky enough to have good transport networks can still participate- ageism too- there are all kinds of things in the mix. If you were a lowish earner with not many prospects and were only going to be say £30 a week better off working, and not much to benefit your CV - I'm not that sure many of us wouldn't calculate it and think 'bollocks to that' I would rather make do.

I also think fully funded good quality before school , after school and holiday clubs would be a huge help.

Has the notion that everyone should work actually contributed to the creation of low paid jobs. Surely with fewer workers employers would have to pay more.
In fact given that we are all supposed to believe in market forces, why at a time of lack of supply of labour are people facing pay cuts?

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 14:37

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 14:35

Very true, @Thesharkradar . I did a benefit check for a couple with a joint income of £42k, 3 kids. Because their rent is so high, they get £700-800 a month in UC.

High rents are a massive issue, esp in London/SE. If they could get social housing, they wouldn't need a top-up to make their rent affordable and there would be a better incentive for them to earn more, as they wouldn't lose 55% of any extra net pay in reduced UC.

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But it is important for the economy and our mates to ensure that those who are landlords and therefore already richer than they need to be are further enriched.

pointythings · 13/05/2023 14:38

If you want people to work, you have to make work pay. Two people on NMW should be able to afford housing, food and transport. We're nowhere near that.

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 14:39

Babyroobs · 11/05/2023 19:41

I was asked to help with some interviewing last week and not one candidate turned up ! We have re-advertised and no suitable candidates are applying. It's dire. Managers are literally begging colleagues to ask family and friends if they know anyone suitable !

My employer pays staff a £300 bonus if they introduce someone who takes a job with them!

Crikeyalmighty · 13/05/2023 14:41

@jgw1 Ha- some lovely cheeky tongue in cheek posts from you recently - on the nail though !! I do wonder if some might think you mean it!

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 14:47

ThisOldThang · 11/05/2023 20:37

It seems to me that Brexit is resulting in a more Scandinavian society.

Labour shortages are causing wages to rise. That will push up the price of goods and services to pay those wages and wage inequality will fall.

For example, cleaners won't be paid minimum wages anymore, because they won't be able to find anybody that will do the job for minimum wage.

I expect Britain will become a nation of the £10 pint and cleaners earning £40k.

With regards to benefits, they're clearly too generous in terms of allowing perfectly healthy people to fake invisible illnesses (long covid, depression, etc) and opt for a comfortable life of idleness. How we address the shirkers, without impacting the genuinely ill, really is the question.

You plainly have no idea how difficult it is to get through the work capability or PIP assessment and get the benefits you're entitled to.

If getting ill-health benefits was easy, I wouldn't have 100% success rate at appeal tribunals. People with perfectly valid claims are turned down because the govt know that most of them won't appeal (especially difficult, since they cut funding for welfare rights work as part of their "austerity" programme). Overall, the success rate is 70%.

There will always be a few people who play the system, any system (including the tax system), but the number of people getting disability benefits by faking is vanishingly small imo.

Florenz · 13/05/2023 15:01

"but the number of people getting disability benefits by faking is vanishingly small imo."
As it should be. The fact that it's getting smaller is a GOOD thing, no?

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 15:08

Crikeyalmighty · 13/05/2023 14:41

@jgw1 Ha- some lovely cheeky tongue in cheek posts from you recently - on the nail though !! I do wonder if some might think you mean it!

Someone means else could have written in good faith every post I write.

The reason there are so many job vacancies is because Keir doesn't know what a woman is.

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 15:09

Florenz · 13/05/2023 15:01

"but the number of people getting disability benefits by faking is vanishingly small imo."
As it should be. The fact that it's getting smaller is a GOOD thing, no?

Should we be worried that the number of government ministers and the size of the deals in giving money to their mates, or in one recent example your wife's company is getting larger and costing the country far more than benefit fraud?

Babyroobs · 13/05/2023 15:21

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 14:39

My employer pays staff a £300 bonus if they introduce someone who takes a job with them!

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Crazy isn't it ! Don't think my employer ( charity ) can even afford to offer that at the moment !

SunnyEgg · 13/05/2023 15:21

I’m sure Labour have all the answers. Some Nom Dom money will fix it

Maybe they will, and Keir is the answer. If higher earners debunk thought it might be less fun for the rest who can’t do the same.

PinkCherryBlossoms · 13/05/2023 15:21

Florenz · 13/05/2023 15:01

"but the number of people getting disability benefits by faking is vanishingly small imo."
As it should be. The fact that it's getting smaller is a GOOD thing, no?

That rather depends on how many disabled people in need of support there are. Impossible to make a value judgement on whether its a good thing without that information.

pointythings · 13/05/2023 15:31

@PinkCherryBlossoms I reckon there are a lot of people who would be entitled to support who are not claiming it because they are too afraid of the process.

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 15:33

3BSHKATS · 13/05/2023 11:48

@mrsnec I worked as a job coach during the pandemic, most of my colleagues were teachers, no training in job coaching whatsoever. Take their advice with a pinch of salt.
Take the role that works for you and the children. I was required to discuss increasing hours with claimants, they called in, I said can you increase your hours, they said no i havent got childcare, i wrote it down. End of conversation. Once you are in some kind of job they back right off, you will be treated a lot better. It's absolute luck of the draw who you end up with.

It's nice to hear that. A client of mine was so traumatised by a work coach that he ended up being admitted to a psych unit.

He'd been submitting FIT notes, and had had his work capability assessment, but was awaiting the decision. As well as his MH issues (he was under the assessment and treatment team), he appeared to have a mild learning disability and his literacy was extremely poor. The work coach had him going in for appts weekly, and expected him to give written evidence of jobs he'd applied for. As he could barely write, this was rather difficult. The WC kept telling him that his benefits would be cut or stopped if he didn't apply for jobs, and he was so frightened that he had a total breakdown. And he was living in a hostel, because he was homeless; his previous job had been a live-in one.

While he was in hospital, he got the work capability decision: limited capability for work and work-related activity. God knows what the work coach was thinking when they were hassling him to get a job. I really feared he was going to end up as one of the "death by welfare" stats.

We've asked the partnership manager to look at the way he was treated, but I haven't heard any outcome yet.

Greenfairydust · 13/05/2023 16:19

@Florenz
"Choosing to not work" should not be a viable option. Everyone should work.''

Sigh...

I think you will find that society could not function if it wasn't for all the unpaid carers who are not in employment but who look after elderly relatives, disabled children and adults and so on.

Also can you explain to me how someone who is physically and/or mentally disabled or who might have a long term health condition who severely affects their daily life is suddenly going to be able to go to work just because you say so? quite a the little miracle here that you are able to perform...

There always will be people who can't work for very good reasons.

Stop buying the Daily Mail rhetoric that the majority of people who receive benefits are work-shy scroungers.

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 16:25

Greenfairydust · 13/05/2023 16:19

@Florenz
"Choosing to not work" should not be a viable option. Everyone should work.''

Sigh...

I think you will find that society could not function if it wasn't for all the unpaid carers who are not in employment but who look after elderly relatives, disabled children and adults and so on.

Also can you explain to me how someone who is physically and/or mentally disabled or who might have a long term health condition who severely affects their daily life is suddenly going to be able to go to work just because you say so? quite a the little miracle here that you are able to perform...

There always will be people who can't work for very good reasons.

Stop buying the Daily Mail rhetoric that the majority of people who receive benefits are work-shy scroungers.

There are some who recieve substantial benefits who are work shy scroungers, take a look at any one of a number of Tory MPs, BJ to the fore, who enjoy their subsidised food in the Houses of Parliament, but do very little work.

PinkCherryBlossoms · 13/05/2023 16:38

Yeah but I actually prefer Johnson not working. If he did more, he'd be a greater danger.

ThisOldThang · 13/05/2023 16:49

LakieLady · 13/05/2023 14:39

My employer pays staff a £300 bonus if they introduce someone who takes a job with them!

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My department has been sending out emails offering £3k for referrals.

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London
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Thesharkradar · 13/05/2023 17:20

society could not function if it wasn't for all the unpaid carers who are not in employment but who look after elderly relatives, disabled children and adults and so on
I agree with this, but I want to add that unpaid work is still work, it still contributes to the functioning of society but tends to be hidden and easy to dismiss .....because it's unpaid!

jgw1 · 13/05/2023 17:40

Thesharkradar · 13/05/2023 17:20

society could not function if it wasn't for all the unpaid carers who are not in employment but who look after elderly relatives, disabled children and adults and so on
I agree with this, but I want to add that unpaid work is still work, it still contributes to the functioning of society but tends to be hidden and easy to dismiss .....because it's unpaid!

The thing with unpaid work is that it is unpaid and so does not contribute to GDP. Far better for someone to go out to work and earn enough to put whoever they were caring for in day care. That way both the carer who is now working and the carer they employ to do the caring they did previously contribute to GDP and the treasury boffins are happy.
The same with cleaners, cleaning your own house instead of paying someone to do it, reduces GDP and so should really be banned. If you want you can clean your neighbours house and pay them £10 a time and they can clean yours for £10 a time, and everyone is happy.