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To not expect to pay excessive amount as we're family.

601 replies

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 14:15

In laws brought themselves a caravan on a haven site a year ago. Decided to spend some pension money on it.
the site fees have renewed and have gone up just like everything else in life.
They don't rent it out and we only use it as family.
Anyway father in law has just charged his own son £75 for 3 nights to use it. He owed me money for ordering him a new tablet and doing him a favour so took the money out of that which I couldn't afford to lose.

Before the season started he mentioned charging £25 a day but nothing else happened and no mention of it again before we went.

He's also charged brother in law £150 to use but they paid upfront.

Am i being unreasonable to feel this is a lot to charge your own children and £10 or so a day would be sufficient. I'm not convinced I spend £25 a day heating and lighting my 3 bed home. They get their passes included with the caravan for 10 people.

Husband won't challenge it because it won't make any difference.

OP posts:
StuartBroadshairband · 11/04/2023 18:49

ginislife · 11/04/2023 14:34

My friend has a caravan on a Haven site and I know she charges £600 a week because one owned by Haven is £1000 per week.

I must remember not to remind Haven that I stayed for four nights for £49, £62, £54 etc as some random person on the Internet claims they should have charged me over £1000 a time.

Or maybe you're talking bollocks.

2bazookas · 11/04/2023 18:52

It's the oddness of a set rate

A set rate isn't odd at all; its the fairest way to do it; then everybody knows in advance what the charge is. (You were TOLD, but you misread it as a "joke".)

The owners have increased site fees; increased fuel bills; increased CT. It's perfectly reasonable to expect those who share the use to share the expenses.

jannier · 11/04/2023 18:53

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 15:16

They aren't short of cash and I'm not sure profiting from your children is right.
we haven't been told about paying until after the event. previously it was mentioned in passing.
I have no problem paying a contribution if asked in advance. 25 a day seems steep. Our kids are older too so most of the entertainment is too old for them too.
we went because kids wanted to go and wasn't any fresh discussion of payment.
I'm aware booking with haven is far more but I'd then choose where I wanted.

But he told you it's not his fault if you decided he didn't mean it. Was he supposed to draw up a letting agreement? So pay £500 and go where you choose next time. Even the basic 3 night sun holidays cost £150 by the time you add on the passes when I went last year.

Appleass · 11/04/2023 18:55

Why should they pay the site fees and you not contribute ? You are a greedy, entitled,CF

toomuchlaundry · 11/04/2023 18:57

@StuartBroadshairband in school holidays? And was that for a family of 4?

Figgygal · 11/04/2023 18:58

You're taking the piss right? A weekend away over Easter passes included could have cost you £400-500 quid you've had a bargain

jannier · 11/04/2023 18:59

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/04/2023 14:44

Husband won't challenge it because it won't make any difference.

That's because he's not paying it, you are.

I assume you have separate finances from that comment so at the least he should be going halves. Why isn't he?

Or perhaps he thinks it's a fair rate and doesn't agree with his wife....as well as knowing the price was discussed previously.

toomuchlaundry · 11/04/2023 19:00

@StuartBroadshairband I have just looked at Haven site in Cornwall, 3 nights from this Friday for a family of 4 ranges from £300 - £400

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 19:04

ReadersD1gest · 11/04/2023 18:39

Do you help them, at all? You don't seem so great at the old give and take thing, do you?

@Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme yes actually. Airport runs, entertain for dinner, help with letters they want written, find best prices for things, help them move, decorating to name some of the stuff we've helped with.

OP posts:
diddl · 11/04/2023 19:04

How are they profiting though Op?

Katey1980 · 11/04/2023 19:05

I can’t imagine my parents would charge me and my family for a stay if they had a caravan, however nominal the amount. I have a holiday home and I don’t charge family, although they do sometimes give me a bit of money anyway, realising that a property costs more when it’s being used. He clearly told you the price, which really probably only amounts to a token towards the overall price and covers additional energy costs when it is in use. It doesn’t seem greedy to me.

Mumwomansisterdaughter · 11/04/2023 19:06

£25 is nothing compared to rental cost that would be 5x that . Just stop moaning

toomuchlaundry · 11/04/2023 19:06

How old are they @Boop1e?

clpsmum · 11/04/2023 19:08

MorrisZapp · 11/04/2023 14:19

We pay per night in my dad's caravan, what kind of person wouldn't pay? 25 quid a night is extremely good value. They pay site fees, bills,maintenance, wear and tear etc. If you don't like it then you could try finding somewhere cheaper to stay?

This! That's brilliant value wish I could find a three night break for £75 with passes included

BloodyThursday · 11/04/2023 19:11

We had a holiday place. £3600 site fees plus council taxi (wasn't a caravan) so whilst we were paying out why should we let everyone else get a free holiday? I think £25 a night was a great price.

nomoredriving · 11/04/2023 19:11

@BraveFaceScaredInside give me all the 🍪 you want, but you can't afford the caravan can you? 🤷‍♀️

toomuchlaundry · 11/04/2023 19:12

If parents just had basic pension would people still expect them to pay for their adult DC holidays?

bellsbuss · 11/04/2023 19:16

We looked at buying a caravan on a Haven site 10 years ago and the site fees were 7K so £25 a night is extremely cheap

Snaaaaacks · 11/04/2023 19:20

Your level of entitlement is astounding, they pay thousands (I'm sure) for the caravan and you are moaning about paying the lowly amount of £25 a night for your entire family to enjoy it. You couldn't even get a campsite for that these days! Good luck finding your £10 a night accommodationfor your next break. Oh and just because someone is comfortable does not mean they owe you everything for free, our in-laws are very comfortable, I don't expect anything from them, they've earned their money, we earn ours, I'm not stood with the begging bowl moaning!

Moaning5 · 11/04/2023 19:21

£25/day won’t touch their site fees/Maintenance/depreciation - it’s literally to cover their excess utilities that they incur by you being there.

If you don’t want to pay to use their holiday home, then buy your own holiday home or just don’t go.

BraveFaceScaredInside · 11/04/2023 19:23

nomoredriving · 11/04/2023 19:11

@BraveFaceScaredInside give me all the 🍪 you want, but you can't afford the caravan can you? 🤷‍♀️

Not outright in cash no. I equally own my own home outright - no mortgage, Own a new car outright, and have plenty spare monthly.

So while I could afford to have one if I chose to save up/get a loan, I prefer to treat my 3 children and 5 grandchildren regularly, rather then rarely.

You can't take it with you.

funnelfan · 11/04/2023 19:23

its a well known phenomenon that people take the piss if they get something free, but value it much more if they pay a nominal price. If your PIL wanted to make a profit, they’d be renting it out for a heck of a lot more than £25 a day. Haven even do a service for caravan owners where they manage it for you, they make it very easy. I know some folk who do it to make enough to cover their fees for the year.

Snaaaaacks · 11/04/2023 19:26

Boop1e · 11/04/2023 19:04

@Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme yes actually. Airport runs, entertain for dinner, help with letters they want written, find best prices for things, help them move, decorating to name some of the stuff we've helped with.

So basically what any good son or daughter does 🤣. We do all those things yet we don't get free holidays, I need to have a strong word with my parents and in-laws

nomoredriving · 11/04/2023 19:26

@BraveFaceScaredInside but you can't afford a holiday home....

My point is, that letting the OP have it at a vastly reduced rate is actually a lovely thing.

How that can be turned round as nasty, is beyond me.

As they say

No good deed goes unpunished

BraveFaceScaredInside · 11/04/2023 19:31

nomoredriving · 11/04/2023 19:26

@BraveFaceScaredInside but you can't afford a holiday home....

My point is, that letting the OP have it at a vastly reduced rate is actually a lovely thing.

How that can be turned round as nasty, is beyond me.

As they say

No good deed goes unpunished

Nowhere did I say it was 'nasty'

I just think it would be lovelier if they didn't charge, and that I wouldn't Grin

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