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Well, I hated the coronation…

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TheColourofspring · 07/05/2023 06:02

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

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SchoolTripDrama · 08/05/2023 14:21

Meggymoo777 · 07/05/2023 07:01

Totally with you OP. I'm not from the UK but saw some of the coverage over the last few days. If my government spent £100m on an event like this while people are starving, struggling to hear their houses (if they're lucky enough to have houses with homelessness through the roof) there would be protests on the streets. So distasteful and it baffles me that the British public go along with this and even celebrate it. But hey, I'm not British so who am I to comment 💁🏻‍♀️

Try £250m!

PrettyMaybug · 08/05/2023 14:23

@Barnbrack · Today 12:47

Why does your right to watch an uninterrupted coronation trump the rights of those who wish to protest the event itself to the point their rights are literally policed?

You have posted some stupid, and farcical, and plain rude posts on this thread, but this one takes the biscuit.

Yes, the public's right to enjoy the Coronation DID trump the rights of the farty little irritants trying to derail it, because HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people all over the world, wanted to watch it/did watch it. The piffling amount of people who resent the Royals, (and the Coronation,) are miniscule in comparison.

The vast majority of the British public support the Royals, OR they are ambivalent. (As you are hard of thinking - ambivalent means they don't give a shit either way.) Very few are real anti Royalists, and even fewer will protest, and rant and scream like angry toddlers.

So YES the right to an enjoyable and trouble-free Coronation DID trump the 'rights' of the TINY MINORITY of arsehats who wanted to spoil it. How DARE you assume your rights to wreck such an important, historic, significant event for society, should trump the rights of the people who wanted to watch it, trouble-free. The hundreds of millions all over the world, (including tens of millions in the UK.) Who the hell do you think you are?

As for your sarcastic and demeaning remark to @Emotionalstorm who said her young daughter loved it all, shame on you. You anti-Royalists are not only rather irksome, but are also very unpleasant.

Mirabai · 08/05/2023 14:25

DownNative · 08/05/2023 13:53

We are a Representative Democracy and NOT a Direct Democracy, so the Taxpayer has zero say in how the nation spends its money.

Allowing them to do so would be chaotic. Some would choose to not fund the British Armed Forces which we need. Others might refuse to fund schools. And so on.

No, our elected Government and representatives in Parliament decide all that. That is democracy in action.

The only time we're a Direct Democracy is when we have a referendum on a single issue. These are not regular.

I literally described the representative democratic process in the post you’re replying to. It’s really odd that you think a representative democracy means the taxpayer has zero say where its money goes. This passivity is nothing to do with the type of democracy and everything to do with the politically unengaged mindset of the British.

The French for example are far more politically engaged and they would disagree entirely. If they don’t like something they strike.

Mirabai · 08/05/2023 14:26

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 14:15

I’m just explaining how democracy works

Thank you. I’ve known that for over 50 years so you could have saved your oversimplified and patronising explanation.

Tongue in cheek Bloss.

inamarina · 08/05/2023 14:31

Wishawisha · 08/05/2023 13:10

That’s what I think about all the gold and jewels. It’s hardly like the country has purchased a tonne of gold for the coronation. They can’t really do anything with it all anyway if they want to - and most of the time it’s on display to the nation (Tower of London and other places) also bringing in tourist money.

Most of the money spent was on security and that’s what it is. I didn’t see a huge display of wealth this weekend as such, it just seemed more like a live touring production of a museum exhibition or history lesson. The stuff they wore and paraded around all existed last week too.. but that was ok because it wasn’t on TV?

That’s how I see it too. It’s not like they can just sell some of it and buy themselves a nice yacht or a small remote island instead.

Gtsr443 · 08/05/2023 14:34

The French for example are far more politically engaged and they would disagree entirely. If they don’t like something they strike.

Ah yes the French.
Last year the French came close to electing a fascist president and the far right secured their highest number of seats in the Assembly.

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 14:35

PrettyMaybug · 08/05/2023 10:21

@AbreathofFrenchair

There won't be a "conversation" because for some reason, its super fashionable to hate the royal family and to blame them for all the wrongs in the UK from lack of food and heating to the disaster that is the NHS.

What people like the OP want is an echo chamber where you can project your thoughts as they are facts. Anyone that offers an explanation is shot down and told how they are supporting something outdated. You aren't prepared to listen or accept other opinions - so stop insisting "conversations" need to happen.

As for 'lots of people are not interested,' there's an awful lots of posts discussing it and desperate people commenting on how much they hate it etc. It's boring! Stop trying to be edgy and ignore it (like any normal person would who doesn't care about it.) It doesn't make you interesting.

And don't even get me started on people who insist they aren't interested and then go on to pretend they didn't know the Coronation was Saturday, as I've seen on posts on here. The whole world knows when it was, stop pretending it never made the news in Twickenham. 🤣

100% this. Brilliant post!

I have noticed something else over the past few weeks too... on all the Coronation bulletins on TV, and at the big Coronation Party I went to yesterday AND in the crowds around Buckingham Palace... There were 1000s and 1000s of people who were Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, and other faiths (other than Christian,) along with many black people, Hispanic, and Asian/South East Asian etc, who LOVE the Royal Family, and were tremendously excited about seeing them, and about the celebrations, and the whole kit and caboodle.

99% of the people who hate on them and come out with all the usual boring #notmyking shite do NOT fit any of those descriptions, and are all exactly the same type of people. The same ones who come out with 'people who voted for Brexit are racist gammon' and 'all boomers are scum who ruined the lives of the young,' and 'all people who vote Tory are thick bigoted c*nts.'

They're on every thread like this, dripping their poison and bile and vitriol, nag nag nagging and goading, and trying to get a rise out of people. What they don't realise is that we're laughing at them, and don't give a SHIT about their opinions. We also know the Royal Family is not going anywhere. They're here to stay. The haters, and their nasty vitriolic views are in a minority in this country.

I absolutely LOVED how the police dealt with the Anti-Royal Family protesters, when they were trying to protest at the Coronation. Kept them well out of sight and arrested them. Hilarious. Grin They didn't get the screen time and the TV gold moment they wanted. They only went down in history as people nobody knew or cared about. No-one even knows the names of ANY of them, and no-one cares! LOL. 😆(I saw them many hours after the Coronation by the way, on the news, being arrested by police earlier that day, they did NOT get any screen time during the Coronation, and as I said, no-one knows their names!)

THIS is what the goady, over privileged, left-wing, Royal family haters, look like. Definitely a running theme there Wink

‘What they don't realise is that we're laughing at them, and don't give a SHIT about their opinions’

Your long, over-excited, shouty and childish post suggests you do care quite a lot. The republicans have got under your skin I see.

Coxspurplepippin · 08/05/2023 14:39

Meggymoo777, where are you from?

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 14:41

PrettyMaybug · 08/05/2023 14:23

@Barnbrack · Today 12:47

Why does your right to watch an uninterrupted coronation trump the rights of those who wish to protest the event itself to the point their rights are literally policed?

You have posted some stupid, and farcical, and plain rude posts on this thread, but this one takes the biscuit.

Yes, the public's right to enjoy the Coronation DID trump the rights of the farty little irritants trying to derail it, because HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people all over the world, wanted to watch it/did watch it. The piffling amount of people who resent the Royals, (and the Coronation,) are miniscule in comparison.

The vast majority of the British public support the Royals, OR they are ambivalent. (As you are hard of thinking - ambivalent means they don't give a shit either way.) Very few are real anti Royalists, and even fewer will protest, and rant and scream like angry toddlers.

So YES the right to an enjoyable and trouble-free Coronation DID trump the 'rights' of the TINY MINORITY of arsehats who wanted to spoil it. How DARE you assume your rights to wreck such an important, historic, significant event for society, should trump the rights of the people who wanted to watch it, trouble-free. The hundreds of millions all over the world, (including tens of millions in the UK.) Who the hell do you think you are?

As for your sarcastic and demeaning remark to @Emotionalstorm who said her young daughter loved it all, shame on you. You anti-Royalists are not only rather irksome, but are also very unpleasant.

‘The piffling amount of people who resent the Royals, (and the Coronation,) are miniscule in comparison.

The vast majority of the British public support the Royals, OR they are ambivalent. (As you are hard of thinking - ambivalent means they don't give a shit either way.) Very few are real anti Royalists, and even fewer will protest, and rant and scream like angry toddlers.’

You are posting like an angry and shouty teen. Perhaps tone it down a bit if you want to make your posts sound a bit more intelligent.

And as you are hard of spelling, the correct word is ‘minuscule’.

Mirabai · 08/05/2023 14:48

Gtsr443 · 08/05/2023 14:34

The French for example are far more politically engaged and they would disagree entirely. If they don’t like something they strike.

Ah yes the French.
Last year the French came close to electing a fascist president and the far right secured their highest number of seats in the Assembly.

Whereas our hard right have been in power since 2016.

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 14:51

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 14:44

And as you are hard of spelling, the correct word is ‘minuscule’.

I think you’ll find either way is correct.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/minuscule-or-miniscule/#:~:text=Minuscule%20means%20very%20small.,variant%20spelling%20in%20some%20dictionaries.

Well some words have been misspelled for so long that they are now tolerated. Doesn’t mean it is actually correct. I somehow doubt that that poster even knew there was a correct version.

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 14:57

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 14:51

Well some words have been misspelled for so long that they are now tolerated. Doesn’t mean it is actually correct. I somehow doubt that that poster even knew there was a correct version.

I’ve supplied a link to show it’s correct. She used a version which is as correct as yours. It’s also the version I use and no academic has ever picked me up on it. 🤷‍♀️

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 15:00

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 14:57

I’ve supplied a link to show it’s correct. She used a version which is as correct as yours. It’s also the version I use and no academic has ever picked me up on it. 🤷‍♀️

Lots of teachers ignore SPAG errors these days. I am sure your ‘academics’ just ignore your mistakes.

NewMarmalade · 08/05/2023 15:00

The Royal Family are a pretty thick bunch. Has anyone noticed that their fans are too?

I acknowledge that it is just my ‘anecdata’ but the most intelligent people I know are not RF fans and the people I know who are most excitable about the coronation are not that bright. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Blossomtoes · 08/05/2023 15:02

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 15:00

Lots of teachers ignore SPAG errors these days. I am sure your ‘academics’ just ignore your mistakes.

I’m pretty sure my MA tutor didn’t ignore anything.

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 08/05/2023 15:07

WorldOutThere · 08/05/2023 15:00

Lots of teachers ignore SPAG errors these days. I am sure your ‘academics’ just ignore your mistakes.

Both are perfectly correct.

Miniscule is the more modern spelling.

The newer spelling has been considered perfectly correct since the late 1800s.

No English teacher (or anyone else who knows anything about the language) would say a perfectly correct variant is wrong. Hopefully. Mind you, they'd make themselves look a bit of a twat if they did, so then again ...

notimagain · 08/05/2023 15:21

@Gtsr443

Last year the French came close to electing a fascist president

Having got that off your chest you might want to have look at Rassemblement National's / Marine Le Pen's manifesto and do a "compare and contrast" with the UK Tory Party's current offerings....or in other words what @Mirabai said.

Just to avoid any element of doubt that doesn't mean I trust or would vote for Le Pen.

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 15:22

NewMarmalade · 08/05/2023 15:00

The Royal Family are a pretty thick bunch. Has anyone noticed that their fans are too?

I acknowledge that it is just my ‘anecdata’ but the most intelligent people I know are not RF fans and the people I know who are most excitable about the coronation are not that bright. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Are you the latest member of the Sussex 'royal' fan club?

drpet49 · 08/05/2023 15:25

kitsuneghost · 08/05/2023 13:40

I totally think we should get rid of them and give the £3 a year back to each household. This wiilll make a huge difference and ensure every household can afford a meal.

Yep this 🤣

Coxspurplepippin · 08/05/2023 15:29

NewMarmalade · 08/05/2023 15:00

The Royal Family are a pretty thick bunch. Has anyone noticed that their fans are too?

I acknowledge that it is just my ‘anecdata’ but the most intelligent people I know are not RF fans and the people I know who are most excitable about the coronation are not that bright. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@AskMeMore, apologies for @ you, not something I like doing, but further our 'conversation' a couple of days ago regarding denigrating language used about people who like having a monarchy, this one's a doozy.

SerafinasGoose · 08/05/2023 15:32

TheyIndeed · 07/05/2023 06:19

I'm with you OP. It was unpleasant and made me long for us to have a republic for the first time.

I don't think there'll be a national "conversation" though, there's a lot of ingrained love for it all for some reason 🤷‍♀️

I would question that.

The vox pop on the www is telling quite a different story, not matter how much the MSM spins it otherwise.

That is not to say there's no support for the institution; of course there is. But there is also opposition. Quite a lot of it. And it's growing.

1dayatatime · 08/05/2023 15:32

@WorldOutThere

"Your long, over-excited, shouty and childish post suggests you do care quite a lot. The republicans have got under your skin I see."

++++

This post simply shows that the protests are not so much about the legitimate argument of republicanism and more about trying to appear to be edgy anti establishment "rebels" just aiming to piss people off or "get under their skin" rather than structure a logical political argument.

I genuinely believe that had there been a major event celebrating say England winning the World Cup or whatever then the same types would still be seeking to protest. It's quite sad really.

DownNative · 08/05/2023 15:49

Mirabai · 08/05/2023 14:25

I literally described the representative democratic process in the post you’re replying to. It’s really odd that you think a representative democracy means the taxpayer has zero say where its money goes. This passivity is nothing to do with the type of democracy and everything to do with the politically unengaged mindset of the British.

The French for example are far more politically engaged and they would disagree entirely. If they don’t like something they strike.

No, you didn't. What you did was misrepresent the type of democracy we actually are.

And posted something about party manifestos that doesn't correspond with reality. These are NOT binding since they're merely pledges.

The fact of the matter is that each individual Taxpayer does NOT dictate where their own tax funds goes.

Our elected representatives all agree it is they and Government who decide that.

France has yet to have a Representative Democracy that actually works smoothly for them. They're on their fourteenth version of it.

Again, in France it is their elected representatives who decide where their taxes go. Not each French Taxpayer.

Indeed, the French protesters lost in their demands and the French Government succeeded. Rioting, looting and vandalism in Paris will not get the protesters what they want. And we're NOT about to copy the French either - the 1968 French riots helped light the paper that became the Northern Ireland Troubles. Great Britain saw some riots too, but dampened down soon after.

Violence always holds back society, believe me. And Violence is NOT democratic.

It's plain for all to see that you don't really understand what democracy actually means.

At the end of the day, democratic Governments all decide how to spend taxes. The electorate can make their views heard, but this affords no right to formally decide to withhold funding from the Monarchy, Armed Forces, schools, foreign aid, etc. That right belongs to Governments and Parliaments everywhere.

DownNative · 08/05/2023 15:55

Mirabai · 08/05/2023 14:48

Whereas our hard right have been in power since 2016.

We have no hard right party in power in the UK at all.

The fact we elect Labour and the Conservatives to government means smaller extreme left and right parties are excluded from Government.

Your statement shows a critical misunderstanding of British politics. Maybe deliberately in order to muddy the waters and poison the well of debate.

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