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To ask if you’d consider me a failure? Be honest.

453 replies

Ladybirdshere · 17/04/2023 01:34

I met with friends on Saturday I’ve been friends with for around 10 years. We are very close, meeting up twice a month on average and share things about our life.

Well Saturday turned out to be a sort of intervention for me by my two friends. They said that they wanted to speak to me as they’d been talking and they felt that life was passing me by and that they felt I wasn’t doing much with my life.

l I think this was mainly focused around around boyfriends and living situation as we are all 29, I am single but my friends are both engaged and both have children.

Anyway, would you consider me a failure?

  1. I work in advertising for 32k a year
  2. I’m well travelled, last year I went travelling around America on my own
  3. I can drive and have my own car
  4. I have a degree and a masters
  5. Ive lived in 4 different cities in the past ten years

but I don’t have

  1. a partner, I’ve been single around a three years. I had a really bad breakup and simply haven’t found a new person
  2. i recently moved back in with my mum as my finances changed and it meant I couldn’t afford living alone.
  3. I don’t have any children

Am I a failure? We sort of agreed to disagree and they said they wanted to just make sure I stayed on the right track :(

OP posts:
Springtimemakesmehappy · 17/04/2023 10:38

Oh my goodness you are still so young - life is not about reaching a destination but about enjoying the journey - which you sound like you are doing. If your friends really said/ think what you are saying, it says way more about their narrow minded mindset than it says about your life choices (nothing wrong with their life choices, but no reason for them to be judging yours). It sounds like you need to branch out to find more like minded friends.

ReUseRepeat · 17/04/2023 10:43

Honestly OP the fact you're even questioning this is a huge red flag, why did you even listen to that or allow people to patronise you like that? That's the only element of failure here- your inability to hold your own against morons like them.

3moons · 17/04/2023 10:47

I don't normally post but I couldn't pass this one. You sound lovely and should be very proud of everything you've done so far but it's more than that, you sound very mature and balanced. They made an error and will realise it in time.

FigTreeInEurope · 17/04/2023 10:48

Do your friends watch Andrew Tate videos between nappy changes?

Letspovertyplayagain · 17/04/2023 10:48

@Ladybirdshere I think you sound fabulous and your friends sound like dickbeads. The only thing I would say is with having children it gets harder as you get older especially with PCOS. But you are right to prioritise what you want, saving a deposit and helping your mum is a extra bonus. If you don't feel that gap, then you don't need to fill it " because your friends say so".

Fansandblankets · 17/04/2023 10:49

You need new friends. They’re idiots and quite possibly jealous. Husband and kids aren’t the key to happiness!

given my time again I’d have neither!

Clementineorsatsuma · 17/04/2023 10:50

You're amazing!

And to the PP who says you need to move out- nonsense. She's fine where she is. Suits them all so why MENS what isn't broken.

Live your life and ditch your Mean Girl 'friends'!

GettingStuffed · 17/04/2023 10:50

Your life sounds a lot better than mine, by the time I was 29 I was a mum to 3 and have never had a career

MrsCremuel · 17/04/2023 10:55

They can fuck right off. You are doing great, it’s not the 1950s where you have to be married fgs. New more open minded friends needed I think!

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2023 10:56

The only criterion is - are you happy?

Your achievements sound great to me. It could be the very 'skewed' company you are keeping - unhealthily competitive and stressed about status etc. These attitudes are highly contagious though and it takes a bit of perspective to judge how you yourself feel about your life.

GeraltsBathtub · 17/04/2023 10:57

Notyetthere · 17/04/2023 08:55

I don't think you are a failure.

I think most people on here have missed OP's subsequent drip feed that part of the 'concern' from her friends was that they knew about her having PCOs and the difficulty of conceiving the later she left it in life. Without this the OP original message lacks the context. Unless you expressed to them that you would like to have children and that their genuine concern comes from this, maybe? Maybe they weren't very tactful about how they conveyed it to you?

I really doubt it’s coming from genuine care about the PCOS. The symptoms and severity vary from woman to woman and most women with PCOS are able to conceive nowadays. I have PCOS too and my endocrinologist told me that (in our area anyway) access to fertility treatment is expedited for PCOS patients.

Tabby87 · 17/04/2023 10:58

Your friends are being very, very weird.

the80sweregreat · 17/04/2023 10:58

Most people I know who have chosen not to have any children are certainly better off all round. ( I've always found this to be the case anyway. )
I love my own two, who are now late 20s, but it is relentless and worrying and seems even more difficult these days too. I think that many , (including one of my own sons) probably won't bother to have them , for many reasons. Which I totally understand tbh. I don't blame people and certainly wouldn't 'judge ' them for it. It's just narrow mindedness a lot of the time or being told ' this is the normal way of doing things' because we did , which is just rubbish.

Coffeetree · 17/04/2023 10:58

MrsCremuel · 17/04/2023 10:55

They can fuck right off. You are doing great, it’s not the 1950s where you have to be married fgs. New more open minded friends needed I think!

Her friends aren't married either.

LudicrouslyCapaciousBag · 17/04/2023 10:58

GeraltsBathtub · 17/04/2023 10:57

I really doubt it’s coming from genuine care about the PCOS. The symptoms and severity vary from woman to woman and most women with PCOS are able to conceive nowadays. I have PCOS too and my endocrinologist told me that (in our area anyway) access to fertility treatment is expedited for PCOS patients.

Because women with PCOS are more likely to need fertility treatment! You’ve contradicted your own point.

MsRosley · 17/04/2023 10:59

Yes, you need better friends. Life will knock a few corners off their smug self-satisfaction.

247achybreakyheart · 17/04/2023 11:00

FictionalCharacter · 17/04/2023 02:01

They’re jealous because they’re tied down and you’re free!

100% this- that’s exactly what I was going to say! You can do whatever u like whenever u like and don’t have to answer to anyone! I’d bet anything it’s pure jealousy on their part and I know it’s easier said than done but I would maybe try n find some friends you have more in common with? I’m so sorry about your past relationship & it’s so understandable that your taking ur time & maybe a bit nervous- if anyone who had been through that and said they weren’t nervous to get back into a relationship- they would be liars!
Good luck & enjoy wherever your travels take u to nxt! Xxx

FlyWildAndFree · 17/04/2023 11:01

Why can't we applaud single women instead of shaming them?
What a wonderful example to our younger generation a woman happily taking care of herself, instead of the shit show of relationships that miserably exist.

LatteLady · 17/04/2023 11:02

This thread has had me raging, I am 64, no children and no partner. Am I a failure, no, I am not and neither are you. You sound like a lovely level headed woman with her head screwed on and frankly those women are not your friends or if they are, then they have very low aspirations. If there is a lid for your pot, then you will find it, if not, then continue to live your very best life, be happy and make marvellous memories whilst seeking new and nicer friends.

YippieKayakOtherBuckets · 17/04/2023 11:10

ThanksItHasPockets · 17/04/2023 09:16

OP, you are not a failure. You deserve huge credit not only for the achievements that you have listed but also for getting out of an emotionally abusive relationship. It takes courage to be willing to move back home, ready to regroup before you approach the next phase of your life.

Please just be really really careful about taking any extreme action as a result of this thread. MN is VERY trigger-happy when it comes to advising OPs to cut people off - there is a reason why LTB is a MN cliché and why there are so many threads about people who feel very lonely. Yes, it's possible that your friends are absolute bitches and that you should get better friends. It's also possible that you are slowly growing apart. Nevertheless you need to think very carefully before you send them 'witty' retorts composed by bored MNers or passive-aggressive quotations. Your friends have clearly hit several nerves with you - is it because they wanted to be cruel or is it because they are perceptive and know you well enough to know what your deep anxieties are, however clumsily they have expressed them or however painful it was to hear them articulated by someone else?

Maybe it is time to move on from these people, but I can't tell you whether that is the case and neither can anyone else on this thread. Please just remember that while this thread is entertainment for most people posting here, it's your life and you are the one who has to live it once the thread has died. Don't do anything hasty that you might regret because you have been whipped up by the crowd. Good luck Flowers

This is a really wise post and I hope OP doesn’t miss it in amongst all the ‘ditch the bitches’ cheerleading.

MK85 · 17/04/2023 11:12

The intervention was because you are not married with children? That's none if their business . Do your 'friends' , not realise
you don't have to follow what they are doing in life. Life is your own journey and your path to carve. It's not for them to try and steer you. I'd be telling them to f**k off. What kind of friends are they discussing your life behind your back and claiming your off track cause your not married with children. Jesus christ

GeraltsBathtub · 17/04/2023 11:21

LudicrouslyCapaciousBag · 17/04/2023 10:58

Because women with PCOS are more likely to need fertility treatment! You’ve contradicted your own point.

Many women without PCOS need fertility treatment too, but have to wait 6, 12 months of trying before being able to get it so in some ways OP is better off that she already has an idea about her fertility that other women might not. But the point was that having PCOS doesn’t mean that if OP isn’t married at 29 she’s so far off track that her friends need to stage an intervention about her fertility (which is weird enough on its own without being incorrect).Women with PCOS can and do conceive through their 30s and into their 40s just like other women!

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 17/04/2023 11:22

You sound like me (I'm 33). Would I swap my lifestyle for having children, currently? Fuck no. The fact they did "an intervention" suggests they are jealous of your lifestyle whilst they're covered in sicked-up Ella's Kitchen muck and not getting any sleep. It's fine if that's for them. It's find if that's not for you. It's not fine for them to neg you to make you feel as shit as they feel about themselves.

avocadotofu · 17/04/2023 11:24

Your life sounds great, you're definitely not a failure. Your friends sound awful, it sounds like you need new ones.

Chipperfish · 17/04/2023 11:39

'they said they wanted to just make sure I stayed on the right track'

Well who is to say what the right track is? Not everyone wants a Barratts starter home, him indoors and 2.4 children by the age of 30! Perhaps you have moved in with your mum while you consider joining a lesbian commune or retraining as an MI5 agent? Perhaps you are prioritising other things? You sound great and lovely, and in no way a failure - and you have done a hell of a lot with your 20s and had the strength to make the choices that are right for you, including taking the time to get over a previous relationship and making sensible economic choices. Unless you have been pouring your heart out to them every night for the last few years that you are miserable about your life, its a bit of an overreach, even from friends.

The only thing I would say, as a fellow PCOS sufferer is think about your fertility and its possible impact on your future now. By that I dont mean get pregnant asap by some random for fear of missing the boat, but just to be aware of your PCOS in the background, prioritise your weight, health and exercise and medication if neccessary now, so if you do find a partner and want to have children you are more likely to succeed in conceiving or being eligible for fertility assistance.