To not wear sunscreen in winter in northern England?

[thepox]

Just don't see the point, yet every advice says to indeed bother.

AIBU?

Basic framework as below, specific components/products dependent on time of year and what my needs.

AM
Cleanse
Tone
Moisture
SPF50

PM
Double cleanse
Tone
Serum(s)
Moisturise

Fortnightly: exfoliation (chemical, not manual)

Basically what @Delatron said 😁

Been wearing it since I was 22, 46 now and still get asked for id to buy alcohol.

Don't sunglasses have to meet minimum standards?

People like dermatologists, skin cancer specialists etc.

Do you have a link from any scientist or doctor that tells you they are wrong?

You seem to be equating products that people may (rightly or wrongly) choose to use for vanity/beauty purposes with products recommended by cancer doctors. You should educate yourself.

You are right in that the UK has been notably lax in NOT recommending preventive care of the skin. That'll be why skin cancer is up 40% in the UK since the 1960s. Abhorrent really, when it could so easily have been different. Thankfully that's now changed, though the wilfully ignorant will continue to spread lies I suppose.

I take vitamins and eat well all year round. I'm still not wearing sunblock in the winter.

What sun? I don't think I've seen any hint of sun since last summer.

Jesus, cool your boots. My post is only replying to the previous poster who is wondering why there is a disparity between her everyday experience and the replies here.

You are making quite the habit of being outraged by things in my posts which I'm not saying.

As has been repeatedly said on this thread you don't need actual sun just daylight to cause damage to your skin. I wish I'd worn it years ago, always do now.

I don’t bother, I can’t believe it’s needed in winter in the uk. I’m mid thirties with good skin and no wrinkles. No history of skin cancer in the family either. But can see why people who do might want to be more careful

I also smoke so I guess I it would be a bit odd if I was trying to desperately protect my skin whilst puffing away on my cancer sticks

My husband is 69. In the last year he has had 2 ops to remove a basal cell carcinoma from his nose. The last op, in Oct involved having his nose sliced down, with each slice being checked in the lab for dodgy cells, then another slice and check and so on until the surgeon was sure he had git it all. He was under general anaesthetic for 9 hours. His nose was reconstructed using cartledge from his ears and a patch taken from his forehead. It looked horrific, and he still has dressings on his forehead whilst the hole repairs. Another op will be needed later this year to shape his nose. Lokk up forehead flap nose reconstruction on youtube if you are interested. Of our contemporaries, the vast majority of men, and a few women, have had at least 1 Basal cell carcinoma removed. I would recommend wearing spf 50 on the face everyday, even when overcast.

I have done for the last 5 years, on the advice of my dermatologist.

I take vitamin D all year round anyway - even before I got told to wear sunscreen, I get mega deficient in winter and it messes with my mood. So no issue there.

You wouldn’t expect to have wrinkles in your 30s - sun damage takes a long time to show up as wrinkles. As explained the ageing UVA rays are the same strength all year round at different latitudes. So winter in the UK is the same as summer in the UK (for UVA). You won’t get sunburnt but you will accrue damage from UVA rays. By all means don’t wear suncream but don’t base this on false information.

And good lord skin cancer is not genetic.

But yes since smoking ages the skin massively it would seem silly to wear suncream for anti-aging.

I have very fair skin, even though my hair is or was dark, it is grey now. In my 60s I started getting little patches of sun damage, on the bridge of my nose, and I have at least 1 dark age spot on my cheek, so I now wear factor 50 every day. I know 2 or 3 older women who have had to have cancerous cells n their face treated, so I am now very careful of my skin. I don't have a lot of wrinkles.

I do all year round. Lots of cancers can't be prevented but I feel I can reduce skin cancer risk, 1 in 4 get it. I have lots of moles so need to be careful.

I don't find putting it on a chore and bonus is I'll look forever young 😂

@PousseyNotMoira thanks! I expected it to be more intense! Although I just looked at my moisturiser and realised it has no SPF protection. I just assumed it would have.

This is excellent. Glides on, not at all shiny or sticky and acts like a primer

Heliocare 360 Oil-Free Gel SPF 50... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UYZ95F2?ref=ppxpoppmobappshare

I wear sunblock daily for the same reason.
I can’t tolerate chemical screens though so it is always tricky finding good ones .

We have so much cloud cover in Scotland it's not needed and Vitamin D supplements are. I don't wear sunscreen ever. Haven't they been linked to cancer recently?

But UV rays are also linked to cancer... a lot more strongly than SPF
If I didn't wear SPF from may - august I wouldn't be able to leave the house! I burn sorting the recycling out

Sun exposure is strongly positively linked to skin cancer, but it also helps prevent prostate cancer, bowel cancer, MS, high blood pressure and heart attacks, and possibly breast cancer, amongst other health conditions. You pays your money and you takes your choice. But never ever let yourself burn - that has no upside at all.

Melanoma (very aggressive skin cancer) risk is partly genetic. It is a raised risk for those with the ginger gene, separate from the risk of gingers being more likely to burn.

No, I don't wear SPF year round, though I start using it earlier than some due to being a ginger with a red-bearded family member killed by Stage 4 melanoma in his early 30s.

Idgaf about what my skin looks like, and imo it shows, though funnily enough people read me as younger probably due to my other facial features.