‘Influencers’ taking newborns on holiday

[Coffeeandbourbons]

I’ve noticed a lot of influencers taking their newborn or very tiny babies (under a few months old) on long haul holidays. AIBU to think this is a bit irresponsible? Long aeroplane journeys with all the germs, taking them to a very hot country when they’re so small with such fragile skin, mosquitos…

I can completely understand that sometimes people need to travel with small babies, or having a holiday when the baby is a bit older and more resilient. But it seems a bit irresponsible flying a 1 month old to Abu Dhabi seems selfish to me.

Prepared to be told IABU!

Can I imagine…..?

Quite honestly I haven’t thought about it but I do have a very large multicultural family so anything a mother in law in my family did I’d look at where it was coming from/what was behind it as in our family culture plays a very big part in things. And I know as a MIL if I did something that say one of our Eastern European relatives thought was strange I’m pretty sure the last thing anyone would do is lambast me for it. It’s great being a member of a huge multicultural family.

I was just about to say... should have stuck to Tattle😄

I took my newborn to New York when he was two weeks old. He was so portable, I needed to go, he came too. He had flown about eight times by the time he was six months. He’s very at home on a plane now, knows how to behave, is used to travel and we got used to travelling with all the extra gumph. I’m really good at taking the bare essentials now and have a tiny pram/pushchair.

I’m due to fly a reasonable distance with the new one and the toddler when they’re just three weeks, so not vastly different. Some of us just travel a lot.

It’s hardly irresponsible to take little babies to places where other little babies are born. 😆 some people really fret about others doing things they can’t/haven’t done. It’s funny.

You do realise people who Iive in hot countries have babies right? As for the plane journey you aren't advised to keep your baby away from people, in fact most people/cultures when a new baby arrives everyone goes around to meet the baby and hold them. I took a 5 week old on holiday abroad, had a lovely time, far easier than taking a toddler. I'm not an influencer just an average Joe who realised life doesn't need to stop because I had kids.

I think mind your own business.

People often go to visit family. We took ours on long haul flights when they were around 6 months old. European flights at 3 months. Mostly to visit family (although we didn't put it on instagram).

Yes they should all be miserable fuckers like you and cancel their holidays because everyone knows life stops, and should only revolve around it, when you have a baby.

My DC was born in a (very) hot country as we were living overseas at the time. They didn’t really enjoy the pool until they were 5 months (as most pools are kept too cold for it to be enjoyable for young babies!) and I was very cautious about making sure they were always in the shade etc. To be honest, in the early days we did end up spending most of our time inside in the air con!!

Now I live in the U.K. again and I wouldn’t go on certain holidays until they are a bit older so I do know what you mean. There is a difference between living in a hot country and travelling to one for a holiday. It depends on the weather of the country and what kind of holiday it is. No way would I travel to Abu Dhabi in July and be posing with my newborn with skin exposed in the swimming pool (but I wouldn’t go to southern Spain in July either). On the contrary, I would probably take them to Abu Dhabi in December as the weather is cooler.

Personally I wouldn't have taken mine away on holiday at that age but everyone is free to do as they wish it's not a dangerous or awful thing to do to a babu.

For me, babies that small are hard work which is just easier to do from home than somewhere else.

Also, who has bourbons with coffee? Only Bourbon goes with coffee, bourbons are dunked into tea you maniac.

Get back to Tattle where you can slag us jetsetters off to your heart’s content. 😌

I personally would not wish to take a very young baby on holiday abroad, and suffer all the travel, flights, security, etc.
However, I know people who have had to travel with a new born (moving to a new country etc), so not impossible to do.
I guess with 'influencers' they consider the travel their 'job' so to speak.

By the way, if you ever want preferential treatment on a plane, fly with a truly fresh baby. You’re treated like a damn Queen.

My dc were born in a very hot country. They weren't affected differently by heat or mosquitoes at newborn age compared to any other time. We also traveled by plane albeit back to UK but that was the opposite problem of subjecting them to the cold! You just put on or take off maters as necessary. Don't see the issue. They never got ill from plane journeys

Abu Dhabi probably has fewer mosquitoes than the UK.

The 5th is just as likely to pick up germs from the aeroplane as the 1st. Babies immune systems don’t mature until 6 weeks old, I think taking them on a plane where 200 people are sat close together breathing the same air is selfish.

Good job Stacey's baby is nearly 3 months then

Not your baby, not your problem. Do different with your own babies if you care so much.

We live in Abu Dhabi and have had all 3 of our children here. They’re absolutely fine- there aren’t really many mosquitoes, it’s only just got properly hot but the country is set up for hot weather (air conditioning, shaded parks and pools etc), and healthcare, sanitation and food hygiene etc is just as good as the UK.
It’s not everyone’s choice of holiday destination and it definitely has its flaws but it’s a totally safe for babies and children. As are lots of other places that parents might choose/need to take their babies to.

Flights/airports are always going to carry a risk of catching transmissible diseases but so does using public transport in the UK or going to baby groups or having older siblings who are at school/nursery etc. Unless you live in a total bubble you can’t really prevent your baby being exposed to communicable diseases.

It’s totally fine if you don’t feel comfortable with taking your young children on holiday, but it’s also a totally reasonable thing for other parents to do (my only hesitation personally would be that it’s a lot of hassle and not that relaxing/fun).
Lots of things that other people choose to do wouldn’t be right for me and my family but that doesn’t mean it’s not right for them.

I took my 4.5 week old dc1 to france and Spain, then back to france at 8 weeks. Maybe baby arrived late and they had thought they’d be 6-8 weeks old? Family members took their 6 week old dc2 from australia to france (&dc1 too). My own parents moved hemispheres with a 5 week old. People do these things. Other people judging them should find better things to do.

What is the point of these "influencers"? Why do people pay attention to them?

They sell their life online for other people to follow, ignore or criticise. Most people understand the premise (bar this thread that seems to think they’re private citizens and it’s deeply unfair to query anything they do!)

Their lives, their decision

No idea, but a certain idiotic bunch look UpTo these people who are often only famous for copping of with someone on a tv show.

It's interesting people don't like to see criticism of them and to mind our own business, when actually pushing this is how they make their money and as such are open to criticism.

Well whose would it be otherwise? Do you not understand the premise of celebrity and public commentary?

Lots of germs in hospitals and on public transport. Baby is fine on a plane.

What's wrong with taking tiny babies abroad? So long as you're safe with the sun, what's actually wrong?

Well exactly! It’s hilarious when people put things like ‘not for you to decide OP’ like I have any such power 😆 and they seem unable to grasp that these are people who make their living selling their life (and children!) for public commentary. I haven’t even named anybody - this thread is really harmless compared to a lot of them. Yet everyone is foaming at the mouth and going all ‘leave Britney alone’ on me 😂

If it was the radfords I reckon the replies would be completely different…