to ask if you think Joe Wicks is tone deaf of just supportive of his wife?

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Joe Wicks has caused a bit of a stir with a recent Instagram post - thoughts?

www.instagram.com/p/Cq8Q3XvrXqL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I didn't think for one second you were judging anyone, that wouldn't even make sense.

I was wondering why you posted to tell us that, rather than just Googling?

I think they both look amazing. It's not a criticism of everyone else to say so.
He's peddling health and fitness and honestly we should listen to more of that rather than fetishising the bloody sugar and butter creations on bake off and moaning that the NHS can't afford us.

Absolutely this

for all those who have managed to read the post on insta, it just takes one look at the hundreds of comments to understand why it’s tone deaf

it has upset a lot of new mums - because they can manage ten minutes of exercise perhaps - but don’t have or can’t afford a PT, gym in their house or childcare in order to be able to work out for hours on end like Rosie has.

there are plenty of women who would want to work out like that if they had the means to..

Ok… I think olympics should be cancelled… I feel like it’s tone deaf when I can’t compete and it makes me feel inferior. Also gyms should actually ban fit people- they clearly don’t need to be there whereas I feel inferior when I look at them.

sounds insane, right?

if you don’t like looking at fitness content - then don’t. I’m over 2 stone heavier after bubz 2 but I really admire Rosie and her dedication. I know you think nannies and cleaners helped. And they might. However it is still discipline and hard work. Joe us so right to be proud.

This would have upset me postpartum. I had terrible pregnancies where literally the basics were too

I think it’s a bit annoying as he’s not checking their privilege. I wish I had time to go the gym post baby and rebuild my body. I haven’t had more than 20 mins to myself in 6 months.

This would have upset me postpartum. I had terrible pregnancies where literally the basics were too much on some days let alone "continuing to exercise through pregnancy".

Then I breastfed and did start to exercise but lost NO WEIGHT until a couple of months after I stopped completely.

So this physically isn't achievable for those who retain weight whilst breastfeeding.

I just think, are women never allowed to have a break from aspiring to perfection, not even when growing and nurturing a child?

And even then it is also tone deaf for him to not to acknowledge the immense privilege that made this a hundred times easier for his wife. Without someone looking after the baby whilst she trained, without someone inevitably doing the drudgery, the cleaning, the laundry mountains, without someone preparing healthy meals instead of scoffing a few biscuits because you're dog-tired.

Maybe Joe could acknowledge how many low paid (probably) women who are not in the best shape of their lives actually made this possible for his wife.

Still don't think it's tone deaf...?

Why does no one ever complain about the tone-deafness of Stacey Solomon et al? And their pools/holidays/posh houses etc in a cost of living crisis? How is this any worse?

Nope.

He’s not responsible for your feelings.

Riiiiiight. So people in "influencer" positions have no responsibility to try to ensure that what they're pedalling is not actually irresponsible for people's physical and mental health?

I think that pretty much is the opposite of what most people seem to say on mumsnet most of the time.

What he is promoting is physically impossible for many breastfeeding mothers without giving up breastfeeding, which has been proven to give babies the best start, is beneficial for bonding with the baby, reduces the risk of breast cancer for the mother etc. But y'know gotta think about those Instagram likes.

I don’t think influencers have any such responsibility.

they aren’t mental health professionals. They just do their thing and people like it 🤷🏻‍♀️ You’re expecting too much.

Again, look at Stacey Solomon. Or Mrs Hinch. Where’s the criticism about the unrealistic expectations set by them?

It’s not Joe Wicks’ fault you haven’t had more than 20 minutes to yourself in 6 months -that’s your husband / partners!

I was a gym bunny pre baby. Trained up to delivery - literally the day before. Not to boast but I had a great body.

Struggling to loose weight post partum.

Post partum I am training once a week and going for a run once a week. It’s all I can manage between EBF, DH working full time, and feeling knackered - baby wakes every hour for food.

Also, my baby won’t be put down so we still live on cook ready meals. Not ideal. But it’s that or I try and prepare a healthy meal with baby screaming throughout. We opt for the ready meal so baby is ok (won’t take a sling before anyone asks) until baby grows out of needing to be held constantly.

Joe’s post did make me feel a bit rubbish to be honest. I questioned if I really was trying hard enough to lose the weight.

I find it easiest just to avoid all ‘influencers’ online as I’ve no desire whatsoever to be influenced by them (or to influence others myself). This guy and his wife are just doing what they do for a living and I can’t imagine why people would follow them if they don’t like that.

Haven't clicked on the link as can't be arsed, but reading some of the comments on here makes me think it's all a bit smug and tone deaf.

There’s all sorts of irresponsible stuff online. It’s your responsibility to manage what you look at and the impact it has on you.

I don’t use Instagram. I only heard about this through OPs post and I only know him because he’s did the kids PE thing during covid. (He didn’t influence anyone I know to get their kids to join in) I couldn’t give a fuck about likes.

These people and their lifestyles, fitness levels, families etc really don’t have to have any impact on you at all, but they are entitled to live that way if they want to. You have to get to a place where you’re happy with yourself as you’ll struggle with life and be constantly offended.

I agree.

You can’t blame others for making you feel bad by just living their life how they’ve chosen to.

I propose we ban "tone deaf" phrase.

Again, look at Stacey Solomon. Or Mrs Hinch. Where’s the criticism about the unrealistic expectations set by them?

There’s loads if you care to look for it, tbf.

Not everything is about you though. For the majority of women exercise during pregnancy is healthy and should be encouraged; gentle or carrying on with your existing regime. There's nothing wrong with encouraging this, if people can't/are advised not to then don't.

His post didn’t bother me at all (even as someone who is carrying some baby weight) but I did feel embarrassed for him that that’s what he calls ‘hard work’.

It also makes me laugh when he posts about Rosie being ‘shy’ or ‘private’ then posts videos of her arse. And seemingly forgets she used to be a Page 3 girl. Real shrinking violet that one.

Being proud of someone you love for working hard is not tone deaf.

Is it now? 🙄