I don't believe we've been to the moon and SpaceXs failure further convinces me.

[MrsRobinsonsHandprints]

I know I've posted this before and the majority of you think I'm batty, but I don't think we've landed on the moon.

3 billion USD, a giant leap in technological advances and yet it can't even launch.

Why don't people who question the science ever have any actual scientific credentials. It's like they've forgotten that they were thick as mince at school.

I wouldn't be surprised op. I just don't think as a species we've achieved something once and not been able to replicate it and build on it after. The technology we have, the knowledge, the super computers calculating the figures. Everything has improved massively in the last 50+ years but not much going on in space travel.

Also getting the astronauts back in one piece too, no one had ever taken off from the moon before obviously and travelled back to earth and we're just supposed to think they did on the first attempt without a glitch.

I think given the political climate at the time this was probably an Oscar winning performance.

Easy. The Russians are famous for their zany sense of humour, and the Soviet Union was a paradise for pranksters. There’s grainy old footage somewhere of Joe Stalin with a lampshade on his head, leading a conga line dancing round Lenin’s tomb.

The Soviet and US space teams were great mates in reality. Both sides kept all the money they were paid to develop the space programme, and spent it on wild parties. So when the USA released footage of the pretended Moon landings, their Soviet counterparts went along with the hoax.

To this day, the aged veterans meet every year to toast the success of their biggest and best practical joke.

The lethal radiation shield? The radiation is no different on the surface of the moon to anywhere else in similar proximity to the sun without an atmosphere. The ISS is an international project of which the Russians are partners.

I agree OP. I have some very interesting conversations with DP about it because he loves space & knows a lot about it but even he can't convince me.

Because they learn all they need to know from conspiracy nutters on Twatter. Why would they need a PhD in physics or engineering?

@Theimpossiblegirl

I'm completely with you. I don't think they had the technology

So what technology do you think they needed in the 60s that they did not have?

There was absolutely no need for fancy gadgets such smartphones, ipads, tablet PCs, internet etc....

A lot of what was done was achieved at considerable expense by development of, or adaptation of, equipment that was already in the pipeline for the defence and aerospace industry.....in addition there then needed to be chucked into the mix a willingness to take risks.

In the US if you question the achievements of the country, then you can find yourself and family in real danger, thanks to easy gun ownership.

There is some absolute crazy shit on this thread, but this tops it all. Do you really believe this? Have you never been on twitter?

Well personally I disagree with you - but thank you for letting us know your opinion. You are as entitled to have your view as I have to hold mine.

But you're actually saying that he knows a lot about it, implying that he knows more than you. Like, how science actually works?

We went more than once for a start. Lift off from the moon is a cake walk in comparison to the earth as gravity is not much of a limiting factor.

Hoping @Viburnam returns to explain if that was a joke or not.

But please don't share that view on social media because there will be other muppets who will start to think there must be something in it.

Having been, there really is no point in going back until something useful can be achieved.

The expense is phenomenal and hasn’t been a priority.

And today’s health and safety would put a bloody great dampener on any mission.

They are expecting up to the first five to fail in some way. They have already had some pretty spectacular failures of landings.

Watch the film Hidden Figures. The calculations for early rocket launches and manned space travel were done by humans, they were actually called “computers” because they computed numbers. The human beings , mostly women btw, were able to calculate to much more accurate specs than early computers.

It’s a brilliant film btw, celebrating amazing women , well worth watching and remembering that women played a part in space exploration history right from the start, even if they weren’t visible.

Great film.

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints well, I'm not going to mock you. I think it's strange they haven't repeated it. 8 years later, the film carpricorn one was made! I loved that film. My opinion is about 80% believe it but if it came to light that it wasn't true, I don't think I would die of shock.

@viques you and @EmmaEmerald beat me to the Crown point.

Interesting that people believe a totally for-profit programme, but not actual historical fact.

There are many people that believe the earth is flat and the capability of GPS, not to mention physics or that you can see the curve of the earth from a plane will convince them.

The space race was won. Apollo 12 and 13 were almost cut due to budget costs.

Plus the Americans had quite a big war to pay for after that.

The ISS does the work of scientists wanting to learn for instance the effects of zero gravity on plant and human tissue. Sending the Hubble and its successors into far space evolves our learning.

The risk of landing on the Moon again and the net effect of doing so clearly isn't worth the same or it would've been done.

Gosh, I didn’t realise we had someone on board who could so confidently include themselves in NASA s future plans.

🙂

This is one conspiracy theory that I could actually get on board with. Definitely strange that the feat has never been accomplished since.

Musk’s end goal isn’t a moon base. I suspect his end goal is a company colony on Mars.
The Starship is meant to carry 100 people on interplanetary missions.

He advertised for people willing to go to Mars.
He founded the Boring company- a company of Earth borers like the kind that dig mines and the Chunnel. Because any Mars colony will have to be underground.

Seriously, he thinks he can get us to Mars. For a vanity project it’s grandiose.

There have been SIX crewed moon landings. Is doing it five more times not enough replication?

So is that your only reasoning? The cost?
maybe you should read the autobiography by Buzz. He once punch another man in the face for questioning did Apollo 17 actually land on the moon.

We left stuff on the moon that's still there. It can still be seen. The reflectors are still working.