Well, I hated the coronation…

[TheColourofspring]

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

Are you seriously suggesting that people who use food banks are not actually poor?

I had someone yesterday say that the CoL was affecting very few people, and the only reason we know about it was because they keep on about it and are vocal.

I had to walk away.

I just find it weird that you're complaining about the Coronation which actually brings in revenue as well as costing money (£200 million assessed from tourism alone) when Covid cost £261 billion, much of which was wasted.

https://shorttermrentalz.com/news/coronation-king-charles-tourism-boost-uk/#:~:text=With%20an%20extra%2030%2C000%2B%20overseas,and%20short%2Dterm%20rental%20accommodation.

Take two Tories who benefitted: Michelle Mone's company got £200 million in PPE contracts and she personally benefited from the deal to the tune of £29 million. That's one person! None of that would go back to the British economy as she is resident in the Isle of Man which has 0% tax on company profits. Even if the company isn't registered there, personal taxation is very low there and no taxation would benefit the UK in any case. The contracts were brokered in Hong Kong so nothing was manufactured here either, so again no benefit to the UK economy, unlike the Coronation where many businesses benefited.

Meanwhile Matt Hancock sister's company benefited from government contracts and he personally has a stake in that company while health Secretary.

Those are real scandals. Those are actually taking food from people's mouths. And only benefiting individuals, not the wider public.

You can of course complain about both but it seems disproportionate when so much more is wasted by this government every single day.

The Royal family do cost a lot of money, it's true, but they also do a lot of work that benefits many of the British public in terms of mental health charities, the Prince's Trust, the education charity, the Prince's foundation, Save the Children, military charities and countless others. What does Boris Johnson do or Jacob Rees Mogg that benefits the British public (the latter basing his company in Ireland to reduce his tax burden).

Taking the focus away from these things without balancing this with how the Royal Family benefits this country seems to miss the real point about what we really need to change to make things better for everyone.

I saw that too @Roussette

I do wonder who is actually on these threads sometimes

No! I'm suggesting that food banks aren't a marker of overall poverty!

I mean yes they’re priceless items, but they are hundreds of years old. It’s not like we’ve just bought them.

As for the event, yes it was expensive, but we’ve had a paid day off work (the majority have, anyway). If they divided the cost of the coronation up between the 70million people in the UK, we’d get pence each. I’ll take the bank holiday thanks. All things considered I’m not too bothered by it.

Culturally and historically the monarchy is unique and people around the world are interested. It would be a loss to more than the UK if we were to get rid of it. We’d be a bit upset if the Egyptians decided to demolish the pyramids.

I have always found the royal family irrelevant. They mean nothing to me. I don’t hate them, they just exist in the background.

The hype around the queen’s death annoyed me though. All this stuff about ‘serving us’ pissed me off. She had done nothing for me at all in her life. She seemed like a cold fish and I was baffled by this debt of gratitude I apparently owed her.

I don’t care that this man was crowned. But I am not sure it needed to be quite so ostentatious. I would have preferred a coronation-lite.

My 17y was not interested one bit. Neither were her friends. Hopefully the apathy will continue.

It might be my perimenopausal hormones but I do have a soft spot for George, Charlotte and Louis. Real cuties!

I would have preferred a coronation-lite.

It was a coronation-lite!

Agree that it's obscene.

I find the idea of 'royal blood' and the idea of inherited nobility offensive and an affront to equality. When you start thinking about it, the concept of inherited nobility is not that far from the concept of racism - both stipulate that one person is better than another due to parentage/ genetics.

My 17y was not interested one bit. Neither were her friends. Hopefully the apathy will continue.

Was that because it was a boring old man being crowned? Would their attitude have been different had it been William and Kate being crowned?

OP, you are not wrong.
This is all wrong. The history behind it, the message it sends.
Im native to a country with extreme poverty and out leaders live a life of luxury while millions starve. The leader and his family own so much land it’s ridiculous.
One of the bigggest diamonds in the world which is native to South Africa was a feature of yesterday “show”. Did anyone who wanted it with their children discuss this? The fact that this country has stole and is refusing to give back this they know are not rightfully theirs. Someone up thread mentioned the Duchy of Cornwall what what it could potentially do for the people of Cornwall.
Gready People
I didn’t watch it.
my child will have a tea at school on Tuesday to celebrate the coronation. She’s only little bit as she grows older, I will discuss the crimes which were committed and it is then up to her to make her choices and form her own options.
yes, humans are all the same however, and as we can clearly see, some have get abused for being for being born in the wrong place, wrong time while other get special treatment for being born in the right place at the right time.
if indeed we were all the same, there wouldn’t be extreme poverty nor extreme wealth. But anyways, all poor people are just lazy and everyone has the same 24 hours in a day 😒
people know, they just don’t care as it’s too unsavoury to accept that any mistakes where made in the history of humanity.

Charles has more about him than Wiliam ever will and that's from a Republican !

As for the FOOD BANKS map, posted at 11.12am.... Gosh that IS a lot of food banks. If only they hadn't spent £100 BILLION on HS2 and almost £40 BILLION on Track and Trace... Imagine how much money would have been saved to help the poor and needy, and how much more money could have gone into the NHS, and schools, and GP Practices etc.

Seriously! Anyone who posts a picture of a food bank map trying to imply 'ooh we need all these food banks because of what they spent on the Coronation' is utterly deluded and incredibly hard of thinking.

The Coronation cost £100 million. 1000 times LESS than HS2. And 400 times LESS than Track and Trace. And as has been said, it will net WAY more £££ than it cost to produce! PMSL at anyone thinking the 'cost of the Coronation' is anything to do with all the food banks. Are people THAT deluded and hard of thinking????? 😆

Also agree with a pp that whilst some people are on the bones of their arse in this country, and do need food banks, there are some who use them that don't need to. I really believe it's poor budgeting with some people.

@Spirographcity Absolutely excellent post (at 11.29am.) The anti-Royalists don't like to hear actual bona fide facts and figures though, they get in the way of their ranting and frothing about the Royal Family, and their hatred for them.

I mean why let FACTS get in the way of a good angry frothy rant?!!! 😆

I'm off now to a lovely Street Party to celebrate the CORONATION, and the sun is shining brightly here, and it's 16 degrees C.

Have a lovely afternoon haterz. (And the non-haters of course!)

Do you feel the same way when you watch the MET Gala and other such events?

If the King is claiming to be Defender of Faiths, shouldn’t the service have included readings from the Qur’an, Talmud, Hindu and Sikh scriptures by representatives of those faiths?

A Hindu doing a Bible reading was a bit bizarre.

No because I don’t pay for them and they don’t usually have an overt family of sex-offender apologists front and centre

Health and Safety would not allow anymore in the Cathedral. The service was shorter yes, but they will know it would've bored even the most ardent Royalist.

The rest was just as ostentatious. Although no silk breeches. they would've been mocked.

The tories love all this division. It stops people blaming the real people to blame. THEM

Only among those unable to think of more than one issue at a time ...

@Justwonderinghow
Great post.

According to the Washington Post, the coronation cost €125million. Biden’s inauguration cost €100 million for a lot less of a show and that’s every 4 years.
Even if we got rid of the Royal Family there would probably still be very high expense.

Did you really just say that people objecting to tax payer money being spent on this shit when people are starving was upsetting, because it spoiled the FUN. Wow. I’ll tell you what’s exhausting, living in poverty. Not having to see other people’s distaste online.

The US's GDP is $24 trillion

Ours is $3 trillion

Slightly different. And who says's we have to do it like the US? It could be low key. No reason why not.

I'm with you OP

I'm astonished that some people genuinely think this is about personal jealously, rather than an understandable political anger about the huge disparity of wealth and power that exists in this country and is perpetuated by the concept of hereditary monarchy.

Did you really just say that people objecting to tax payer money being spent on this shit when people are starving was upsetting, because it spoiled the FUN. Wow. I’ll tell you what’s exhausting, living in poverty. Not having to see other people’s distaste online

@TheOriginalEmu seems to be some general snotty grim attitudes about poor people on this thread & about how they can’t manage their budgets etc.

Mumsnet is really grim at times!

RTFT. Please can posters please differentiate between POTUS: head of government and state, and a U.K. president who would be head of state only.

The ludicrous US political system in which the 2020 election campaigns cost $14 billion followed by expensive inauguration has got nothing to do with the U.K.