Well, I hated the coronation…

[TheColourofspring]

I can see I am in the minority on here but I found yesterday to be distasteful on a gigantic scale. To watch the most privileged people travel in gold coaches & be decorated with diamonds and gold that is priceless in the face of millions of people struggling to eat/heat their homes just feels so wrong.

Our primary school has just opened a food bank. There are kids & families in crisis- children coming into school hungry & smelly as families can’t afford to wash clothes (I am not joking) - living in Dickensian conditions. Some of the teaching staff use the foodbank.

Yesterday was a display of obscene wealth. The royals didn’t even pay for it- we did. How can we find money for that absolute nonsense yet we can’t find money for large swathes of the population to feed themselves.

While Charles was sitting there in his gold costume holding these priceless items, plenty of families weren’t eating. It made me really angry.

I am tired of all the arguments for a royal family- how somehow these displays are quaint. Yesterday was an obscene display of wealth, inherited privilege and everything that’s wrong with this country. Seems a conversation about the royals is long overdue.

I don't disagree. But what do you replace it with? Considering the state of British politics right now, what makes you think the election of a head of state would serve us well on the world stage?
This isn't a secondary question. Stability is important. Without it we'd be economically even worse off. Imagine the Truss era x 1,000 and with no end in sight.

If we were a republic where would the new president live....generally they live in palaces. They would have to have big security details for safety and travel from places representing the great Britain in first class travel. They would also be given a budget like the royals for clothes ect whilst representing the uk. Not sure how it would save much money. Intact there would probably be some kind of swearing in ceremony happening every 8 years which would long term cost about the same as the coronation which happens once every what 70 years.
At least the royals bring in income via tourism and they do a lot for charity.

Are you from the future?

But the alternative could have been President Johnson…..

The last coronation was over 70 years ago so hardly a regular event.

In simple terms our problem is the gap between housing costs and pay.

I find it hard to see that unwashed clothes is
down to lack of money and cannot see except in exceptional circumstances that teachers are routinely using food banks.

What, like the royals did? Oh no, wait, they were literally born into it. Or married into it.

I have no problem with people earning vasts amounts of money, so long as they pay their taxes. I've no doubt most of them worked very hard to do so. But inheriting obscene amounts of wealth, power and privilege is fundamentally wrong.

However, the sheer amount of salivating sycophants desperate to grovel at Charlie's feet this whole spectacular has broken out suggests I'm very much in the minority in thinking so, and we're likely to be stuck with them for a while yet.

Well to wash clothes you’d need a working machine or at worst washing clothes in a bath then how do you dry them when many can’t heat their houses. What a horrible entitled statement

I did not watch the entire thing, as I have things to do.
However, things like the coaches already exist and are housed in museums, etc.
I know they did not use the (uncomfortable) gold coach going to the Abbey (did not see the return), but this is normally in the London Museum, I think.
The crown jewels are normally at the Tower of London.
So, if you are going to have a Coronation, then it seems bizarre not to use them.
I admit, I found it all a bit cringy, but that is because I am not religious, and this is a religious service, etc.

*Most of our ancestors were forced to live as a starving underclass, toil away on the fields, go off to war, doff their caps and "know their place" etc etc while a very small number of people literally stole all the land and money, enslaved others, and gave themselves fancy titles and more money.

How is replaying bits of this hundreds of years later "culture"?*

@TheyIndeed exactly this! And it continues to happen but most people just scream ‘but they do so much for charity’

An example- they could give the duchy of Cornwall back to the Cornish people - but will they? Of course not as it makes them billions & yet Cornwall is one of the poorest areas in the U.K.

it's obscene that yesterday's show was funded by taxpayers. However I think the best way to send a message that the time for royalty is over will be to simply ignore them

Yes I agree Zampa I watched it but I know many people ignored it - particularly young people. I like tradition and the armed forces but I was uncomfortable and annoyed at times yesterday. Things need to change.

Good plan. Do share any tips on how I can become a billionaire king of the realm. Happy to work hard and complete any training etc. CV is up to date.

London is an amazing city full of history that people from all over the World come to look at. But people in this country seem intent on destroying some of that due to their petty bitterness, spite and jealousy. Getting rid of the Royal family would be Brexit number 2. No financial benefit whatsoever.

I enjoyed it.

I'm glad it went so well.

@Dibblydoodahdah i can assure you that wanting less poverty, a fair society & for kids being able to eat doesnt come from spite and jealousy.

@ArseMenagerie 🤣🤣

I totally agree, an over the top ceremony which we have all have to pay for, I refused to watch it because I really don't think that Charles should be King, and as for Camilla, no, no, no!!! To me it's wrong on so many levels, had it been William I would have felt differently. Given Charles' age guess we will go through it all again in a few years times.

Yanbu.

This is the best illustration of inequality if I ever had one and is exactly what the Conservatives are about. Keeping the wealth within wealthy families and putting structures in place to lock it in. We have limited resources within the world so when it is hoarded so greedily, inequality gets worse.

Imagine you’re playing monopoly and part way through one player stacks up loads of cash then decides game over, stop there? That’s how I see the Royal family.

The history of the occasion is fascinating. The rituals, some of which date back thousands of years. The fact that kings and queens are coronated to put themselves closer to god. The insecurity underpinning the ceremony. I love history.

But ultimately these are just people who were lucky enough to be born into a rich family and we are supposed to play along? A family sitting on lands and wealth amassed by plunder and violence? And there’s no way to challenge or change it?

It is absurd.

This is hugely misdirected. The Royal Family are not the issue here.

Rexit.

British Civil War Part 2. Let’s hope it ends better for this Charles.

YANBU, I struggled to reconcile it too.

But ultimately these are just people who were lucky enough to be born into a rich family and we are supposed to play along? A family sitting on lands and wealth amassed by plunder and violence? And there’s no way to challenge or change it?

@Believeitornot EXACTLY! Its amazing to me that people comment that it’s jealousy etc- our entire society is structured for the benefit of these rich families with inherited privileges and no one thinks that’s weird or wrong!

You are most definitely not BU. I didn't mind the royal family until i handed over £££ to go look round Buckingham palace. That place is stuffed to the gills with treasure. I came out of there feeling sick at the sheer greed of stashing away so much wealth for the sake of one family. Who are absolutely nothing special and in a few cases, total degenerates. God only knows what their private gold collections look like.

And seeing Liz Truss and David Cameron SERIOUSLY triggered me!!

Totally with you OP. I'm not from the UK but saw some of the coverage over the last few days. If my government spent £100m on an event like this while people are starving, struggling to hear their houses (if they're lucky enough to have houses with homelessness through the roof) there would be protests on the streets. So distasteful and it baffles me that the British public go along with this and even celebrate it. But hey, I'm not British so who am I to comment 💁🏻‍♀️

@TheColourofspring and getting rid of the royal family will do that?! Utter bollocks and you know it. It’s more likely to damage the economy and mean that there is less money to go around, just like Brexit.

@CornishGem1975 its a system perpetuated by the government in power too obviously.

People often talk about the French and how they riot when they don’t like something. And it’s because they are a socialist republic who removed their royal family- they won’t stand for inequality in the way the British do