Why is there so much sneering at Americans with European ancestry?

[BrBa]

I don’t understand! I identify with all my ancestors whether they came as religious refugees or early colonisers, were already indigenous to the region or brought in as slaves.

Yours
Swiss, German, Native American North, Central and South, Sephardic, Irish, South East African, Scottish, Acadian/French, and English

Yes I know. I've met him several times. The "D" somehow fell off when editing. But indeed, my husband would never refer to him as anything other than Michael D. But I'm on less familiar terms with him and also didn't think anyone on here would know who I was referring to unless I added the surname. But I do apologise for the "D" having fallen off, that was a mistake.

Hahahaha nothing gets Mumsnet going that topics that relate to the US.

And it’s so funny they way everyone tries to philosophically explain Americans lol

What's he like? I was in college with his son.

Americans have an unfortunate habit of trying to explain to everyone else though.

Calm down petal. Who hasn't met Michael D? Ive drunk his wine at the Aras, its not a claim to fame here!!

I couldn't care less how many people you know in Ireland. You weren't here for Bidens visit, you haven't a notion. Stop trying to claim you do, and that you know better than people who live here. ffs.

It's not a British only site, its open to all.

I never said I knew better than you or anyone else - on the contrary, I've repeatedly said that people clearly have different experiences. And I never said meeting Michael D is a claim to fame (and note that I didn't just say "meeting" but being a guest of honour at a number of events, not just swigging wine as one of the crowd, FFS). Was just trying to reply to your dismissing my Irish husband's right to have any opinion. But oh well, you live in Ireland and (clearly) drink down the local pub, so you must know best.
You're the only one who has tried to diminish my right to an opinion, or rather that of my Irish relatives or friends, because it doesn't happen to match your own. While you're busy being a wannabe Brit on Mumsnet, which I actually find quite hilarious.
None of my Irish mum friends would dream of posting on here. I do because although not a Brit I live here, so discussions of every day life in the UK affect my family. Not sure what you're doing here, since you only accept opinions of Irish people living in Ireland, but whatever floats yer boat.
You seem a bit insecure in your national identity. But whatever.
Going to stop this discussion now. We've both told each other to feck off (you first, I responded) so let's leave it at that.
Meanwhile, lots of valuable contributions from others on this thread, British and Irish :)
Very good thread, OP (before it got derailed).

Scarlet for you. Anyone can have an opinion...anyone that was here and actually understood what we were talking about, that is. So not you.

Did you seriously call all foreigners on MN "wannabee Brits"? You absolute spanner.

It was only right back at you since you keep saying on a BRITISH site that nobody other than those with Irish nationality who live in Ireland and were there last week have any right to express an opinion.
The barefaced cheek of you.
I assume you don't ever express an opinion on ANYTHING relating to something that happens in the UK (or anywhere else in the world), since you don't live here, so clearly can't have the first clue? And I'll hold you to that...

Another thread complaining about those awful Americans.

Petal is pretty ignorant. Not having that. I'm Irish and proud of it. I've english relatives and i'm proud of them too.

I live in Ireland

Thank you. I was ignoring that as there was so much else that was ignorant in her posts. But yes, "petal" is the height of ignorance unless used by someone where it's part of the dialect. And I've never actually been called that by an Irish person before. I don't mind so much when it's someone from the North of England as it's normal there, but otherwise it feels glued on.
Good for you for being proud of all your ancestry. That's how we're raising our children as well, who have several. And they are way more clued in to the history of their various heritages than some, it seems.

I haven't seen any Americans on this thread though? Only some people trying to ridicule them. And believe me, I'd be the first to point out the faults of Americans (or at least American society in general) but in this case I feel it's totally undeserved.

No, not seen anyone on the thread tbf. But they do have a habit of being more irish than the irish themselves. And then we eyeroll.

Well said!

And the thread got a lot more ridiculous after that (nothing to do with your post) 😂But you were spot on!

Just a random anecdote but i lived in France years ago, happened upon a girl called Erin. She gave me all the bollox about being Irish, without ever copping on that I was Irish. Ffs like.

Fair enough - I haven't come across that myself. They do dye rivers green for Paddy's day etc, but so does much of the rest of the world (to the affront of some Brits).

My husband has some distant relatives who have come over to trace their roots etc and have been very enthusiastic, but in general in a very affectionate way (and no leprechauns involved). The one exception was when we took his Dad's second cousin and his wife from NY to a really nice Michelin star restaurant and she ordered lamb (which was delicious, I had the same). She'd been asking for a "real Irish Stew" all day, but of course this isn't really a thing in Ireland but more of an American invention (in my husband's family lamb wasn't a thing at all, since they came from beef farming stock).

She turned her nose up at it saying that it was "fatty lamb" as it had been rendered in the fat, not US low calorie style. But to be fair, she was Polish-American, not Irish, and complained about everything from day one, while her husband, my FIL's cousin, was genuinely interested about everything.

She also complained loudly about how you couldn't get a "real cappuccino" in Italy! Apparently in their local cafe in Brooklyn, the cup was first coated in sugar. She was horrified that the Italians didn't know this was how it was supposed to be done!😂

That's one of those pseudo-Irish American names that my husband hates (he's very conservative)! "Eireann just means Irish - not a real name ffs".
Along with place names like "Tara" or "Shannon". Or last names, like "Ryan".
I actually really like some of those (including Erin), and would have liked to use Ryan as a middle name for one of our boys as it was a family name on his side, but nope. "It's a surname, not a first name!"
Of course in the last 20 years (or more) that has all changed. We've all taken on the American custom of using place names (India, Brooklyn etc) or surnames (Carter, Cooper, Jackson, Harrison, McKenzie), or wilder made-up ones. Even my husband has got used to them, although he still prefers traditional ones with traditional spellings.

Is it just Irish? Are we freaks of nature?

Christ almighty. Those names!

That said, my daughter has an unusual foreign name. But it does have meaning for me.

I think you'd get on with my hubby 😂😂😂

So do ours. But very traditional in each of our cultures, and spelled in the traditional way. Each named after one of our grandfathers. And they're both very proud of them.
They do have to keep spelling them (even the one with the Irish name, because it's one that consistently gets misspelled in the UK (not to mention the US) in one of several ways.

I have a difficult name for British people. It's really annoying. But not their fault either. It's a different language ffs!

Sorry, don't mean to be rude x