Well fuck me pink and call me Rosie. AIBU?

[TooBigForMyBoots]

Do you know that Belfast and NI are in the British Isles? Are you aware that some British people claim they do not know that NI is in the same timezone as the rest of the UK?

YABU = You can't expect British people to know the history and geography of their country.
YANBU = Of course British people know this stuff. Anyone who says otherwise is having you on.

JaneJeffer what does “purely geographical” mean? There is no such thing as “purely geographical” without underlying political and social structures of knowledge and power.

It turns out I'm massively ignorant in a different direction because I had to look up what the Joe Biden references earlier in the thread were about. It turns Biden is visiting Ireland at the moment and literally every single one of us Brits is fuming about it, for reasons currently unspecified. Who knew?😆

My cousin’s ex didn’t know where Scotland was. And I know someone else who couldn’t point to where she lived on a map of Britain.

Although when I was a child I thought that Torquay was somewhere abroad.

Has it ever occurred to you that you and your circle may not be the only people living in NI?

Well done for looking at my map @VeniVidiWeeWee 🏅

Ask the Ordnance Survey about that not me.

WTAF is this thread about? Has the op done a survey of how many people think a specific thing, or is this in reference to something on the site? Or just a general weird outpouring of nonsense?

*referred.

If you are from the UK I would say basic information is the geography (including time zones) capital cities and political systems of the four UK nations. I’m very surprised grown adults wouldn’t know that.

Keep up!

Exactly. Theres AROUND half that say they are british and the other half are normal - sorry, Irish. I have the future in laws all coming down here on coronation day cos they cannot stomach the pomp of the other side.

I mean, yes - the Ordnance Survey in Ireland was literally a militarist and colonialist endeavour.

You sound like you think you're rather superior.

Delightful aren't you.

I agree with PPs that sneering at people who don't know something is nasty and uncalled for.

So @Jourdain11 didn't know about time zones. Now she (?) does. Cool. Someone learned something today. Well done MN

It reminds me of when I said (years ago now) that I didn't realise Scotland had a different education system to England. I'd never thought about it, I had no reason to know. Yet some twat kept bleating on about how I should have known, and if I didn't know why hadn't I ever googled it to educate myself.
As it wasn't something I'd ever needed to know/think about it had never occurred to me to Google it!

@DownNative why would i need to know about speed signs? I've never to been to Ireland/NI. And if I ever visit I can't drive anyway. So I don't need to know about them.

We all have different things we know about, and different things we would consider common knowledge.

But you can only know stuff if you learn it. I've never had a reason to learn that.

I met an English person who corrected me and called Emgland Hell, whose view is correct? It's not really a subjective thing. The country has a name - Ireland just like England is called England.

I don't particularly care what a bloody Census says, I'm not Irish. If I was Irish then I would be Irish. I don't say that nastily, having been in a relationship with an actual Irish man. I'm just stating that I know of very few people in NI personally who would say they are Irish. Except those wanting an Irish passport because its quicker apparently 🙄

If you've never learnt about it though, how do you know you don't know about it in the first place to ask questions or read up on it?!

Handy though

It's no worse than the arrogant southerners, who insist that clock changes wouldn't have a negative effect on the north of the country -= kids going to school in the dark, etc.

@TooBigForMyBoots the Canary Islands and Madeira are also in the same time zone. Makes travelling much easier, no jet lag.

The majority of Northern Ireland would refer to themselves as 'northern Irish or British'rather than Irish hence they've voted to remain part of British isles rather than a United ireland.

I am Northern Irish.

And the other side of the falls road there would rather drop dead in the river than class themselves British. Over half of people currently in NI identify as Irish. Your post is just surrounding the people in your circle. My DP is Irish from NI but has friends who are British in NI. Neither side knock the other.

I am doing a survey on how many Mnetters believe that NI is in a different time zone than the rest of the UK.

What do you think @RiktheButler?

While that is the position of the Irish Government, the term British Isles is still widely understood in strictly geographical terms. It's the oldest surviving name for the entire archipelago. It consists of 6,000 different islands.

Type in British Isles in Google and what you get is the image attached as the first result. This is not "coloniser language" given its NOT a territorial claim of any description.

No-one is stopping you calling it the British and Irish Isles, you know.

In UK law, we have a different term for all islands that's British territory - British Islands. That includes Northern Ireland as well.

Type in British Islands and what you get is the second image attached as the first result.