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Philip Schofield: As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother."

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DancingWithMashedPotato · 03/04/2023 17:38

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

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crimsonpeak · 03/04/2023 19:30

It’s a no brainer. He would be dead to me too.

Greenfairydust · 03/04/2023 19:32

PS is a complete hypocrite since it on record that he failed to do anything when his brother confessed his crime to him.

Now that he has been convicted, he conveniently decides to distance himself from the guy.

All for publicity and to try to save his job.

Absolute creeps both of them...

Throwncrumbs · 03/04/2023 19:34

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I agree!

ancientgran · 03/04/2023 19:38

Greenfairydust · 03/04/2023 19:32

PS is a complete hypocrite since it on record that he failed to do anything when his brother confessed his crime to him.

Now that he has been convicted, he conveniently decides to distance himself from the guy.

All for publicity and to try to save his job.

Absolute creeps both of them...

I thought he said his brother told him it was a 16 year old so that isn't a crime is it. It can be if it is someone like a teacher or social worker but I don't know what his brother does.

JKTrolling · 03/04/2023 19:40

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CiaoBellisima · 03/04/2023 19:40

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Agreed. He needs to take a long hard look at his own behaviour. In fact the police should be investigating him as well.

Windbeneathmybingowings · 03/04/2023 19:40

He has to go big or go home to save himself here.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 03/04/2023 19:41

I'm no particular fan of Philip Schofield. However if he'd have said "He's my brother regardless of what he's done I'm going to stand by him he'd have been a tw*t in that way and quite right, too, but You seem to think its odd that he's washed his hands of him. Talk about not being able to win.

SeaDee · 03/04/2023 19:41

Blistory · 03/04/2023 17:43

It's for show.

He knew what his brother had done and didn't disown him. Now that it's public knowledge, he changes his tune.

Funny that.

Yep

Gymnopedie · 03/04/2023 19:42

PS couldn't make any statement until the trial verdict was given. As soon as it was a police and criminal case, a public statement would be considered prejudicial to the fairness of the hearing - and yes, even paedophiles are entitled to a fair trail.

It may be that PS took that line much earlier in private, but as a public figure he couldn't say anything more widely.

TakingMilesFromInches · 03/04/2023 19:42

CiaoBellisima · 03/04/2023 19:40

Agreed. He needs to take a long hard look at his own behaviour. In fact the police should be investigating him as well.

The police. Lol. If anyone was to say let’s investigate PS, they would be immediately shut down.

PrincessScarlett · 03/04/2023 19:42

His statement was an attempt to salvage his career. I bet he's publicly disowned him but will still keep in touch with him.

AhoyThereShipmates · 03/04/2023 19:43

Saddm · 03/04/2023 18:05

I was in Those Shoes.
Very easy to say in principle what you would do.
Irl it was me that rang the police.
Me that told the police what my dc had allegedly done - though no doubt in my mind every word the accuser told me was true..
Me that watched as the officers tore our family apart forever as they took my dc to the police car.
Me that lives every day half a life now..
Imo not even worth mentally playing out the scenario.
Irl the horror is unimaginable..

@Saddm that must have taken remarkable strength of character. I think I remember you and this situation actually. I don’t want this to come over as patronising, but I want to commend what you did 💐

Lndnmummy · 03/04/2023 19:44

WheelsUp · 03/04/2023 17:43

Absolutely this ^^

Yep

Nowhereelsetogo90 · 03/04/2023 19:47

JaneJeffer · 03/04/2023 18:11

you can see how they've come to have done what they have done
Don't be ridiculous.

Is it ridiculous? It’s not uncommon for child abuse victims to become abusers. Especially where the abuse has occurred within the family and has therefore been normalised. I’ve worked with people in these situations like the poster you are saying is ridiculous. In real life it’s rarely that black and white. Could I disown my brother for committing a sexual offence? IMO yes I could. But I get why others don’t especially if the offender has experienced abuse/trauma themselves.

tryandfindmenow · 03/04/2023 19:47

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This 💯

Wills · 03/04/2023 19:48

I’ll be honest, I’ve only read the opening post. However a very dear friend of mine had a ‘best’ friend with whom she felt she’d found the family she’d never had. (Abusive mother etc). However despite dear friend working with very young children and despite dear friend agreeing to house best friend’s brother in mother’s house her best friend never told her her that her brother was charged with being a peadophile. There are many ares of work that being even twice removed from a paedophile means instance removal from working in the industry (thank goodness!) her ‘best friend’ didn’t warn her. They’ve moved on BUT she’s so hurt. This was her best friend. 3 years on she is still being investigated for ‘harbouring’ a paedophile. Whilst I feel sorry for families for horror and the shame, I feel a greater sorrow for those associated. My friend only tried to help her other friend out and had zero knowledge of what was going on. Paedophiles are scum! Those that can’t come to terms with that are no different.

Mammillaria · 03/04/2023 19:50

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Newmum1998 · 03/04/2023 19:51

You’re an enabler then if you can’t cut someone off who’s a pedo just because you’re related. It makes you just as bad as them in my books. You and your family must be very toxic with that kind of mentality

TropicalH20 · 03/04/2023 19:52

DancingWithMashedPotato · 03/04/2023 17:38

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

Nope these very crimes of sexual abuse of a child I would disown anyone I knew family or not.
I don't really know how you could not..........

Badger1970 · 03/04/2023 19:52

He's trending on Twitter tonight....

Perhaps he needs another super injunction. Stat.

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/04/2023 19:53

Godwhatswrongwithme · 03/04/2023 19:04

How can Holly even be friends with him?? 🤷🏻‍♀️It’s utterly bizarre, where are everyone’s morals

I don’t watch this morning. I have occasionally caught snapshots of it. I know viewers may think they know Holly. But I’d say we don’t know her at all. She definitely seems to have a distinct on screen persona, which may be very different from how she is irl.

Wills · 03/04/2023 19:54

And when I say “they moved on” they have nothing to do with each other. My friend’s ‘friend’ makes loud noises on social media about how my friend has been unreasonable but my friend takes the high road and doesn’t engage. But she’s hurt beyond belief. Philip Schofield needs to look into his heart and either decide his brother was wronged (it does happen) or was wrong (in which case he needs to make the case clear). If he decides his brother has been wronged I’d support that decision for a while. Until his evidence proves otherwise. The justice system in this country can be wrong - though rarely - it’s why I support not having a death penalty. The system makes mistakes - but these are rare and Philip needs to make his own decision. If he supports his brother then he needs to produce evidence that goes against the decision. Otherwise he needs to distance himself. We’re all our own future makers and Philips should not be held accountable for his brother’s deeds - though no doubt the press will feel/publish otherwise!

Greenfairydust · 03/04/2023 19:55

''@PotterofGryfindor

@YetiTeri

PS couldn't have released a statement disowning his brother as that would have been subjudice.
THIS

All those saying he should’ve disowned him when he first found out are showing a lack of understanding about our legal process. ''

You are both missing the point.

The issue is that he did not report his brother to the police when he told him what he had done...

Instead a mental health professional contacted the police after the brother again confessed to them.

PS initial silence had nothing to do whatsoever with the ''legal process'' as you are suggesting. He was just willing to cover everything up...until somebody else reported his brother.

Childrenofthestones · 03/04/2023 19:55

"So brave"