To not wear sunscreen in winter in northern England?

[thepox]

Just don't see the point, yet every advice says to indeed bother.

AIBU?

I don't wear sunscreen, I've yet to find one that doesn't irritate me. I am careful and wear a hat in the summer and stay out of the sun.

You'd have to have deep pockets to wear sun cream all round. Where have you seen this advice?

I never wear sunscreen in the winter unless I'm out walking in the hills.

Mind you, I have a massive Vitamin D deficiency, so I need the sun on my skin!

I'm not sure why you wouldn't. Loads of moisturisers have SPF in them so it's not exactly onerous to do so, and you're literally only hurting yourself by not wearing it.

But, it's your skin so it's up to you.

Well yes YABU. Sunscreen isn’t just about protecting from the sun. It’s about UV rays that are present all the times.

Yes, you are being v unreasonable, sorry.
And it should be separate from your moisturizer.

I live in northern England. I have never worn sunscreen here or anywhere else and, even tho I'm old, I don't have many wrinkles. Just do what you like, because nobody else will notice either way.

No point. In the northern hemisphere in winter the sun is too low to even let us make Vitamin D ever mind being damaged by the rays. There is some opinion that wearing high-factor sunscreen all day in the height of summer might not be helpful for the same reason

Who is being hurt by the lack of sunscreen over winter?

Well of course your being unreasonable to put your own uneducated opinion above those who are actually qualified in their field.

I use Simple's face oil with SPF 30 - it was recommended by someone on here - it's around £6 a bottle - Use it every day and lasts about a year, just purchased a second bottle.
don't bother other than my face.

I never wear sunscreen unless it is hot enough and I am outdoors for long enough that I am at risk of sunburn, so usually only when abroad or in the height of the UK
summer. I don’t wear moisturiser or use face creams either.

Apparently what you need to do is assault your skin with a variety of chemicals that degrades the quality of your skin to such a degree that you need to wear factor 50 in a cave in December in Scotland so that you can pay the beauty industry twice over in pursuit of vanity.

Why on earth would anyone do it? The "advice" will be by the cosmetics companies no doubt.
I've equally seen advice to sit for 15mins once a day in the winter sun (as rare as that is! ) with bare face and open palms facing towards the sun. We weren't made faulty to seek the sun, we need it for correct cell function.

I even go on a sunbed for 5mins once a week in the depths of winter - I get seasonal fatigue, depression and lowered immune system without it.
I don't do tanning to change the shade of my skin though.

I do but I use tretinoin. Don't use SPF when I'm at work though - arrive in the dark, inside has no external windows and I leave in the dark!

Cancer Research UK, Skin Cancer.org, and the British Association of Dermatologists would say you're telling very dangerous lies there.

@BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted Re: vitamin D. Research has shown that interestingly (and contrary to what you'd perhaps think) wearing sunscreen doesn't prevent synthesis of vitamin D. (Lots of people are very deficient in Vitamin D in the UK, but not nearly as many as those in southern Europe whose skins are generally darker)

What is a dangerous lie about the fact that women are using AHAs and that this then necessitates wearing high factor sunscreen throughout the year?

I do - even if it's just my face cream that has SPF 30.

I don't know what it is, but I get more sunburnt from 20' out back here in the NW on a sunny day (or one of those clear blue sky ones in Nov) than when I was outdoors all day in the tropics.

Haha

@QueenCamilla Why on earth would anyone do it?…
I even go on a sunbed for 5mins once a week in the depths of winter

Pretty ironic opening line there.

Yanbu. We need every scrap of vitamin D we can get in this country.

I wear factor 50 all year round. I've always done this since childhood on account if being very fair skinned/naturally blonde. My grandma developed her first skin cancer in her 30s and so I grew up being told to wear sunscreen all the time.

Incidentally, I've aged much better than any of my friends. I still have to carry ID at 35 and every time I'm asked the cashier or bar tender is always visibly surprised as they thought I looked under 25. I'm often asked if I'm a student in the city I live in.

"High-SPF sunscreens are designed to filter out most of the sun’s UVB radiation, since UVB damage is the major cause of sunburn and can lead to skin cancers. UVB wavelengths happen to be the specific wavelengths that trigger vitamin D production in the skin. Nonetheless, clinical studies have never found that everyday sunscreen use leads to vitamin D insufficiency. In fact, the prevailing studies show that people who use sunscreen daily can maintain their vitamin D levels

One of the explanations for this may be that no matter how much sunscreen you use or how high the SPF, some of the sun’s UV rays reach your skin. An SPF 15 sunscreen filters out 93 percent of UVB rays, SPF 30 keeps out 97 percent, and SPF 50 filters out 98 percent. This leaves anywhere from 2 to 7 percent of solar UVB reaching your skin, even with high-SPF sunscreens. And that’s if you use them perfectly."

(From Skin Cancer.org)

I use it on my face and neck all year round. Not terribly worried about wrinkles (I expect them at my age - 56) but my dad had a basal cell carcinoma removed from his face and my mum has had four squamous cell carcinomas removed from hers. Neither were sun worshippers. I took my mum to all her dermatology appointments and it was recommended that I wear a decent SPF all year as I have the same colouring as her. One of the procedures involved plastic surgery, so no thanks, I'll stick with my ever so difficult task of using sunscreen. I just use it as a moisturiser anyway. My skin is quite oily, but I haven't had any problems at all.

Oh, and just to say, I'm in NI. Not much sunshine here!