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Or is teaching 6 Yr old about crucixation out of order?

386 replies

Whostoblame · 08/04/2023 20:30

I might be over reacting but after multiple nights on the trot sleeping no more than 45-60 mins at a time I'm at the end of my tether. 6 year old goes to a non dom school and we are agnostic/atheist at home. School have been teaching them about Jesus and Easter etc including how Jesus was crucified. I now have a sobbing child every night who can't get the pictures out if her mind (and I'm not surprised!!)and subsequently cant sleep from about midnight, crying. Aibu to complain to school that 6 is way too young to be taught this?!

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WGACA · 08/04/2023 20:49

It’s in the RE curriculum. The crucifixion, resurrection and ascension are key learning in Christianity.

Jules912 · 08/04/2023 20:49

Unless it was particularly graphic I don't see the problem. My DC learnt about Easter and Christmas, they also learnt about Diwali, and Eid and Chinese new year. And probably some others.

Comeonbarbiebrianharvey · 08/04/2023 20:50

Yanbu. My 4yr old was horrified to learn at school (non religious) that Jesus was killed by being nailed to a cross on his hands and feet. But I don't think he quite understood as he then said 'that is what Christians believe, but it's ok because Christians are not real' 🙈🙈🙈

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 08/04/2023 20:51

By “non dom” do you mean Scottish non denominational? Because they are not the same as secular.

Obviously primary schools are going to teach about Easter. Even schools of non-Christian faiths teach about major Christian festivals.

Newname221 · 08/04/2023 20:51

Non denominational doesn’t mean that they don’t teach about religions; which include Christianity. In fact, here in Scotland at least, non denominational schools still have Christian (Protestant) religious observance, in addition to teaching factually about world religions and their beliefs.

My daughters class - in a non denominational school - read the Easter story in a church service. The kids are 7.

electriclight · 08/04/2023 20:51

Easter, including crucifixion and resurrection, are part of the RE syllabus. As long as they are teaching the children the key tenets of other world religions and none, I don't see anything to complain or be upset about.

In addition, all schools, even schools that are not faith schools, are required by law to provide a daily act of collective worship and at least half must be broadly Christian. At this time of year, collective worship - separate to RE - is likely to focus on the Easter story.

I agree with pp - help your child to build resilience and perspective as this will help her in the long run.

Jux · 08/04/2023 20:52

Don't forget the crown of thorns, the spear in thze side, the quenching of thirst using a sponge soaked in hyssop...

Sherrystrull · 08/04/2023 20:52

It's the RE curriculum. I taught my year 2 children about the story of Easter. We didn't labour too much about crucifixion but it's part of the story. It's also Important for children to understand the relevance of the cross to Christians.

Moan to the government if you don't like it. The school/teachers don't get to choose.

lasciviousoldram · 08/04/2023 20:53

I think you are overreacting and I don't mean that unkindly, especially if you are having a bad time sleep wise. I also am agnostic but it is important children learn about all religions - warts and and all. My 6 year old son and I were watching clips Jesus Christ Superstar as part of a musicals special and it did pose some questions but I just told him about the story the best I can. I'm sure as gruesome as it sounds there won't be any lasting trauma.

Newname221 · 08/04/2023 20:53

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 08/04/2023 20:51

By “non dom” do you mean Scottish non denominational? Because they are not the same as secular.

Obviously primary schools are going to teach about Easter. Even schools of non-Christian faiths teach about major Christian festivals.

This.

Non dom means non Catholic Christian. Or, to put it another way, Protestant.

Very odd they this would be posted during the school holidays though.

JustAnotherManicNameChange · 08/04/2023 20:53

User79853257976 · 08/04/2023 20:47

She’s only six, maybe the pictures they used were quite bloody.

The first pic is the more " gory" one, the second is probably more likely at that age. A lot of teachers even skip the actual crucifixion imagery and go straight to the next day.

Or is teaching 6 Yr old about crucixation out of order?
Or is teaching 6 Yr old about crucixation out of order?
Oakyloaky · 08/04/2023 20:54

As an adult I can honestly say that the crucifixion has never touched my mind .,I even went to a Catholic convent.my children have never mentioned it ,can only presume that you have influenced your child to have such an extreme reaction.

lljkk · 08/04/2023 21:01

This reminds me of several campaigns started in USA to get the Bibles banned from discussion in schools... because of all the violence and sex in the holy scripture. There are many new laws recently introduced that ban violent or pornographic books being available to school children. The anti-Bible lawsuits are causing a bit of a stir, most peculiar result you could say.

Florida man asks schools to ban Bible following the state's efforts to remove books

Activist Chaz Stevens says the book isn't age appropriate and contains references to rape and bestiality. It's a not-so-subtle dig at Florida's recent efforts to ban books.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/26/1094740651/florida-man-asks-schools-to-ban-the-bible-following-the-states-efforts-to-remove

ReadersD1gest · 08/04/2023 21:01

It's Easter, op...

niugboo · 08/04/2023 21:02

Non Dom means they aren’t specific Christianity, catholic, Church of England etc. they are required to teach this.

ClairDeLaLune · 08/04/2023 21:02

Has your DD never watched Horrible Histories? She sounds a little over-sensitive. It’s appropriate for kids to learn about the crucifixion as it’s Easter time. She must have seen an image of Jesus on the cross before surely?

Newname221 · 08/04/2023 21:02

lljkk · 08/04/2023 21:01

This reminds me of several campaigns started in USA to get the Bibles banned from discussion in schools... because of all the violence and sex in the holy scripture. There are many new laws recently introduced that ban violent or pornographic books being available to school children. The anti-Bible lawsuits are causing a bit of a stir, most peculiar result you could say.

Bot you on about?

niugboo · 08/04/2023 21:02

Your kids reaction is weird though. I suggest professional help.

Newname221 · 08/04/2023 21:03

ClairDeLaLune · 08/04/2023 21:02

Has your DD never watched Horrible Histories? She sounds a little over-sensitive. It’s appropriate for kids to learn about the crucifixion as it’s Easter time. She must have seen an image of Jesus on the cross before surely?

To be honest, not necessarily. The crucifix is predominantly used in Catholicism. Other Christian denominations usually use an empty cross.

ReadersD1gest · 08/04/2023 21:04

niugboo · 08/04/2023 21:02

Your kids reaction is weird though. I suggest professional help.

This. I suspect op's over reaction is feeding it, though.

sorrynotathome · 08/04/2023 21:05

Hopefully the school will also teach your child how to spell crucifixion.

lilybloom2 · 08/04/2023 21:06

Non denom means no denomination of Christianity but still Christian.

Every school teaches Christianity to a degree. I'm not saying it's right or wrong just what the laws are. However, the fact your child is so upset shows that's it's been taught inappropriately. Even if it was balanced out by other religions the focus has been too heavy on one element of the Easter story.

Go and see the head teacher, focus on the affect on the child rather than the belief

Hope your child feels better soon

niugboo · 08/04/2023 21:07

ReadersD1gest · 08/04/2023 21:04

This. I suspect op's over reaction is feeding it, though.

I agree. Anxious hysterical kids always have parents the same.

OMG12 · 08/04/2023 21:08

Blimey we got the full deal on the crucifixion at this age (catholic convent school). It’s so important kids learn about Christianity so much of western society is based on this.

it doesn’t need to be taught as fact but that )most) Christian’s believe this as historical fact

AlexandriasWindmill · 08/04/2023 21:08

I've never known any DC to have even one sleepless night over the crucifixion never mind a week of them. Maybe you can tease out what's really going on with her? Your OP makes you seem prone to catastrophising so perhaps someone else would be better at having a conversation with your DD and helping her to process whatever has upset her.