This "mother's" action seem cruel, that poor little girl

[Mylittlefanny]

I do believe that kids need firm boundaries. But refusing to let a grieving toddler into your bed at night after her dad died! Those poor kids look so unhappy. There is being firm and being cruel. 😭 That bit honestly made me so upset. I agree about chores, cooking and cleaning. But gloating to your kid and leave him shivering without a camping bag! Sorry 😐 that's not on. I wonder what her kids will feel like when they are older! And yes I do read the daily mail as despite some of the celeb shit they publish. They also occasionally do interesting stories and cover issues many other newspapers don't.

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The chores is fine and children should be doing things around the home from an early age.
The rest of it is not.
The sleeping bag is outrageous - yes, he fucked up by forgetting it, but it's a very cruel person who would allow their child to sleep outside in a tent with no sleeping bag. Hypothermia happens faster than you'd think. He could have ended up seriously unwell.
Making the kid play rugby after the virus was cruel too and also dangerous. You shouldn't be playing sports like that until you are fully recovered.
She risks her children's physical health and that should not be happening.

Agree.

Children need someone who will comfort and support them when necessary, and let them know that they are loved and protected as much as mam and dad are able.

Being left to cry in loneliness and distress just teaches them that they are (apparently) of no importance and no-one will have their back. It makes them afraid because they know they can't protect themselves and it appears that no-one will protect them.

To be fair most of it is teaching resilience which is good for them. It doesn't say she didn't comfort the child, and she could do that and still put her back to bed so not something to get worked up over. Yes I would have let her sleep with me , but I'm not sure that's really best? A cuddle a chat and safely back in own bed is quite reasonable.
Im a much weaker mother , with the sleeping bag I word have got cross but still gone and got it. Her way is probably better long term. I bet she didn't tell at him, like most mother's would before we go and
get it, then moan not stop about it.
Resilience is a really important trait to have for life, its how we cope with the really hard times.

If its true, its pretty shit of the Scouts to leave in sleeping without bedding. However I suspect they didn't, and he just wasn't as warm as if he'd got his bag. He'd have been what, 10-13? So possibly in junior school still. I think most scout leaders would go cold before they let one of their kids sleep without any bedding.

I think it's odd she lambast parents who test their kids like friends when she seems to have a mainly house-share relationship with her own

TeaAndTwoSugars · Today 14:26

Leaving a child shivering in the cold because they forgot a sleeping bag is a step too far and borders on cruelty, especially mocking them through text for it.

It's not just shivering, it's likely to result in hypothermia.

And like you, I thought that the children looked utterly miserable, whilst she had a smug grin.

Haven’t read the whole thing. Leaving her son without a sleeping bag in freezing temperature and not letting her two year old in her bed after her dad had moved out was enough to decide she is an idiot. Poor kids.

I think the camping trip was cruel and horrible and forcing her son to play when she knew for definite he was sick was absolute neglect but she talks sense too-how nowadays people have no control, and I put myself in that category too, if one of our kids truly went off the rails what does anyone have in their arsenal except taking away devices? There’s a balance though

I would imagine there is a link between her behaviour and what happened. She will never see it though

Oh that's so sad and tragic. You mean she is a mother to four children? So 3 traumatic events those children have endured. I really hope they have accessed some form of counselling.

I spat my coffee out at the ‘no one remembers who came second’ bullshit because I’d remember that kid and his mum’s reaction forever if I’d seen it!

Also who remembers who came first at sodding primary school ffs

Also wondered if the rest of the rugby team later came down with a nasty virus…

Not being prepared to give your kids the comfort they need at night when their dad has just died is just lazy. Ditto being too lazy to remind him about the sleeping bag or deliver it to him. She's dressing it up as being good for them when she's just a lazy cow. My kids were allowed to sleep in my bed as long as they liked when their dad died suddenly. For one that was a couple of nights, the other it was longer.
Once they are bringing up their own kids we'll see what they make of her parenting then. Maybe they can wrote a DM article about what they thought of it

Well....that's how I was brought up. And I imagine it was fairly standard parenting in the fairly recent past.

I think it can make you into an emotional stunted adult, and very contained and self sufficient - in a good way, but also bad way.

Not sure I believe she was reported to social services for not letting her kids watch TV. I'd like to hear the person who reported her give their account of why they reported her.

Just realised it was when the dad left the home that the 2 year old was needing comfort during the night. My opinion still stands that she was lazy to deny the child comfort.

People often feel smug that their parents don't hold things against them when the child is a young adult. Personally I tried to move on and put my mum's emotional abuse in the past when I left home. It was when I was bringing up my own children that the memories came flooding back of how vile she was. I have as little to do with her as possible these days.

Come on, now. You do know that is how the Mail writes these things, don't you? It's all hyped up to get the clicks and comments.

Anyone can bring up a child without giving them any emotional support. It's the easy and lazy way.

She will probably have a very lonely old age.

😱 that’s awful. Funny there’s no mention of this in the article.
While I fully agree there should be boundaries and you need to be a parent, she has taken that way too far. Leaving her son to freeze - I agree he probably didn’t ask for a spare cos he thought an adult wouldn’t help him. Sending her son to play rugby when ill, dangerous, can put a strain on the heart.
Yes, chores, work etc all good, but you can’t force your child to get a job or:scrub the floor!!Plus they need downtime after school to decompress, and once homework etc is done.

I don't think you should have said that. You are potentially going to make life even more difficult for the three children in the article than it already will be as a result of the article having been written at all.

There’s one thing to say “you’ve made a mistake you silly bugger - you’ll have to wrap up warm in clothes and ask if you can borrow a sleeping bag!” And blowing them a kiss, leaving and then gleefully and smugly texting them a picture of their sleeping bag. That’s not teaching them anything except smugness, cruelty and an uncaring attitude. My parents were and still are at 37(!) strict but I cannot imagine having a cold hearted mother that would treat me like that!

I can completely relate to the son not asking others for help. My parents were very explicit in taking the piss out of me for forgetting something, breaking something was always my deliberate act or stupidity. There was nothing that would have convinced me to trust an adult to help me. I remember my brother at a school camp got injured so a teacher came to find me to comfort him and she realised I had no idea what to say to him and all I remember saying was 'your jeans are ripped' and offering to fix them for him. Kids with parents like these lack a lot of simple skills, but it's rare anyone notices.

She’s right in that a little hardship does you more good than harm. If children don’t experience any hurdles they cannot develop the tools they need to become rounded adults. But nothing to excess. I think she takes the tough love too far. Certainly the text to her son showing him a picture of the sleeping bag he’d forgotten seems like the action of someone slightly damaged. So whilst I do agree with allowing children to experience difficulties occasionally this has to be in moderation rather than a lifestyle choice as she has instigated.