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To not wear sunscreen in winter in northern England?

133 replies

thepox · 02/04/2023 13:48

Just don't see the point, yet every advice says to indeed bother.

AIBU?

OP posts:
kitsuneghost · 02/04/2023 15:41

No. Only use when you need it. It reduces vitamin D production

So1invictus · 02/04/2023 15:43

kitsuneghost · 02/04/2023 15:41

No. Only use when you need it. It reduces vitamin D production

Unless you are a scientist with research that refutes the above linked research from skin cancer specialists (in which case, please post it) no, it doesn't.

thepox · 02/04/2023 15:43

PousseyNotMoira · 02/04/2023 14:39

I think a lot of posters seem to be fundamentally misunderstanding the purpose of sun protection. It’s not just to stop you from burning, so time of year is irrelevant.

Moisturising and wearing sunscreen every day is just basic skincare in lots of the world, including the bit I’m from. I remember being astonished by how rapidly and poorly people’s skin aged, when I moved to the U.K. Then I learned how poorly a lot of you care for your skin and all became clear!

Judgement post. My skin is absolutely fine

OP posts:
iaapap · 02/04/2023 15:44

Nano particles in sunscreen could have long term effects that we don’t know about. No way would I wear sunscreen in the north in winter. And I reckon most people don’t. Men for example - never met one who wears it in winter.

PousseyNotMoira · 02/04/2023 15:45

thepox · 02/04/2023 15:43

Judgement post. My skin is absolutely fine

You: AIBU?
Me: yes, this is why.
You: judgement!

Do what you like, OP. Your skin is your business. 😂

AFlockOfTigers · 02/04/2023 15:45

If it was beneficial for me to wear SPF all year round in the UK then my skin wouldn't be this colour.

Okaaaay · 02/04/2023 15:47

I don’t - I wear factor 50 in spring / summer but have even got a bit lax with that. I find them a bit greasy so don’t love putting it on under makeup. Would love to hear great options - I’ve tried Kiehls and Cerave. I prefer the latter so far but it’s about a third of the price.

So1invictus · 02/04/2023 15:52

Okaaaay · 02/04/2023 15:47

I don’t - I wear factor 50 in spring / summer but have even got a bit lax with that. I find them a bit greasy so don’t love putting it on under makeup. Would love to hear great options - I’ve tried Kiehls and Cerave. I prefer the latter so far but it’s about a third of the price.

The ones specially formulated for facial skin are a whole new ballgame.
Biore watery essence spf50 is a thin lotion and probably the best I've ever used. Sometimes hard to get hold of though. I'm using Garnier spf50 for the face at the moment, and at about a fiver, it's brilliant.

IsadoraQuagmire · 02/04/2023 15:53

sst1234 · 02/04/2023 15:34

This thread shows the lack of awareness about protection from UV. Sunscreen is a must whatever time of the year or whatever the temperature.

It's really surprising how many people on MN only wear sunscreen when "it's hot"
I wear SPF 50 every day.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 02/04/2023 15:59

Trollsinmyeggbox · 02/04/2023 15:30

There are plenty that can be sprayed over make up and there are clear balm type sticks that work over it too, depending on what type of make up you wear.

If that's the case, and lots of people according to this thread are wearing spf year round, how come I have never seen anyone apart from myself reapplying sunscreen while going about their normal day? I wear it on all my exposed skin when the UV is medium or higher and if I am for example out shopping for a while or out for a walk, am often to be seen reapplying (sometimes at the mirror in public or shop toilets, sometimes just outside). I've only ever seen others reapply when by the pool on holiday, or as a spectator at an all day outdoor sports event.

Delatron · 02/04/2023 16:00

kitsuneghost · 02/04/2023 15:41

No. Only use when you need it. It reduces vitamin D production

You’re not going to make vitamin D from the sun between Oct and April in this country. To make vitamin D we need to expose a large area of skin (so not the face) say arms and legs - so better to do that from April (sensibly) and keep the face protected. Supplement vitamin D in winter.

Delatron · 02/04/2023 16:01

RichardMarxisinnocent · 02/04/2023 15:59

If that's the case, and lots of people according to this thread are wearing spf year round, how come I have never seen anyone apart from myself reapplying sunscreen while going about their normal day? I wear it on all my exposed skin when the UV is medium or higher and if I am for example out shopping for a while or out for a walk, am often to be seen reapplying (sometimes at the mirror in public or shop toilets, sometimes just outside). I've only ever seen others reapply when by the pool on holiday, or as a spectator at an all day outdoor sports event.

I reapply it in my house. But I agree it’s not common practice. Doesn’t mean it’s not a good thing to do to protect your skin though.

Greenertime · 02/04/2023 16:06

ThinWomansBrain · 02/04/2023 13:57

I use Simple's face oil with SPF 30 - it was recommended by someone on here - it's around £6 a bottle - Use it every day and lasts about a year, just purchased a second bottle.
don't bother other than my face.

Thanks for the is, I’ve just ordered myself a bottle! Normally I use face sun cream, but this looks better for every day use.

FourTeaFallOut · 02/04/2023 16:07

RichardMarxisinnocent · 02/04/2023 15:59

If that's the case, and lots of people according to this thread are wearing spf year round, how come I have never seen anyone apart from myself reapplying sunscreen while going about their normal day? I wear it on all my exposed skin when the UV is medium or higher and if I am for example out shopping for a while or out for a walk, am often to be seen reapplying (sometimes at the mirror in public or shop toilets, sometimes just outside). I've only ever seen others reapply when by the pool on holiday, or as a spectator at an all day outdoor sports event.

Because most people are not. If they were then the shelves and shelves of sunscreen that we see filling the shops in the summer would be there the whole year round.

What you have here is a thread title that simply appeals to the small number of people who feel compelled/ can be arsed to use sunscreen throughout the year.

darjeelingrose · 02/04/2023 16:10

thepox · 02/04/2023 15:43

Judgement post. My skin is absolutely fine

I don't think you've understood how AIBU works. Or indeed the internet, we don't know who you are, this isn't facebook, you could be Cleopatra. (also we don't care).

Pixiedust1234 · 02/04/2023 16:11

I'm supposed to for my autoimmune condition but I cannot stand anything on my face. I haven't worn make up in forty years because of it. I will put some on in the middle of summer on holiday to prevent burning but that is it (and still hate it).

I have bought a lot of MN non greasy suggestions and they have still felt greasy and dont absorb properly!

GoodChat · 02/04/2023 16:14

PousseyNotMoira · 02/04/2023 14:39

I think a lot of posters seem to be fundamentally misunderstanding the purpose of sun protection. It’s not just to stop you from burning, so time of year is irrelevant.

Moisturising and wearing sunscreen every day is just basic skincare in lots of the world, including the bit I’m from. I remember being astonished by how rapidly and poorly people’s skin aged, when I moved to the U.K. Then I learned how poorly a lot of you care for your skin and all became clear!

What's your skincare routine like?

WhisperingAutistic · 02/04/2023 16:18

Interesting
My son has an organ transplant and his consultants say to use sunscreen every day from April to October as his medication makes him more likely to get skin cancer as it causes photosensitivity.
They said you don't need to bother from October to April.

Delatron · 02/04/2023 16:23

It’s two separate issues really. I wear sunscreen all year round to prevent ageing of skin. I don’t believe wearing spf 50 on my face in winter is preventing skin cancer. It’s helpIng slow down ageing.

I wear suncream in summer to prevent skin cancer but will expose arms and legs for 20-30 mins to get the vitamin D (without suncream).

WhisperingAutistic · 02/04/2023 16:26

According to Defra you don't
uk-air.defra.gov.uk/data/uv-index-graphs

Change the date to winter months and it says you need no protection.

To not wear sunscreen in winter in northern England?
Delatron · 02/04/2023 16:31

I don’t think people are understanding this.
UV levels that are quoted here are UVB - so the burning rays. So no - if getting sunburnt is your main concern then you don’t need to wear suncream in winter.

If you care about ageing of the skin then you should wear it in on your face all year round. As UVA (ageing rays) are present at the same strength all year round.

If you don’t care about ageing then fine don’t wear it.

WhisperingAutistic · 02/04/2023 16:33

Delatron · 02/04/2023 16:31

I don’t think people are understanding this.
UV levels that are quoted here are UVB - so the burning rays. So no - if getting sunburnt is your main concern then you don’t need to wear suncream in winter.

If you care about ageing of the skin then you should wear it in on your face all year round. As UVA (ageing rays) are present at the same strength all year round.

If you don’t care about ageing then fine don’t wear it.

That's what I thought it was too.
I don't care about getting wrinkles at all and couldn't be doing with the faff of wearing sunscreen all year round.

WestwardHo1 · 02/04/2023 16:35

WhisperingAutistic · 02/04/2023 16:26

According to Defra you don't
uk-air.defra.gov.uk/data/uv-index-graphs

Change the date to winter months and it says you need no protection.

I guess it depends if you're concerned about actual burning or "just" aging. For some people sunspots and lines are a potential horror, for others they're just something you get as the years go by 🤷‍♀️

However as the population ages it is more cancer prone, and that includes skin cancer, so you might as well be sensible. Some people are obsessive though.

Delatron · 02/04/2023 16:35

WhisperingAutistic · 02/04/2023 16:33

That's what I thought it was too.
I don't care about getting wrinkles at all and couldn't be doing with the faff of wearing sunscreen all year round.

Yes and that’s completely fair enough!

It’s important people understand the difference. I wholly accept I am doing it from a vanity/ageing perspective in the winter.