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to ask if you think Joe Wicks is tone deaf of just supportive of his wife?

328 replies

moderationincludingmoderation · 17/04/2023 21:07

Joe Wicks has caused a bit of a stir with a recent Instagram post - thoughts?

www.instagram.com/p/Cq8Q3XvrXqL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

OP posts:
TeamSleep · 17/04/2023 21:28

wincarwoo · 17/04/2023 21:19

He exercises at home.

Those pictures and videos didn’t look like their home unless they have lots of other people working out in their home too?

CherryCokeFanatic · 17/04/2023 21:28

Sounds like denial to me

Tonkerbea · 17/04/2023 21:28

Good for her, but his inability to acknowledge the privilege that contributes to her success and fitness is alienating to the typical follower. You can tell he hasn't got some PR team to run his accounts, which I suppose is quite refreshing.

Albiboba · 17/04/2023 21:28

OliviaPark · 17/04/2023 21:24

It is depressing that as soon as an attractive woman is involved that other women jump to ‘oh you’re just jealous’.

It is possible to have an opinion on an issue concerning an attractive women that isn’t fuelled by jealousy.

Sure, but if the topic is literally her physical abilities and shape what else is it?
What is the ‘issue’ concerning her that some women seem so worked up about? Other than seemingly being happy with herself and her husband posting about her fitness.

NeatCompactSleeper · 17/04/2023 21:29

ItsCalledAConversation · 17/04/2023 21:12

Urgh I used to love Joe but all his recent posts are about her. He’s the famous interesting one, she’s just a skinny dolly bird as far as I can see. He seems to hero worship her for popping out kids and then beast of herself back into Coachella-mini-dress-wearing shape. It’s turgid and boring of both of them. I actually unfollowed him today for this reason, so it’s quite funny this post has come up.

'Skinny dolly bird'?

'Popping out kids'?

🤮🤮🤮

Have a word with your sexist self.

Bluebells1970 · 17/04/2023 21:29

Fair enough he's proud of her, but those videos are a bit unsavoury. Not sure that anyone needs to see that much of her crotch when she's weight lifting, but each to their own I guess.

I was proud of myself for getting dressed and brushing my hair when my last baby was 4 months. We all have our own goals I guess Blush

fellrunner85 · 17/04/2023 21:30

I don't see what's wrong with it at all.
She looks fit, healthy and happy, so what's wrong with him posting how proud he is of that?
And yes some women might struggle to get back into fitness after giving birth, for any number of reasons, but lots can and do choose to work out for their mental and physical health.

Her reality of being fit and healthy isn't any less valid than someone else's reality of being 2st overweight and stuck to the sofa.

NeatCompactSleeper · 17/04/2023 21:30

moderationincludingmoderation · 17/04/2023 21:27

I'm not envious. I am really happy in my body & with my life. I too excercise a lot and work really hard at that.

But I if had a massive audience like him, I would think it my responsibility to consider that the majority of them are not in such a fortunate position and it's a very sensitive topic.

Right 🙄

whatapfaff · 17/04/2023 21:31

CherryCokeFanatic · 17/04/2023 21:22

I think the only people annoyed by this are probably envious (or in denial of being so)

Bollocks.

Catspyjamas17 · 17/04/2023 21:31

I think you could read into it a smug subtext that all women could do the same if they just got off their lazy arses when they are pregnant and immediately post partum. Some women get SPD and can barely move let alone go to the gym. There are surely also risks around lifting weights in pregnancy and going for it hell for leather in the gym straight afterwards. It's probably not what he intended but he needs to read the room better. I was a regular gym goer and runner, pretty fit and light but as soon as I was pregnant it didn't feel right to do anything other than gentle yoga/callisthenics and walking. I went back to running after but it felt like my insides were going to fall out at first, not right at all. I exercise regularly but I've always been overweight since having DD2 and also got endometrosis and had a cervical cancer scare. Also a lot of women have no-one to look after the baby while they go to the gym or can't afford it. This sort of post makes me feel slightly rubbish tbh and I would usually avoid it, as I avoid women's magazines. It may be kindly meant and supportive of his wife, but for most people reading it isn't helpful. It would be better if he'd just said his wife exercises regularly and has been lucky to be able to keep exercising throughout pregnancy and post partum, and looks great. Not quite so smug/unhelpful without the detail.

Iyjd · 17/04/2023 21:31

TeamSleep · 17/04/2023 21:18

My first thought is who’s looking after their children while they’re both at the gym all the time? It doesn’t bother me really but there’s no way I had time to do all that training with young children around.

It’s their jobs though. It’s no different to your child being in nursery whilst you work, she’s a model I think so if she’s getting back to work she needs to work for it, he is a fitness trainer so would work with his wife to support her.

Hankunamatata · 17/04/2023 21:32

I'm not remotely jealous. However I did have severe pnd and cried at most things. That probably would have tipped me over the edge as almost another unobtainable goal that I wasn't meeting as a new mum

Phos · 17/04/2023 21:33

I don't see what is tone deaf about it??

WestwardHo1 · 17/04/2023 21:33

I think it's a proud, supportive, encouraging post.

Just because she has done it, doesn't mean everyone should feel they have to try though. I don't see why people get so upset and influenced by what's on social media. Don't do it if you don't want to. There is an element of choice in how you feel.

TheOrigRights · 17/04/2023 21:33

ItsCalledAConversation · 17/04/2023 21:12

Urgh I used to love Joe but all his recent posts are about her. He’s the famous interesting one, she’s just a skinny dolly bird as far as I can see. He seems to hero worship her for popping out kids and then beast of herself back into Coachella-mini-dress-wearing shape. It’s turgid and boring of both of them. I actually unfollowed him today for this reason, so it’s quite funny this post has come up.

Skinny dolly bird?
I don't see that at all, I see a slim, strong, healthy looking young woman.

OliviaPark · 17/04/2023 21:34

Albiboba · 17/04/2023 21:28

Sure, but if the topic is literally her physical abilities and shape what else is it?
What is the ‘issue’ concerning her that some women seem so worked up about? Other than seemingly being happy with herself and her husband posting about her fitness.

I don’t think it’s a bit of a stupid post by him because I’m jealous of his wife’s body (fair play to her, she looks great).

It’s been pretty well explained many times above.

Fair enough if you don’t agree that he should acknowledge their privilege but those that think he should aren’t necessarily fuelled by jealousy.

ChienChatCheval · 17/04/2023 21:34

moderationincludingmoderation · 17/04/2023 21:19

I personally think it's tone deaf.
It's very common for post partum women to feel totally floored, physically and mentally for a while. And to feel insecure in their bodies.
There are also many who can't physically work out due to either pregnancy complications, birth complications etc.
And then you have the issue of childcare funds, time, support etc.

He hasn’t said anything bad to those women though has he? We can’t live in a world where we can’t say anything positive about someone through fear of upsetting someone else.

WestwardHo1 · 17/04/2023 21:35

she’s just a skinny dolly bird as far as I can see

Oh do fuck off.

Crimsonripple · 17/04/2023 21:35

TeamSleep · 17/04/2023 21:18

My first thought is who’s looking after their children while they’re both at the gym all the time? It doesn’t bother me really but there’s no way I had time to do all that training with young children around.

My thought exactly! I actually think she looks far too skinny. I find these smug posts nauseating too. I'm sure if I had a PT and a nanny my figure would be amazing but alas I need to work a normal 9-5 job so I can't dick about in some hideous pink number in the gym during the day!!

3BSHKATS · 17/04/2023 21:35

They can't be any worst than Jamie and Jules Oliver surely ?

thecatsthecats · 17/04/2023 21:35

Mochinated · 17/04/2023 21:18

Yeah it's bollocks. Absolutely ridiculous "fitfluencer" fantasy. Not a reasonable benchmark for anyone 4 months pp.

And what does baby's sleep have to do with anything? The issue is the biological changes through pregnancy and pp, not sleep deprivation which can happen to anyone at any stage of life, unrelated to having a baby around.

Tone deaf might not be the right phrase, bloody moron more like.

Sleep regulates the production of leptin and ghrelin, two hormones that regulate appetite, and the subsequent processing of calories consumed.

Someone who sleeps well and someone who sleeps badly will have different weight gain even if they eat and exercise exactly the same.

But on topic, tone policing is a bit of a bore. It only encourages rampant dishonesty about what people do, are capable of, and what effort it takes to achieve anything.

Speaking as a pregnant woman who has languished a bit with sickness but feels much better for having done an average of 8m hiking every day for the past week, I want to do more, not less.

InSpainTheRain · 17/04/2023 21:36

Surely he is being proud and supportive - I assume that's his wife. Nice post I think.

Catspyjamas17 · 17/04/2023 21:36

It's not just that fitness is his job, it's that afaik fitness for all has always seemed to be his remit. Making all the free videos for kids in lockdown and so on, and doing what is achieveable for you. This post is the opposite of that, doesn't go with how I perceive his image anyway.

Freepo · 17/04/2023 21:36

I actually really like Rosie Wicks, I thought she seemed lovely in the PE with Joe when she filled in for him. She looks great and fair play to her - but even if you have straightforward births which mean lifting heavy weights is safe soon after birth, most women would not be in anything like that sort of shape by lifting weights three times a week. In fairness to Joe he acknowledges genetics plays a part.

I think it’s lovely he’s so proud of her and the post wasn’t that bad because he doesn’t say anyone could look like her if only they weren’t so lazy, but I think he probably doesn’t fully grasp how much harder it would be for others.

mainly I notice he has stopped saying how it’s easy to go out for dinner with kids, just be chilled and your baby will be chilled too and sleep in the pram. I assume his second and third babies weren’t as easy as his first!

3BSHKATS · 17/04/2023 21:37

TBH it's nice to see a man who actually acknowledges his wife did a wonderful thing bringning his children into the world v's the bollocks we have to see about Rent a womb celebrities who see gestation as something to outsource at their convenience.