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Florenz · 06/05/2023 22:29

I mean tomorrow. Sunday.

vera99 · 06/05/2023 22:30

3dogsandarabbit · 06/05/2023 22:26

vera99 - Of course it matters how much Graham Smith gets paid. Isn't the organisation's money all from donations by the public. If I was ever persuaded to become a republican and donated to the cause I'd like to know how much of my money was going to fund Smith's lifestyle.

Well if you're that interested contact them yourself and while you're at it ask Charles about his finances, dodgy dealings and bags of cash from middle eastern despots and why his brother hasn't followed up on his comment that he would help the FBI.

pointythings · 06/05/2023 22:31

@ILikePizzas when you're out on the street, you don't get to be left alone. Protests are legal. Suck it up, buttercup. Want to live somewhere free of protests? Plenty of choice available for you.

(See what I did there?)

vera99 · 06/05/2023 22:36

Nothing was ruined today except the right to peaceful protest. Charles and his consort got the full trimmings at our expense and the world looked on mostly with joy. Though a horse troubled by the loud music and cheering of the crowds bolted and nearly killed or maimed some of the crowd.

Roussette · 06/05/2023 22:38

Florenz · 06/05/2023 22:29

How about today?

They did. Well done to them

sadieshavingashindig · 06/05/2023 22:41

Florenz · 06/05/2023 22:24

There is a time and a place for protest and a once in a lifetime event like the Coronation is not it. They were just trying to spoil a special day for everyone. How would people feel if protesters showed up to their wedding and tried to disrupt it?

There is a time and a place for protest
I mean, what more appropriate day is there for an anti-monarchy protest?

a once in a lifetime event like the Coronation
It's not a once in a lifetime event for many people, but supposing it is, then please see above comment.

They were just trying to spoil a special day for everyone.
You seem to have spelled 'exercising their democratic right' wrong.

How would people feel if protesters showed up to their wedding and tried to disrupt it
If they had paid towards it then fair do's.

LovelyJublee · 06/05/2023 23:03

vera99 · 06/05/2023 22:36

Nothing was ruined today except the right to peaceful protest. Charles and his consort got the full trimmings at our expense and the world looked on mostly with joy. Though a horse troubled by the loud music and cheering of the crowds bolted and nearly killed or maimed some of the crowd.

One of the clips I saw of a livestream within the crowds on tik tok before it all started, showed a few people shouting, swearing and booing at a few people with banners (who weren't chanting anything at that point) seemed more disruptive and noisy than some people holding a banner.

Charles looked like he'd rather be anywhere else and given his age, a coronation is not a once in a lifetime event like a pp suggested. Many many many people will see another head of state funeral and another coronation. A platinum jubilee won't be seen again by many and I think people should still be allowed to peacefully protest at that.

vera99 · 06/05/2023 23:11

sadieshavingashindig · 06/05/2023 22:41

There is a time and a place for protest
I mean, what more appropriate day is there for an anti-monarchy protest?

a once in a lifetime event like the Coronation
It's not a once in a lifetime event for many people, but supposing it is, then please see above comment.

They were just trying to spoil a special day for everyone.
You seem to have spelled 'exercising their democratic right' wrong.

How would people feel if protesters showed up to their wedding and tried to disrupt it
If they had paid towards it then fair do's.

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Forced to help pay for it and turned up to have a quiet word on the road outside the church at which then a burly security guard paid for by them hurls you to the ground whilst they sail pass oblivious to your distress.

user10675345 · 06/05/2023 23:22

James O'Brien
@mrjamesob

Surely arrests are potentially much more ‘disruptive’ than placards…

https://twitter.com/mrjamesob

vera99 · 06/05/2023 23:28

sadieshavingashindig · 06/05/2023 23:24

A sense of entitlement and someone else will do it. Love the Farm, Leave No Trace.

vera99 · 06/05/2023 23:35

Republic Retweeted

Graham Smith
I’m now out of the police station. Still waiting for my colleagues. Make no mistake. There is no longer a right to peaceful protest in the UK. I have been told many times the monarch is there to defend our freedoms. Now our freedoms are under attack in his name.

https://twitter.com/RepublicStaff

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 23:38

Seems their phones were confiscated.

Note to self. If protesting, carry a burner phone.

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vera99 · 06/05/2023 23:39

Thought the same myself !

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 23:40

People saying it's theatre, it's an event seem to forget that it is the Coronation of our Head of State. So it's much much more than a wedding or a theatre.

It has meaning. Political meaning. And we should be allowed to protest about that.

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Florenz · 07/05/2023 00:11

Graham Smith needs to realise that the monarchy is there to defend OUR freedoms. Not HIS freedoms. His freedom to protest doesn't outweigh the freedom of other people to enjoy the Coronation without disruption.

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cakeorwine · 07/05/2023 00:16

Florenz · 07/05/2023 00:11

Graham Smith needs to realise that the monarchy is there to defend OUR freedoms. Not HIS freedoms. His freedom to protest doesn't outweigh the freedom of other people to enjoy the Coronation without disruption.

The Monarchy does not care about you.

We have the right to protest. You might not like it but we do have the right to protest. Especially at a Coronation.

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cakeorwine · 07/05/2023 00:18

The only thing the Monarchy needs people for is for the adulation so they can keep going.

Without the people, they are nothing.

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countrygirl99 · 07/05/2023 04:22

Florenz · 07/05/2023 00:11

Graham Smith needs to realise that the monarchy is there to defend OUR freedoms. Not HIS freedoms. His freedom to protest doesn't outweigh the freedom of other people to enjoy the Coronation without disruption.

And not his freedom to protest? Only thr freedom of people who approve of the Mpnarchy? Who will be next?

Tigofigo · 07/05/2023 04:42

MyUsernameIsBetterThanYours · 06/05/2023 09:44

Well this thread certainly explains why we're in the position we're in.

People don't understand what peaceful protest is.

They don't understand what a 'right' is.

They don't understand why these things are important.

Yes it's quite scary.

The new law is terrifying.

Roussette · 07/05/2023 07:26

Here is the details of the City of Westminster's Night Safety Team arrested at 2am before the Coronation for having rape alarms in their possession. No, they didn't have them to spook the horses, before anyone starts on that nonsense.

They had them to protect women.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1654872359365402624.html

And here is the statement challenging these despicable arrests.

We should all be very worried.

Councillor Aicha Less, Cabinet Member for Communities and Public Protection, said:
“We are deeply concerned by reports of our Night Stars volunteers being arrested overnight. This service has been a familiar and welcome sight in the West End for a long time and have extensive training so they can assist the most vulnerable on the streets late at night.

“We are working with the Metropolitan Police to establish exactly what happened, and in the meantime, we are in touch with our volunteers to ensure they are receiving the support they need.”

pointythings · 07/05/2023 08:24

@Roussette I hope that the arrest of the Night Safety Team will trigger the investigation that is so badly needed. These heavy handed police tactics are not acceptable in a free, democratic society - if that is still what the UK is.

Roussette · 07/05/2023 08:37

pointythings · 07/05/2023 08:24

@Roussette I hope that the arrest of the Night Safety Team will trigger the investigation that is so badly needed. These heavy handed police tactics are not acceptable in a free, democratic society - if that is still what the UK is.

Watching Sky, because BBC won't address this of course.

Wes Streeting/Sophy Ridge they are just talking about it now. He says there should be an investigation. And people should be able to protest.

Againstmachine · 07/05/2023 08:38

Tarantullah · 06/05/2023 21:10

The police have chosen- well the government have chosen this stance towards protest, and underpaid and abused police officers have to enforce it.

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Nope the police pick and choose what laws they like to enforce and what ones they don't bother, I see this pretty regularly.

DuncinToffee · 07/05/2023 08:41

"Conspiracy to cause a public nuisance" seens to cover a lot

https://twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1654896181418381313?t=KgAkmaM1T4UJOkwohf-khQ&s=19
We now have a full breakdown of coronation protest arrests from the Met Police

All under 2022 law on "public nuisance" or breach of the peace (Public Order Act 1936, I think)