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To think Gen Z is difficult to manage at work?

334 replies

donniedarko89 · 04/04/2023 14:20

I have noticed younger people tend to be more cynical and argumentative, with less work boundaries/respect for hierarchies (which is not necessarily a bad thing, but can come across as presumption/arrogance). This makes it more difficult to manage them at work imo.

Have you noticed any similar behaviours?

OP posts:
DdraigGoch · 24/04/2023 09:27

HamptonCaught · 24/04/2023 06:29

Do you work for a local authority?

No, this sort of thing is widespread

MXVIT · 24/04/2023 09:27

"they know their value."

Incorrect. They know what they perceive their value to be.

I admire the boundaries and the work life balance prioritisation - more power to them.

What I dont admire- and what my experience is of 100% of Gen Zs I have managed - is their refusal to "pay their dues".

Of course you won't come in to a business on a great salary doing only the jobs you enjoy. - they genuinely can't seem to grasp this and seem affronted when asked to do traditionally entry level duties for a traditionally entry level pay.

Entry level will involve a lot of people telling you what to do. Such is life.

JaceLancs · 24/04/2023 09:32

Not my experience
the worst people I’ve had on my team recently are in their 30s, but we also have fabulous employees in that age group

Howlongdoesittake · 24/04/2023 09:33

I would say they are lazy - that's my experience anyway.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 24/04/2023 10:33

Valeriekat · 24/04/2023 09:22

You might have missed the irony.

Just like the sarcasm sailed over your head? As did the whole post, it died a few weeks ago

IDontWantToBeAPie · 24/04/2023 13:26

@MXVIT tbf entry levels wages haven't really gone up in the last 10-15 years. They're not enough to live on.

I was on £17k my first year in 2018... in London.

Eleganz · 24/04/2023 13:48

MXVIT · 24/04/2023 09:27

"they know their value."

Incorrect. They know what they perceive their value to be.

I admire the boundaries and the work life balance prioritisation - more power to them.

What I dont admire- and what my experience is of 100% of Gen Zs I have managed - is their refusal to "pay their dues".

Of course you won't come in to a business on a great salary doing only the jobs you enjoy. - they genuinely can't seem to grasp this and seem affronted when asked to do traditionally entry level duties for a traditionally entry level pay.

Entry level will involve a lot of people telling you what to do. Such is life.

In a tight labour market they can afford to be picky.

At the end of the day this generation have grown up seeing their parents and previous generations being increasing treated as a disposable commodity in the workplace. Redundancies and casualisation are far more common than they were a generation ago. In such an environment the promise of great rewards in a few years time if they can knuckle down now, pick up the bad jobs and give lots of discretionary effort seems like a deal that they have no faith in. Rightly or wrongly they want incentives now as they have no idea if they will be working in the same place in a year or two's time.

Whilst I agree that you do need to "pay your dues" in many careers, Gen Z's rejection of that a product of the system they have grown up in.

MXVIT · 24/04/2023 13:55

@IDontWantToBeAPie - agreed, and that's a separate legit debate, I suppose how I should have worded it should have been they expect to come in and be on the same salary as their superiors.

@Eleganz - someone has to do the entry level jobs, my experience with Gen Z is that they feel entry level jobs are beneath them despite being fresh into the world of work.

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