Unisex public toilets

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I don’t really understand why these are becoming popular.

I don’t have any issues with members of the LGBTQ community using whichever toilet they feel comfortable in but I generally don’t want to use a toilet that a bunch of men have pissed all over the loo seat, toilet, floor etc.

I went out for the day at the weekend and have walked out of multiple toilets that were so foul I wouldn’t use them. Some has loo seats showered with urine, others had such soggy floors that I thought the bottoms of my trousers would be one soaked in urine if I used them. I also pushed open the (unlocked) cubicle in one toilet to find a man sat on the loo… revolting and, I’d imagine, quite frightening if I’d been a young girl trying to use the toilet.

My children love eating in Five Guys bad ask to go each school holiday as a treat. I’ve told them I’m never going again because of the unisex toilets.

AIBU?

I went to a restaurant in London a few weeks ago and there were unisex toilets with a shared long sink and mirror area and 4 cubicles. I came out of the cubicle, washed my hands and a man came out of another cubicle and stood really close to me at the sink and made eye contact with me in the mirror. We were completely alone in an enclosed space and I don't know if he was deliberately trying to intimidate me but he did. I was scared and turned away and left as soon as I could.

Never going back there again - it really ruined my evening.

I have a problem with dirty toilets, not unisex ones. Last time I was in London I went to the Mithra museum. They toilets there were unisex and beautifully clean.

On planes, often in cafés/restaurants they have shared toilets, and I've never found it a problem.

Work (modern building, all white collar professionals) has 2 individual unisex toilets on one floor, 2 separate M/F facilities on the other.
Mixed ones constantly have the seat up & while not awful, smell like mens toilets. No bins either.
They're properly unisex as in 'male default'.
Women automatically head downstairs to the loo.

If people feel they're necessary, I'm glad the unisex cubicles are there for them, but I also want facilities that I'm comfortable in.

I think the cleanliness issue is more a reflection on the business or whoever is providing the facility than the user and if it wasn't up to scratch hygiene wise then I'd be complaining they aren't being checked and cleaned regularly enough. I do think unisex toilets should be individual rooms and fully enclosed with shared spaces open to the public rather than cubicles where possible for privacy and safety. I understand why people might be concerned about assaults in unisex bathrooms but I know many women who have been assaulted by other women in women's only bathrooms so i don't think that yet are necessarily that much safer. Even in my gym the womens change rooms have code access, but if someone wanted to force their way in when it's empty at night that's not going to stop them. I also think the concerns about men placing spy cameras is a bit of a stretch considering male domestics clean women's toilets regularly so there would always be access to them to do that if someone was very determined. Nevermind that accessible bathrooms are nearly always unisex and the camera concern doesn't seem to be as big an issue as its being made out to be. In an ideal world I think there would be fully enclosed male, female and unisex bathrooms so people could choose their preference. In my workplace we have a unisex bathroom and it's never caused an issue.

No regard for the man you walked in on?

I don't understand this level of being scared in an area...

I want to go into the ladies. I want my daughter to go into the ladies. No other woman should have the right to take that right away from us.

Maybe you are too young to be scared. That would have also freaked my out and I am damned if I am going to let my daughter lose her spidery senses around men.

The ones in my work are like this and they're great. They are completely self contained and enclosed so no gaps at the top or bottom. I prefer them cos you get more privacy. Also they're open plan and right off the ground floor reception area with a glass door leading to them so I feel very safe using them.

Do you genuinely know a lot of women that have been assaulted by other women? Not a goady question as I know it can happen but I don’t know any women that have been assaulted by other women like this. I’m a lesbian and spend a lot of time around lesbian and bi women yet none have been assaulted by other women in public spaces like this.

What kind of plane have you been on that has a row of cubicles and sinks?

Why have they become popular you ask op. well I shall tell you why there are a few males that insist they are woman and want to be treated as such regardless of what anyone else says or the concerns real woman and girls have

to pander to their desires and delusions female spaces are being eroded this is just one way that they are

All the Five Guys loos I've been in have been extremely clean. I generally prefer a separate room with my own basin. Can rinse hands while wiping if it gets a bit messy and it's easier for changing tampons etc (sorry if that's TMI).

What don’t you understand aibuaibuaibu

that a woman can’t be assaulted in a public space, that a woman would struggle to fight off a man, that a woman just doesn’t want to have to deal with men acting in an intimidating way

I agree with this.

I don't see a problem when they're individual cubicles. Women's toilets are often as nasty as male toilets anyway.

Individual cubicles are the way forward. Totally avoids the dreaded 'eye contact of doom'.

I've been to a couple of things where this has struck up a horrible problem. Once in the lakes in a big pub on bank holiday, they shut the toilets and only let people use mixed portaloos (?) I was taking my little girl to the loo and it was foul, reeked, and urine all over. Same again at a smallish family festival, mixed portaloos, there were streaks of urine up the back wall. Someone had deliberately pissed up the wall. Just another reason for separate sex loos.

I think now with the whole single sex space thing this just makes it easier. Women saying trans can't use the female toilets probably ruined it for everyone 🤷‍♀️
I don't like unisex toilets either, but because of the mess, the only ones I have been in are quality ones so not thin cubicle walls. Its also only been in public places, not at a workplace.

I hate them. We used in one in France and men were peeing with the doors open. There's no way I could let my daughter go in in her own. It was awful.

The ones in the hotel bar near my work are mostly used for people to shag in. Which is nice.

yanbu they are grim

Women saying trans can't use the female toilets probably ruined it for everyone

Surely it was the transwomen insisting on using the women's that ruined it?

I'm in West Coast USA at the moment. So many toilets have been 'gender neutral' it's been absolutely hideous. Covered in pee and smelly.

I was in one in San Francisco and the lock was obviously flimsy as a massive man (well over 6 feet) managed to barge in as I was mid stream. It was scary, humiliating and upsetting. Imagine the shock and having to jump up and try and cover yourself as you're still going. The man in question didn't look even vaguely mortified and as I was trying to pull my knickers and trousers up just kept coming towards me and said in a very relaxed attitude, oh the door mustnt have been locked.

The risks of unisex toilets are well known. Fair enough if other women want to use them and put themselves at risk but frankly they can fuck off for advocating them as causing no harm, they so obviously do as I now have first hand experience of, no woman should be put in that situation. And as for men's toilets not being dirtier than women's. Well that just bullshit.

Disabled toilets have always been unisex, I can think back to specific ones in a shopping centre about 30 years ago. I’ve usually found those to be cleaner.