to ask if you think Joe Wicks is tone deaf of just supportive of his wife?

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Joe Wicks has caused a bit of a stir with a recent Instagram post - thoughts?

www.instagram.com/p/Cq8Q3XvrXqL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Its a fitness page and both he and his wife are fitness fanatics. Between them they've done more for this country's health than all the plus size unhealthy models combined, especially in their efforts to salvage childrens health given the disgusting lockdowns imposed on them. He's showing what is possible with dedication. I'm sure their financial circumstances contribute to Rosie's free time somewhat, but I think those that are angry at this are latching on to that and don't really like that you get out what you put in. Maybe you don't have 2 hours a day and a personal trainer/chef, but most of us could find an extra 10 minutes to eat better and half an hour a day to do some fitness stuff. You might not get to where Rosie is but you'll be heading in that direction rather than wallowing in bitterness.

I think this is simply just mothers and women threatened by her physique because theirs isn’t the same, looking for a reason to say it’s tone deaf. They’re resentful and it makes them face things they don’t want to face. The thing is, you don’t need money to be in good shape. Exercising is free, but you do have to have the motivation and the will. You don’t even need that much energy, it creates energy.

I do it before my toddler wakes up or after he’s gone to bed. Occasionally during the weekends if my H has him. Because I make time to do it, because being fit is important to me, because my body being in good shape (I am currently pregnant) is important to me, and because health is important to me.

And lo and behold, I’m not threatened by his post.

And it is hardly surprising that a fitness influencer makes a post about his wife‘s awesome postnatal fitness.

It does all rather imply that he only values his wife for her body. I wouldn't be too impressed if I were in her place.

Between them they've done more for this country's health than all the plus size unhealthy models combined

I agree. One got people up and moving every day, the others tell people their larger bodies are heathy when they’re not.

Yeah but I don't think it's just that.
Joe wicks cares veryyyyy about coming across like the perfect husband and dad and for some I think it very much comes across as smug.

I actually enjoy following Joe, but I do think he loves himself which makes me cringe!!!

Agree, it does come down to priorities.

There are so many YT videos that have short workouts in them if you choose to look for them. I follow Blogilates on YT and she has many workout videos that are less than 15 minutes long (some even as little as 3 min). Just doing one 3 minute workout urges me to do another and more until I feel that I’ve done enough.

I'd certainly be concerned if I ever put weight on...

There is a middle ground between defining yourself by your fitness levels and exercising enough to be as fit and healthy enough. You don't need to look like her to look good.

@Newnanit it’s not his fault no, he’s working to pay the bills.

Obviously I worded that badly but I hope it's obvious, what I'm getting at. Tired.

@ShirleyPhallus I’m on my phone while breastfeeding, I can’t work out while feeding a baby? When the baby naps the laundry or dishes will need doing or the bathroom will need cleaning.

Indeed @AllOfThemWitches There was quite a good video I stumbled across on Facebook where a young woman had a very toned physique with defined musculature. She then went on to describe her diet which was completely "clean", no treats at all and very very controlled eating and portions and exactly how much time she spent in the gym to achieve it (loads). Whole life revolving around exercise and diet, no room for socialising etc. Then at the end it showed how she looked now, still exercising but with a more normal still healthy diet but with a few treats and going out with friends. Still great, lovely healthy and slim but not as defined obviously and much more realistic.

I have no idea what his relationship with his wife is like because I don’t know him. But, if someone praises another person about one thing, that doesn’t equate to them not valuing other things about that person.

Exactly. Every time someone posts or says "pregnancy isn't a disability" - well, it bloody well can be. And you can have an existing disability and be pregnant.

I read his book ‘Wean in 15’ when weaning DD and I found him insufferably smug. He mentions how his wife suffered with establishing breastfeeding but she preserved because it was the best thing to do for their child because if you want it enough it does just happen. Then when she got breastfeeding established she pumped because it was important for him to be part of their daughter’s feeding journey and a way to bond with her. How his daughter when straight onto an open cup because she’s a boss.

There is no acknowledgment of how they are privileged to be able to afford breastfeeding support. No awareness of the extra burden he’s putting on his wife to pump so he can be part of the feeding journey or the countless other ways he can bond with his children. No awareness that all kids are different.

This post just feels like the exact same as that. He needs his wife to be slim and working out throughout pregnancy and postpartum. There is no awareness of the support they have open to them to enable his wife to match his brand. If his wife didn’t want to match his brand, I’m not sure how much he’d be praising her. So it just doesn’t feel genuine.

It can be disabling for some and of course an existing disability doesn't just vanish away when pregnant, but pregnancy itself isn't a disability. Sure people need to listen to their bodies and everyone will have a different experience, but similarly the rhetoric that pregnant women are rendered incapable of things due to their pregnancy isn't helpful. The message surely rather than it is or isn't a disability and an arbitrary list of things women can and can't do is that everyone is different and that's okay.

We aren't all unhealthy. I model part time, and am plus size
5ft 10, size 16 and I exercise regularly
That's a bit like saying everyone who is slim is healthy

He’s just tapping into her potential to drive interest in his business.

As other posters have commented, the slightly explicit camera angles of Rosie working out and revealing outfits is titillation for the male followers keeping them interested.

Younger women may look to her as inspiration for relationships, lifestyle etc so it keeps them interested.

I might be a cynic but I think it’s all just marketing as his family appeal is dropping off post pandemic

She has always had an incredible body, back to when she was all over the covers of Nuts and Zoo magazines. I am sure she has worked very hard but genetics helps massively too.

I am hoping his intention was never to make other women feel bad about themselves?

Rosie looks phenomenal, she’s clearly worked hard to remain in shape and Joe is rightly proud of his wife. Not sure why you think it’s so wrong of him to be proud of her.

I'm glad you're healthy and happy. You shouldn't feel ashamed to be a size 16, but it is dangerous to suggest that other people should accept that they can be a size 16 and also be as healthy as they can be. It does women, and all people a disservice to take pot shots at amazing healthy people like Rosie Wicks yet pretend that being overweight is somehow empowering and healthy.

@Everanewbie I don't judge anyone on their size, it's not in my nature

My preference is a belief for the best health someone can achieve individually and that looks different to everyone according to disability, body shape, time, money etc etc
I wouldn't say a size 16 is unhealthy or healthy, that's between them and their doctor the same as if they were a size 6

Also that health doesn't mean weight necessarily, it's complex. You can eat no veg/fruit and do no exercise and be a size 8 but that's not health to me

Also what I find upsetting is when people say "pretending being overweight is healthy"

You can be healthy and overweight. I'm not promoting anything except for showing how clothes look on a size 16 which is the average size. People of all sizes should be able to see how clothes look, and if people look at my Instagram they would see stuff like home cooked food with loads of fruit and veg, me exercising regularly, and outfits

If I was promoting drugs or excessive alcohol then yeah, but I'm just wearing clothes

'Healthy' is a relative and time-limited term. You can be medically fit as a smoker, heavy drinker and burn every time the sun comes out, but none of those things are advisable as they increase your risk of bad health outcomes. Being overweight is a big risk factor in so many ways, and being healthy now doesn't mean that is permanent. By being overweight a person is not doing all they can to maximise their health and minimise morbidity and mortality risk. Rosie Wicks is and looks great for it. Yeah Joe is a bit smug, all that 'baby trees' stuff for Broccoli, and pretending that a few star jumps for 15 minutes will get you his physique when its obvious he lifts heavy, but his message is positive and infinitely more valuable to society than 'fat and healthy' etc.

Ever been on Tattle 😂