Or is teaching 6 Yr old about crucixation out of order?

[Whostoblame]

I might be over reacting but after multiple nights on the trot sleeping no more than 45-60 mins at a time I'm at the end of my tether. 6 year old goes to a non dom school and we are agnostic/atheist at home. School have been teaching them about Jesus and Easter etc including how Jesus was crucified. I now have a sobbing child every night who can't get the pictures out if her mind (and I'm not surprised!!)and subsequently cant sleep from about midnight, crying. Aibu to complain to school that 6 is way too young to be taught this?!

I don't think it unreasonable to be taught about the crucifixion at age 6. Also even if you are of no religion, knowing about why Good Friday is a bank holiday and Easter important to a significant number of people is no bad thing.

Now, I don’t think this is altogether correct. John 20:14 (after saying his body was no longer in the tomb) “Having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Supposing him to be the gardener”

now why, looking at Jesus did Mary Magdalene who was one of the people who spent so much time with Jesus not recognise him
and mistake him as a Gardner if he appeared as a resurrection in his bodily form?

My daughter was shown a film of the crucifiction at roughly the same age. I was fucking ropable. This was by a bunch of evangelists allowed in by the school to proselytise. (I schooled her up on evolution and we got our own back. . .)

All those who say teaching about the crucifixion does or did no harm to young children , well, how do they know?
Children do not always confide in teachers or even their parents ,when something disturbs them.They might brood at night, have bad dreams, play out worries or exhibit poor behaviour.They cannot always articulate why and what has upset them.
I am sure that children with high levels of wellbeing, natural empathy, and quite normal reaction ,would find details of the crucifixion unsettling.It’s not appropriate to teach this.

Actually it’s entirely appropriate to teach this. Much of the culture of western civilisation involves this concept. People were crucified by an oppressive regime ) it is likely this included an historical person called Jesus) it is part of our language, culture and history. Kids really generally take this stuff in their stride. I was a very sensitive child- no effect, my son v sensitive - no effect.

it’s important kids learn this stuff, it’s important they learn of historical atrocities, it’s important they learn of things that shape society and individuals.

Given society today I am very pro kids learning how people have been treated historically. People who challenged the Jewish priests, really good Christian’s who didn’t bow down to Rome, women who didn’t fit in with what was expected of them.

Kids need to learn these things far more than many of the things pushed on them by adults these days.

knowing the Bible (whether you believe it as literal truth or not) and this history of Christianity is extremely valuable on many levels in western society.

At 6? Is it ok to teach your 6 yr old about the electric chair? Lethal injection? Hanging?

All those who say teaching about the crucifixion does or did no harm to young children , well, how do they know?
From personal experience, how do people "know" most things?

Just because it’s fact doesn’t mean it’s appropriate for a 6 year old?! There are a lot of “facts” about the world that we don’t share with 6 year olds.

“kids tend to love all that gory stuff”. Clearly you have no experience of sensitive children. Not all children are psychopaths.

Knowing Christianity and the larger abrahamic religions does explain the reasoning behind most atrocities and wars at least. Oh and it's a good starting point for explaining the flawed reasoning behind most bigotry.

Not all children are psychopaths
Now you're just being offensive. And extremely unintelligent. Just stop.

Being taught at 6 that there is a religious festival marked by some religions perfectly fine.

Being told as if it was fact that Jesus died for our sins, rose again and that he was brutally tortured and murdered probably not so much.

Opens kids up to wondering what the hell they've done that was so bad it travelled back in time and murdered a mild mannered Jewish man. It sure as shit would have my 5 year old reopening the question about whether his granny who died is coming back. And the boy asks questions very literally and needs all the details of everything and won't be fobbed off so it'd be a nightmare.

There is absolutely no reason to traumatise children with religious rhetoric, none at all.

my 5 year old reopening the question about whether his granny who died is coming back
And yet for whole generations of us there was no confusion at all. Isn't it strange?

I think you'll find you were indoctrinated. As was I. My children aren't, they get to ask questions.

I'm not sure it's that simple.

Much of the time, it really was. It certainly was in my case. And that was mainstream Catholicism.

Our lessons, as I’ve said, were literally called “Doctrine”.

Please explain how you think it is?

Your child has never seen a church or a historical building with a crucifix statue? Or even a crucifix necklace?!

I was thinking this myself as PP said, in Church today @Whostoblame . Babies and toddlers are there and there's a giant crucified Jesus above the altar. So they see it virtually from birth.

I think you'll find you were indoctrinated. As was I. My children aren't, they get to ask questions.

@Forgooodnesssakenow Ideally instruction should include the possibility to ask questions too (though maybe that's harder if they have a large class.)

I converted recently and I had to have a lot of instruction in the Faith from the Priest before I was baptised. I definitely asked a lot of questions.

And answers were based on what? A single 2000 year old text?

And should they? Or is it horrific imagery?

As a result of your comments, I think you're in your early twenties and don't have children.

I mean this is a valid point. I have never heard anyone having issues like this. Surely in the sort of environment that teaches a redirection as fact would also be teaching about the nature of Jesus and point of him doing the whole dying/resurrection thing to the extent even a 5year old would grasp Jesus (as explained by mainstream Christianity) in this situation is different from Granny.

If not, the failure of the parental explanation of death here is probably the main issue.

It’s a huge and inescapable part of our culture and history, seen in artwork, public buildings and more. My two year old and four year old have been learning about it all weekend and throughout Lent and they’re fine

Yep that is certainly an important facet. The development of the west over the past 2000 years has been so interwoven with Christianity it’s vital to understand the perspective of Christianity to understand every aspect of the development of Europe during that time. From Wars, to art, to persecution to the formation of borders to the position of women, the calendar, the law etc etc. even many parts of language have seen its influence.

almost every aspect of it has been shaped by religion for both good and bad. It doesn’t have to be taught as fact but it is so so important for understanding the western way of life that christianity is well understood.

Was it Jesus of Nazareth? I had the exact same situation in primary school. Some kids in my class were very upset. I had already seen it at home so wasn't as shocked but remember how graphic it was, especially the nail bit.