Well fuck me pink and call me Rosie. AIBU?

[TooBigForMyBoots]

Do you know that Belfast and NI are in the British Isles? Are you aware that some British people claim they do not know that NI is in the same timezone as the rest of the UK?

YABU = You can't expect British people to know the history and geography of their country.
YANBU = Of course British people know this stuff. Anyone who says otherwise is having you on.

Glad you enjoyed it @isitshe. Good manners cost nothing and I am glad that most people think IANBU.

To be fair to them, there are parts of the UK where they're probably not in the same century as everybody else DP's home village for a start.

I live on the Isle of Wight was asked by a visitor recently, in all seriousness, was the Isle of Wight still part of the U.K now we had left the E.U 🤔
Some people come to the island and think it's abroad wtf? But one of the daftest things was recently on Ebay, I wanted to order some freezer bag clips and the postage came up at £5.49 2nd class. I contacted the company thinking it was a typo but no, it was correct 'it's because it has to travel over water like the Channel Islands'. Needless to say I didn't buy them but found an identical set of ten for £3.50 free p&p.
How does that even make sense?

I sold a dress to someone in Jersey via eBay recently. The postage was more than posting to the mainland. I thought this was normal?

Being from NI I have experienced all these things when at uni in the south of England. ‘Are you jet lagged from the time difference’ ‘do you use euros?’ ‘Do you have a different passport’ many didn’t know NI existed

Yeah....but place-names are not necessarily meant to be completely literal. But all of Northern Ireland is more northerly than all of the Republic of Ireland.

But then you knew that Northern Ireland's name was originally from a time when the ROI was called Southern Ireland....didn't you?

If you're going to make a quip.....well, I'm struggling to find Northern Island on a map. Can ye help?! 🧐

You're still wrong. If NI was part of Great Britain it wouldn't need "... and northern Ireland". Great Britain does not include Northern Ireland. The United Kingdom does.

Yes, exactly! Because Great Britain is an island, which comprises England, Scotland and Wales.

Northern Ireland isn't on the island, so it's not part of Great Britain, just the same as it's not part of mainland Europe or Greenland.

in the so-called feminist section asking about the time of an event, whether Belfast has BST or not.

So this is a TAAT. And it’s not so much a question of time zones, but actually about whether one of the devolved nations of the UK adopting summer time.

It’s not a totally ignorant question - in Australia, for example, while Eastern Standard Time is the same for Victoria, NSW, and Queensland, Queensland has in the past refused summer time (Daylight Saving in Australian lingo).

So although the east coast of Australia is geographically the same time zone, in the summer, Queensland has a different time from the rest of the east coast.

What a nasty first post.

I live on the Isle of Wight was asked by a visitor recently, in all seriousness, was the Isle of Wight still part of the U.K now we had left the E.U 🤔
Friend of mine was just back from a holiday on the IoW. Other friend asked her which side of the road they drive on there

Hoisted by my own petard (and dyslexia)! And I will return the favour: all of Northern Ireland is more northerly than all of the Republic of Ireland is incorrect.

Actually it's quite a serious point that so few people in the UK know much about our own history. I was really fortunate to take schools council history, which I think only ran for a few years during the transition from o levels to GCSEs.

I thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

No thanks.

Many of us may agree with the principle of your OP but I don't think many agree that starting this thread was a good idea.

Why @JenniferBarkley?

I know I'm not the one who you've directed the question to, but some wouldn't consider implicitly shaming people for a lack of knowledge to be particularly "good manners".

Again, the point I'm making is that Northern Ireland and Great Britain are literally the United Kingdom together. The two are not separate, but United as one sovereign country in the same way the different kingdoms of France were United into One country we today call France.

Without that, GB is simply a Kingdom of Great Britain.

You really need to refresh your English language skills because I provided the definition of "and" in the context of the UK. On top of pointing out you're blatantly ignoring the keyword "United".

Seas don't necessarily separate one bit of land from another as explained also. Madiera is not a separate country from mainland Portugal and Shetland Island is not a separate country from mainland UK. They're both examples of the sea as connectors since they both form a single sovereign country respectively.

None of this should be difficult to grasp.....

And yet you've failed to demonstrate that my statement that "all of Northern Ireland is more northerly than all of the Republic of Ireland" is incorrect.

I've put the keywords in bold.

The reality is that a small bit of County Donegal is slightly more northerly than all of Northern Ireland.

But it cannot be said that ALL of the Republic of Ireland is more northerly than all of Northern Ireland. Fact is, twenty-five counties of the Republic of Ireland is further south than Northern Ireland.

I hope that's clearer.

Wow, what a circular argument! Bottom line GMT +1 applies in the whole island of Ireland but isn't called BST in part.
If NI didn't have same time zone would you not expect BBC news (yeah there is licence fee in NI) to be called News at 6 in GB, 5 in NI?
Spanish national broadcaster gives both the time on the mainland/baleraics and Canary Islands separately.

So many people know very little about NI and it's history and I have long since ceased being surprised at the batshit comments.

Well, quite.

But it cannot be said that ALL of the Republic of Ireland is more northerly than all of Northern Ireland. Fact is, twenty-five counties of the Republic of Ireland is further south than Northern Ireland.
Well duh!

Because it's a goady TAAT that's getting at one particular poster.

That was directed AT you OP, it seemed like you started the thread solely for your own amusement

I’ve been rolling my eyes all week at people asserting that Biden didn’t visit the UK.

I've yet to meet anyone who thinks this.