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Well, I hated the coronation…

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TheColourofspring · 07/05/2023 06:02

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

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CeriB82 · 07/05/2023 06:12

I enjoyed it.
happy to contribute too

seeing im the 1st person to comment and 16 votes in your poll, many aren’t bothered anymore.

whingeing is tiring

WandaWonder · 07/05/2023 06:16

Hating it is a hobby, so is many people with chips on their shoulder

GoodChat · 07/05/2023 06:16

You knew exactly what the coronation was going to be before yesterday.

chopc · 07/05/2023 06:17

Yesterday was a moment in British history. The royal family are a part of British culture. I loved the traditions.

Please stop resenting other's wealth. Even if those individuals have less doesn't automatically mean you will have more . You need to make that happen yourself

TheyIndeed · 07/05/2023 06:19

I'm with you OP. It was unpleasant and made me long for us to have a republic for the first time.

I don't think there'll be a national "conversation" though, there's a lot of ingrained love for it all for some reason 🤷‍♀️

SophieJo · 07/05/2023 06:19

chopc · 07/05/2023 06:17

Yesterday was a moment in British history. The royal family are a part of British culture. I loved the traditions.

Please stop resenting other's wealth. Even if those individuals have less doesn't automatically mean you will have more . You need to make that happen yourself

I totally agree.

7Worfs · 07/05/2023 06:19

The gold and glitter has been sitting in vaults for hundreds of years, not newly spent money.

The money spent on organisation is money directly poured into the economy.

Just because the economy is in a downturn, doesn’t mean we revert to cavemen, caring only about the next meal.

Hotfootgoose · 07/05/2023 06:19

I know lots of families are struggling, but how much does it cost to wash clothes? People used to do this in a river years ago, so I doubt s blob of soap is the problem here.

produ · 07/05/2023 06:20

Please stop resenting other's wealth.

I don't mind the RF but questioning their wealth has nothing to do with resentment!

produ · 07/05/2023 06:21

I know lots of families are struggling, but how much does it cost to wash clothes? People used to do this in a river years ago

🤣🤣

pompomdaisy · 07/05/2023 06:21

I didn't hate it because I didn't actually watch it. I did drive past a soup kitchen / food handout station on the way to the movies last night which had a big queue of people at it. It really brought home to me the stark contrast and made me reflect.

PoisonCrystal · 07/05/2023 06:22

Is it actually he Coronation that you have a gripe with? Or decades of Government deceptions that have resulted in a massive income gap between richest and poorest people in this country?

Toddlerteaplease · 07/05/2023 06:22

I loved it. And since the Crown Jewels already exist. They might as well be used. Judy not throw 1000 years if history away.

produ · 07/05/2023 06:22

I don't think there'll be a national "conversation" though, there's a lot of ingrained love for it all for some reason

It's ingrained for many to doth thy gap! It's also a means of distracting the plebs.

produ · 07/05/2023 06:23

cap even 😆

FurAndFeathers · 07/05/2023 06:24

chopc · 07/05/2023 06:17

Yesterday was a moment in British history. The royal family are a part of British culture. I loved the traditions.

Please stop resenting other's wealth. Even if those individuals have less doesn't automatically mean you will have more . You need to make that happen yourself

In what way does not using taxpayers money to fund the Royals mean we wouldn’t have more taxpayers money to fund essential services?

but you’re right - we do need to make it happen ourselves. I used to like the royal family but a pardophile-defending king and a family of racists and sex offender-befrienders isn’t something I’d defend or support any more

I’m actually quite surprised that others are happy for their taxes to support a family of wealthy sex-offender supporters

CrunchyCarrot · 07/05/2023 06:25

I think you could get rid of the royals and yet poor people would be no better off. In fact I would be surprised if that didn't happen. I had to keep away from social media yesterday as so many people seemed intent on spoiling everything with their hate for just about every aspect of the coronation. It's exhausting and tiresome.

dottiedodah · 07/05/2023 06:29

I agree op .food banks are in great demand .our local church has a sort of first come first serve for food ,twice a week. Sometimes just coffee,as runs out.we are in the south in a prosperous town.prepostreous flaunting of wealth .someone told me that just one crown if sold it would clear the nat debt. Even if that's not strictly true,it would go a long way towards it! PC seems a nice enough chap,but this is outdated

ZoraMipha · 07/05/2023 06:29

I do agree with you OP, it is awful that we can fund these things but can't feed hungry children.

However I do wonder what they 'should' have done. What do you think would have been appropriate for the coronation?

There is a balance because the UK is to have any credibility on the world stage then we do have to show our wealth and power.

We couldn't really have had the coronation of a new king without a display of wealth - the rest of the world would see a weakness there and the UK is already losing power and reputation.

So, I completely understand and agree with where you're coming from in some ways, but also I don't know what the alternative could be.

TheColourofspring · 07/05/2023 06:31

Please stop resenting other's wealth. Even if those individuals have less doesn't automatically mean you will have more . You need to make that happen yourself

@chopc your post is hilarious. The royal family haven’t ‘worked’ for their wealth- it’s inherited from years of exploitation of everyone else including from slavery.

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CoozudBoyuPuak · 07/05/2023 06:34

Yanbu but yabu to watch it. Pandering to the egos of the overprivilieged is a decision each individual makes. When they look at the viewing figures they will assume all those watching were generally approving.

We just had a fairly normal Saturday at home. Played a board game, went for a walk, the antics of one particular billionaire had no impact on our lives. I agree it's obscene that yesterday's show was funded by taxpayers. However I think the best way to send a message that the rime for royalty is over will be to simply ignore them. Trump's inauguration as president was relatively sparsely attended. Wouldn't it have been funny if the whole population had just got on with their normal lives and ignored the pompous display, with the procession route just being normal London bustle. And the only people watching the procession being 4 old women knitting,

Sadly people don't fundamentally believe in liberty, equality and fraternity. These concepts are scary. They require personal responsibility, intelligent engagement with the problems in the world, and prevent you from accepting that it's right and proper that an accident of which vagina you join the human race from dictates whether you get to be a Head of State with millions showing you deference, or if you grow up being bounced between Care Homes and Young Offenders Institutions. And the ethics of how the royal family bring up those destined for such greatness is a whole separate thing.

Ceding control to the state instead of liberty is generally more comfortable for the majority of people, so long as you don't think too deeply about what you are giving up. Feudal concepts of greatness and Class are more comfortable than equality too, because then the problems in the world aren't really your problems, you find your little niche and do your little job and let the Ruling Classes rule and it's all OK. Fraternity is hard. It requires you to value and respect even those who disagree with you. It's easier to live in us-and-them silos. And coincidentally it makes it easier for those at the top to rule.

The monarchy is just the tip of the iceberg. It's part of the same system that makes so many of the most powerful people be from a small selection of bloodlines educated at a small selection of schools where the annual fee per pupil is almost twice the median wage. But it will be a long, long time before the comfortable attitude that these things are acceptable actually gets overthrown.

Zampa · 07/05/2023 06:34

I'm generally ambivalent about the Royals. It's a soft power etc. However, I did turn off the TV yesterday as it was making me sad and angry.

The obscene display of wealth on show, the arrest of democratic protestors and the grovelling on display was revolting.

You could run The Trussell Trust (a large food bank charity) for 2 years for the cost of the coronation.

TheColourofspring · 07/05/2023 06:35

@PoisonCrystal its both I think. Yes we have a Tory government that had asset stripped the country.

But the royals uphold the system too. Britain is wildly unequal as inherited privilege is ingrained into our system. The royals haven’t worked for their wealth- it’s been gained at the expense of everyone else.

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Seymour5 · 07/05/2023 06:36

@TheyIndeed we were a republic, under Oliver Cromwell.

produ · 07/05/2023 06:36

Feudal concepts of greatness and Class are more comfortable than equality too, because then the problems in the world aren't really your problems, you find your little niche and do your little job and let the Ruling Classes rule and it's all OK. Fraternity is hard. It requires you to value and respect even those who disagree with you. It's easier to live in us-and-them silos. And coincidentally it makes it easier for those at the top to rule.

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