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Is my husband right to be embarrassed when I serve soup for lunch to guests

467 replies

MusicLass · 09/04/2023 06:44

This is a bit of a long-running joke in our house, but underpinned by genuine feelings…

i like making soups from scratch (E.g vegetable, lentil, minestrone) and try to make them tasty, nutritious and filling. For some visitors I make soups for lunch or dinner, for the same reasons above, plus I can make them in advance and just reheat giving me more time to be attentive to guests. I also either bake or buy nice bread and butter to go with the soup. Something for pudding would be offered too.

DH gets embarrassed when I serve soup to guests, saying it’s not proper food and it’s not being hospitable. He would expect a pasta or rice dish round someone’s house, or meat.

He happily eats soup when it’s just us as a family.

AIBU to serve soup to guests? Or is he right? Generally he is more sensitive about social etiquette than me. He’s also from a Mediterranean culture, which could be a factor here.

Thanks for reading and helping us to settle this!

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DunePeyton · 10/04/2023 23:44

I mean if you are grasping for the ladle every time a guest visits, I would say it’s a bit OTT.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 10/04/2023 23:58

Iwannatakearideonyourdiscostick · 10/04/2023 18:04

Soup is the perfect lunch, with bread for those who want it. Soup and a sandwich is two lunches. Confused

Eh? I’ve had soup and sandwiches dozens of times.

Mamanyt · 11/04/2023 00:00

OK...I'm coming from this from a VERY "USA, Southern Girl" position. We're quite specific on what we call meals other than breakfast. "Dinner" refers to the larger, heavier meal of the day, whether is it served midday or evening. The lighter meal at midday is called lunch, with dinner in the evening. The heavier meal at midday is called dinner, with supper in the evening.

Given that, soup (with plenty of bread and butter, and/or maybe a salad) would be perfectly acceptable for lunch, if you specified a "light lunch" for those who may not be familiar with the nomenclature. IF you said "dinner," no matter which time of day, you'd better come up with something more substantial than soup, no matter how good it might be.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 11/04/2023 00:00

Michelle1964 · 10/04/2023 18:17

Did you actually read the original question? Did you even read the title to the question? The person clearly asked about lunch - in fact, dinner was not even mentioned. Your contribution to this topic is worthless.

Oh dear. Did this sound better in your head?

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 11/04/2023 00:03

BarbaraofSeville · 10/04/2023 18:56

Exactly.

It's bizarre how people can make such definitive statements about how soup can only be lunch but not dinner or is not suitable for guests when they have no information about what the soup is like or how much there is of it.

There's a whole load of soups [[https://www.taste.com.au/galleries/20-soups-filling-enough-meal/iade1fcw?page=15 that are a meal in itself, especially if served with nice bread, or another accompaniment like dumplings etc. Plus the OP is also serving pudding, then it's not like anyone is going to be short of food is it?

You do know that the OP actively asked for opinions, right?

a1poshpaws · 11/04/2023 00:24

YANBU - however my heart would sink into my boots if you served me soup, as I am a self-conscious eater and find soup very difficult to eat without at least some mess - either I get food stains around my mouth, or a dribble down my chin, or it drips onto the tablecloth between bowl and mouth!

stacyvaron · 11/04/2023 00:24

If I dropped round at a friends or was invited for a casual supper, I'd be pleased with a hearty soup and bread. Frankly, I'd be happy with someone taking the time and making the effort to cook for me. I come from a pretty working class background, so maybe that impacts my feelings on the matter, not sure.

DunePeyton · 11/04/2023 00:39

Class has about as much to do with the topic as bum fluff imo.

crazyaboutcats · 11/04/2023 01:42

I would be delighted but then I love soup even more so with with nice bakery or homemade bread and butter

My DH and a fair few friends are Mediterranean/East European and they all seem to have very strict rules around what is and isn't a soup and how and when it should be served

Mcal · 11/04/2023 04:22

Interesting topic.
I think it is a matter of culture but also context.
For a last minute lunch offer, maybe after a walk or some activity, I could consider offering a thick soup for lunch, in cold days. But I would probably try to make it a bit special and add good starters.
For a planned lunch or dinner typically I would go overboard, starters, first and second, one of which substantial. I encourage guests to skip whatever they might not like.
I am a Mediterranean husband, my wife is Asian, so we can offer variety.
If I think that a dish is not enough, I will volunteer to cook something extra without criticizing, and she does the same when I am cooking.
There are ways to keep it low effort beyond doing just soups. For instance, Bolognese freezes just fine, I make large batches, so I can whisk up a very decent pasta in 30 minutes while drinking a glass of wine and chatting with the guests. Seafood sauces can be frozen too, and a dash of white wine and some parsley will liven them up considerably with little effort.
In the end soups can taste a bit samey as a single dish. So it is a risky shot unless your guests happen to love what you came up with.

mustgetoffmn · 11/04/2023 05:12

My favourite food. Especially homemade and with bread. I’d be happy for dinner even though might feel a salad and afters even nicer afterwards. When I was a child lunch was the main meal and evening was high tea. I’d now find a cooked dinner midday too heavy. But isn’t the Mediterranean tradition to siesta afterwards? Yes he obviously should host his own guests and therefore Choose what he would think they’d expect. Embarrassed is a silly reaction imo.

sashh · 11/04/2023 06:08

I'm glad you settled the argument OP

Guess what I had for lunch yesterday?

Leek soup with home made bread. Hands up anyone else who made soup because of this thread.

RampantIvy · 11/04/2023 06:19

I did @sashh. Pasta e fagioli - a very substantial tomato, pasta and bean soup. Not a soup that you can drink, but very definitely one you need a spoon for.

PoseyFlump · 11/04/2023 06:40

pollyglot · 10/04/2023 21:20

Elle2018
Of course, you are welcome to my recipe...only it's a very ad hoc one, owing to the quantity I'm making, and guests' aversion to coriander. So basically it goes like this:
Fry together, in a couple of tablespoons of butter : one medium onion and 2 cloves of garlic, finely chopped, a heaped teaspoon of finely grated ginger, curry powder to taste-a couple of teaspoons or so, fresh coriander to taste. Fry until soft, add about a litre of chicken/vege stock, add 3-4 (about 750gm) kumara (sweet potatoes), though I have plenty in my garden so tend to use more, as they improve both flavour and texture. They should be in smallish cubes. Simmer until soft, cool, then add one can coconut cream. Whizz in food processor till creamy. Check for seasoning - despite the stock, it tends to need salt. Serve with chopped flat-leaf parsley and/or coriander on top, with a dob of sour cream and toasted sunflower seeds if you want to be truly decadent.
I make a big quantity at a time and freeze 3-4 containers for the winter. Nothing better by the fire!

This is just what I'm looking for. Have some sweet potatoes need eating and they are so good for you!

As a vegetable grower in cold UK I'm so jealous of your productive garden šŸ˜

Elle2018 · 11/04/2023 06:43

@pollyglot thank you so much

Exhaustedpanda · 11/04/2023 07:02

Would love soup for lunch but I wouldn’t expect it for dinner, as others have said it always seems more of a starter. If you’ve been invited round specifically for dinner that is.

I don’t think it would be ā€œembarrassingā€ either way though as you’ve made the effort still.

MRex · 11/04/2023 07:23

Soup and bread is fine and tasty. For guests I'd have some meat, cheese and salad out for anyone who fancies some in addition to the soup; it doesn't need to be complicated to prep and makes it all look more substantial. I'd skip dessert for lunch though.

Maggiethecat · 11/04/2023 07:28

Michelle1964 · 10/04/2023 18:17

Did you actually read the original question? Did you even read the title to the question? The person clearly asked about lunch - in fact, dinner was not even mentioned. Your contribution to this topic is worthless.

Never mind worthless contributions, this is just embarrassing

changeme4this · 11/04/2023 07:33

If you want to have a good homemade soup for Sunday dinner served with crusty bread etc, then you do you. It’s your night as cook to rest.

if hubby wants a full on roast or something, then he can pull the finger and be cook.

frankly if I was your visiting friend, I would really enjoy whatever you choose to serve up. And I would like to know what I could bring along to assist such as desserts…

sashh · 11/04/2023 08:26

@RampantIvy

I have just added carrot and smoked mackerel to the left over leek soup, so I will see what that is like later (it's in the slow cooker).

Sennelier1 · 11/04/2023 09:00

We love soup for lunch, do it all the time! For dinner I sometimes serve soup as a starter, not as the whole meal.

Busybeezs · 11/04/2023 11:32

I think soup is a great meal at lunch or dinner! As long as it's tasty and filling, I'd be thrilled to get it at a friend's house

MRSsqueak · 11/04/2023 12:08

fine for lunch but not for evening meal. if i was served soup for an evening meal i would be pretty hungry after

pollymere · 11/04/2023 14:01

I would probably say a "light lunch" when inviting guests. Many people still have their main meal at lunch time so this would be only appropriate as a starter for a luncheon. If you wish to serve this in the evening, I would offer it as a light supper rather than dinner. Dinner definitely had connotations of a large meal whether it be midday or in the evening.

Bored86 · 11/04/2023 16:44

Soup is a lunch meal or a starter. Shouldn’t really be served as a main evening meal.