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Replitad · 2023-04-04T22:12:17+00:00

I wouldn't have called myself a republican before now but I think the 'Queen' Camilla thing has tipped me over the edge. Pretty audacious considering their history and I think a lot of the public won't agree. I certainly won't be celebrating or even watching coronation.

Jourdain11 · 07/04/2023 17:53

I think some of you are confusing The Crown with real life....

CherryCokeFanatic · 07/04/2023 17:56

Not my Queen

vera99 · 07/04/2023 18:11

Over on the Reddit sub British Royal Family which is batshit crazy fawning and modded to death (I was banned within hours of joining!) and uses the acronym HMLTQ they never drop the consort from 'Queen' Camilla thus respecting HMLTQ's wishes. Some might like to take note.

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DappledThings · 07/04/2023 18:16

they never drop the consort from 'Queen' Camilla thus respecting HMLTQ's wishes. Some might like to take note.
That isn't respecting anyone's wishes. It's just more people failing to understand how titles work

DappledThings · 07/04/2023 18:19

DappledThings · 07/04/2023 18:16

they never drop the consort from 'Queen' Camilla thus respecting HMLTQ's wishes. Some might like to take note.
That isn't respecting anyone's wishes. It's just more people failing to understand how titles work

Or possibly not misunderstanding, but choosing to use a particular form of a title. Which is fine. But it still isn't respecting the late queen's wishes when she made no claim at all she wanted only the Queen Consort title used.

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 18:23

@IcedPurple it is not the affair that I condemn: many marry the wrong person. It's the callousness of their behaviour, the bullying of a teenager treating her as a mere procreation cow.
They were more than ten years older, they behaved in an appalling way.
And he is going to head a church? Seriously?

CarolinaInTheMorning · 07/04/2023 18:36

Diana wasn't a teenager when she married.

Inkanta · 07/04/2023 18:37

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 18:23

@IcedPurple it is not the affair that I condemn: many marry the wrong person. It's the callousness of their behaviour, the bullying of a teenager treating her as a mere procreation cow.
They were more than ten years older, they behaved in an appalling way.
And he is going to head a church? Seriously?

Yes it really is bollocks. Head of the Church of England bollocks.

IcedPurple · 07/04/2023 18:45

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 18:23

@IcedPurple it is not the affair that I condemn: many marry the wrong person. It's the callousness of their behaviour, the bullying of a teenager treating her as a mere procreation cow.
They were more than ten years older, they behaved in an appalling way.
And he is going to head a church? Seriously?

So an affair is OK if you 'marry the wrong person'? Would the wives of Diana's side pieces agree, I wonder?

As for the 'procreation cow' business, to use your words not mine, what did that have to do with Camilla? Surely Diana's own family were primarily responsible for her? Although I agree with other posters that she wasn't quite the wide eyed innocent some are claiming. She was young, but not unusually so by the standards of aristocratic brides in those days. She seemed very happy to marry the Prince of Wales.

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Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 19:29

@IIcedPurple ok, you think that someone in its 30s who gets engaged to a teenager, marrying her for the sole purpose of having an heir, having another woman on the side (before and after, if I understand it correctly) is fit to be both king and head of a church and the lady in question a queen.
But I do not think the CofE agrees, and when they wed it was in a civil ceremony.
Maybe the CofE sees a problem with the whole behaviour.
Or maybe not, and everything is allowed.

IcedPurple · 07/04/2023 19:36

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 19:29

@IIcedPurple ok, you think that someone in its 30s who gets engaged to a teenager, marrying her for the sole purpose of having an heir, having another woman on the side (before and after, if I understand it correctly) is fit to be both king and head of a church and the lady in question a queen.
But I do not think the CofE agrees, and when they wed it was in a civil ceremony.
Maybe the CofE sees a problem with the whole behaviour.
Or maybe not, and everything is allowed.

Charles is the King, therefore yes, he is fit to be head of the Church of England, as that is the way it works. Similarly, as his wife Camilla is fit to be Queen. There are no 'morality' requirements for the role.

Certainly one can argue that being head of the C of E should not be down to an accident of birth, but that is how it has been since the church were founded, and Charles' behaviour is tame compared to many of his predecessors.

The reason he and Camilla were married in a civil ceremony, followed by a church blessing, has nothing to do with their 'behaviour' but due to the fact that Camilla still had a living ex husband.

Are you a member of the CoE? Is that the reason this bothers you so much? If so, perhaps you would be best advised to take it up with your vicar?

CarolinaInTheMorning · 07/04/2023 19:43

The Church of England has divorced bishops now so it really does seemed to have moved on a bit.

Mimosa08 · 07/04/2023 19:52

I'm a republican BUT the posters clutching their pearls that Charles isn't "fit" to be king? 🤣🤣
Was Canute?
Or Edward 1st?
Or Richard 2nd?
How about Henry 8th?
No one is "fit" to be king or queen because the whole institution is insane and hasn't place in the 21st century

vera99 · 07/04/2023 20:02

Agreed but QE2 set a near perfect template as to what a very modern monarch should be ;

Come to the throne young and beautiful
NEVER utter a word in public that isn't unoffensive and non-controversial.
Live a long and seemingly monogamous, blameless life.

Oh, and very important.
BE A WOMAN.

Charles's fails on all 4 counts.

Petra198 · 07/04/2023 20:03

Shes the wife of the King, she should be queen. Ive personally never thought she shouldn't have been and am pleased to see him make a positive choice in line with HIS wishes.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 07/04/2023 20:44

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 18:23

@IcedPurple it is not the affair that I condemn: many marry the wrong person. It's the callousness of their behaviour, the bullying of a teenager treating her as a mere procreation cow.
They were more than ten years older, they behaved in an appalling way.
And he is going to head a church? Seriously?

FGS they didn’t bully a teenager.

Both people in the marriage were deeply unhappy and sought solace elsewhere. No one is better or worse than the other.

It’s just what happens when people marry someone they don’t love.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 07/04/2023 20:46

IcedPurple · 07/04/2023 18:45

So an affair is OK if you 'marry the wrong person'? Would the wives of Diana's side pieces agree, I wonder?

As for the 'procreation cow' business, to use your words not mine, what did that have to do with Camilla? Surely Diana's own family were primarily responsible for her? Although I agree with other posters that she wasn't quite the wide eyed innocent some are claiming. She was young, but not unusually so by the standards of aristocratic brides in those days. She seemed very happy to marry the Prince of Wales.

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The irony is the whitewashing people claim Camilla had help on from spin doctors, is exactly how they fell in love with Diana. The eyeliner to make her eyes bigger, the looking up from the heavy fringe, the affected voice - it was all a ploy to get you to fall for her.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 07/04/2023 20:48

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 19:29

@IIcedPurple ok, you think that someone in its 30s who gets engaged to a teenager, marrying her for the sole purpose of having an heir, having another woman on the side (before and after, if I understand it correctly) is fit to be both king and head of a church and the lady in question a queen.
But I do not think the CofE agrees, and when they wed it was in a civil ceremony.
Maybe the CofE sees a problem with the whole behaviour.
Or maybe not, and everything is allowed.

When you refer to ‘The CofE’ you refer to the King - it’s literally his church

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 20:53

Of course, Charles is the rich and powerful King and he and his wife can do whatever they like and bugger all the teenager girls in the world. It was always like that, and move on. Actually, let's have them sponsor some mental health conferences on teenagers girl coming from broken families. How not to marry an old fag who makes you feel like shit.
And yes, you think Queen Camilla should have worn the Koh I Noor and damn the Indians who did not get over a bit of colonisation.
Everything is allowed, everything is forgiven because think of all the other Kings in the past, it was always like this.
This country is constantly cuddling its past.

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 20:54

And BTW he got engaged to her when she was a teenager and got married on the same month of her 20th birthday. So that nobody could say je was marrying a "teenager". No, he did not know what he was doing.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 07/04/2023 22:10

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 20:53

Of course, Charles is the rich and powerful King and he and his wife can do whatever they like and bugger all the teenager girls in the world. It was always like that, and move on. Actually, let's have them sponsor some mental health conferences on teenagers girl coming from broken families. How not to marry an old fag who makes you feel like shit.
And yes, you think Queen Camilla should have worn the Koh I Noor and damn the Indians who did not get over a bit of colonisation.
Everything is allowed, everything is forgiven because think of all the other Kings in the past, it was always like this.
This country is constantly cuddling its past.

Of course, Charles is the rich and powerful King and he and his wife can do whatever they like and bugger all the teenager girls in the world.*

You now sound slightly deranged. What have they done to teenage girls?!
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TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 07/04/2023 22:11

Possiblynotever · 07/04/2023 20:54

And BTW he got engaged to her when she was a teenager and got married on the same month of her 20th birthday. So that nobody could say je was marrying a "teenager". No, he did not know what he was doing.

She was only a little below the average age of women who married in 1981 (23 - the average today is age 30). He didn’t marry a teenager, and these exaggerations are embarrassing

AskMeMore · 07/04/2023 22:14

It is true the average age for women to get married then was 23, but most married men a similar age. Not men 12 years older and way more experienced.
She was a teenager when they got engaged and set the date for their marriage.

Opinionsinteresting2me · 07/04/2023 22:15

And Camilla heads up a charity on domestic abuse! She should know all about it - she condoned and encouraged abuse of Diana for Charles and Camilla's own gain! And gain she has now got! Using taxpayers' money for their own luxury lifestyles.