This "mother's" action seem cruel, that poor little girl

[Mylittlefanny]

I do believe that kids need firm boundaries. But refusing to let a grieving toddler into your bed at night after her dad died! Those poor kids look so unhappy. There is being firm and being cruel. 😭 That bit honestly made me so upset. I agree about chores, cooking and cleaning. But gloating to your kid and leave him shivering without a camping bag! Sorry 😐 that's not on. I wonder what her kids will feel like when they are older! And yes I do read the daily mail as despite some of the celeb shit they publish. They also occasionally do interesting stories and cover issues many other newspapers don't.

I'm such a strict mother, a parent reported me to social services mol.im/a/11942993 via https://dailym.ai/android

Oh and the sleeping bag incident - that so didn’t happen

Seems like the mum has popped up on here reading some previous comments on the thread. If you are the parent. Take a good long look at yourself! And pay for some fucking therapy for your kids!

Hey 👋 are the mum!

The pics made me laugh. The children looked miserable except the one where she wasn't in it 😂

@Theaxiomofequality seriously 😳 you are sick creep

@Mailista I don't think a Mail journalist has any right to take the moral high ground with any poster on here. The brass neck of it.

Exactly.
And I stand by what I said about the mother.

I slept in my mum’s bed the night after my dad died - I was 16!

Can only imagine how that poor little girl felt. The woman sounds awful.

I don't allow co-sleeping neither, but wouldn't leave a kid go back to bed upset alone. If just talking to them for a couple of minutes doesn't work, we would go to the living room with the dog for tea/milk and a biscuit and have a chat until they felt a bit better, and this does work.

Why is this woman obsessed with resilience? Chip on shoulder? Living in a nasty neighbourhood? Expecting the worst in life? Bringing up your children miserable, cruelty, abuse, all for... Resilience? There are many resilient children who come from happy families whose needs are met, who aren't forced to play rugby ehen duck, of get punished to sleep in cold cos they made a mistake. Yes society has changed since Spartan parents were leaving their kids in the forest for tests if resilience, it's called progress.

*rugby when sick, or get punished...

Oh for pity's sake, don't be so silly.

I'm merely saying how these articles work, though anyone with a bit of critical intelligence would be able to work this out anyway.

I have no idea what the woman in the article is like IRL, but I wouldn't start calling her a vile cunt without knowing her or without putting the entire article into a very specific context.

Though I suppose that's far more boring than jumping to conclusions based on what you've read in the Mail.

That's pretty silly, too. I suspect that in fact some people are a bit embarrassed by having fallen into the trap of judging this woman on the strength of a Mail article, so are going to take it out on me as a representative of a newspaper which published an article which they read and believed.

They absolutely, definitely didn't keep taking the pictures until they finally captured ones which fitted the narrative.

The trouble is with shit like this is that it legitimises the behaviour - the abuse and neglect - in the minds of others

Now that, @NeverDropYourMooncup, is a good and incisive comment.

Well there are pkeny of quotes from the mum. Unfortunately in my line of work I have seen parents who behave like this and find strange ways to defend their actions.
Let's hope it's made up or wildly exaggerated.

If I went on a camping trip and forgot my sleeping bag my husband would bring one to me, as I would him. Because we love and care for each other. Teaching responsibility is one thing, but this goes beyond that into a cold and harsh form of parenting.

making their own lunches etc sounds fab. Making them play sport when unwell, letting them sleep in a tent in 0c - that just harsh and over the top.

I found the reference to having sent him a photo of the sleeping bag really odd. Sounds like gloating at his mistake. Very cruel.

@Mailista oh, honey, no, this is... well, in the words of Bart Simpson: the ironing is delicious. Have a good night polishing your moral compass. And the brass neck

This is so sad :( Even my 11 yr old occasionally snuggles into our bed when he's poorly. He's loved and feels nurtured and safe. This woman is so cold it's scary. So so sad :(

@APlagueOnBothYourTrousers I totally disagree with you for reasons previously mentioned (it's hard to know whether the people who write the articles or those who salivate over the awfulness of them and start clickbait threads on them are more morally barren), but I do like your username!

@Mailista it's................the Daily Mail's account.

100%!

Children don’t need resilience, they need to be loved, safe, seen and heard and go known their parents are always there when needed. That will help them grow into resilient, independent, emotionally healthy adults.

i totally agree. My dd is becoming increasingly resilient because she has all of these things. And she’s privileged to have these things from both parents. She’s 14.

As for overprotective, I need to be a little with dd. No where near to the extent of one of dd’s friends, whose mother is an absolute worrier, which also doesn’t inspire confidence in children. Dd has a medical condition, which if triggered in certain circumstances could kill her. And dd hates that she’s different. Is in quite a lot of denial, so I’m trying to be the voice in her head not to put herself in danger. It is deeply worrying for me as she becomes increasingly independent.

Resilience is a fine balance. Too much worrying and it won’t be built, whereas the reverse is also true. I was brought up by a mother, who doesn’t believe in emotions. I certainly didn’t have resilience. Quite the opposite actually. She didn’t once comfort me when my dad died when I was a child. She just didn’t have the skills and could be pretty cruel with me when growing up. She’s mellowed with age and since learned a lot.

The pictures in the DM definitely paint a difficult picture. How much of it is sensationalised, we cannot know. I agree the kids all look miserable, the girl hauntingly so and the younger boy has his arms crossed in front of his stomach. I am not surprised to see him in this pose. It looks like faux resilience when if anything, he probably lacks confidence and feels insecure.

“Once, my approach wouldn’t have been unusual - but now parents are far too soft on their kids”

I think she’s mistaking the fact that we have developed more of an awareness and understanding that children just need love and support in order to thrive, not harsh and unnecessary treatment. My own dad was treated similarly as a child and has had lifelong trauma. I feel for her children and any other in similar situations.

The kids seem quite happy. They will certainly learn how to stand on their own two feet. Some of it was OTT, but the rest seemed fine.👍