School ski trip cancelled due to chaos in Dover - fuck the tories

[TheColourofspring]

My 15 year old son has just spent 17 hours in a coach in dover waiting to go on a much anticipated ski trip. It’s cost us over £1500 over a year and we hoped, given everything our kids lost over covid, it would be a positive experience.

The school just notified us to say that now- due to health and safety, drivers hours etc- the trip needs to be cancelled and the kids are on their way back from dover.

Absolutely FUCK the lying Tory cunts - they ruin everything. They try and blame the French yet all of this lies at their door. Fuck them all for ruining 100 kids trip (and probably thousands more) and ruining everything they touch with their stinking corrupt lies and their lies about brexit.

My son was in tears.

Perhaps the new driver wouldn’t have been allowed to travel on the same ticket.

How have Labour been responsible for Brexit?

Except it isn't true. There were much more efficient arrangements for checking before Brexit, including specific arrangements for coach parties.

It's Brexit, not the Tories. Blame the people who voted for Brexit.

I think it’s a cop out - the coach company should be sending new drivers.

I don’t understand the chaos at Dover. They’re blaming the higher number of coaches than expected. But that’s rubbish, because coaches will all have been booked well in advance, so they’d have known exactly how many coaches there were going to be on each crossing. Why not put extra staff on, in the same way the ferry companies are running extra crossings?

I wonder why the ferry company doesn't put on more staff

If it really is down to staff numbers it'll be for the same reason as usual: £££££

Post covid a lot of employers are trying to claw back what they lost and cutting corners is an obvious way to do it. Doesn't make it right of course, but it could be an explanation

This is really interesting from the grocer publication, including a quote from a Mr Cock:

A bigger problem could be Dover’s own lack of investment, some suggest. While Eurotunnel spent on number plate recognition cameras to integrate with GVMS and SI Brexit (the French customs system) to allow the flow of traffic to be automated through the gate, Dover instead relies on staff to carry out manual paper-based checks. This inevitably slows down the processing, says one source, who believes “there’s a bit of complacency at Dover in dealing with their freight customers”.

Steve Cock, director at The Custom House, echoes this concern, suggesting delays at Dover will continue until number-plate recognition is employed.

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/brexit/is-brexit-to-blame-for-the-20-mile-lorry-queues-into-dover/664951.article

I’m really sorry about your son op. That’s just gutting for him and his classmates.

52% of people in the uk literally voted for this and didn’t comprehend that when they voted to have more control over their borders, it would involve more hassles passing through their own border to go abroad and more queuing at busy travel periods.

The free movement of goods and people being at the very heart of what the EU is all about. To speed up all of those processes relating to travel and goods.

And now Brexiteers are complaining? Why? We re-imposed border checks in the UK for millions of tourists and business people coming from EU countries to Britain, and yet Brits want to be waved through in to their countries seamlessly without any checks at all?

Remainers warned everyone repeatedly there would be chaos at Dover. No one listened. We were called elitist fear mongers. Well there are plenty of dc from comprehensive schools in those queues who have just lost a rare chance to go abroad.

And let’s not start on the profound damage that Brexit has done to British trade, with all the increase in paperwork, customs documents and vat charges. It’s made importing and exporting three times more complicated and expensive. Who has benefited from that exactly? Of course the tabloids are largely silent on the matter because of the stranglehold the right wing has on our press. It still makes me furious.

Brexit, Brexit, Brexit. We have taken back our borders.

I was thinking about all the poor kids in their trips. They will be heartbroken.

I hope the schools can try and arrange something else to compensate

And? When delays happen solely because of the incompetence of the government, it is utterly irrelevant that they sometimes happen for other reasons.

Oh your poor son, OP. He must be devastated.

Those morons that voted for Brexit should hang their heads…

Thank god I have got an Irish grannie.

I think the country is in for bigger disappointments if it thinks a change of government will make everything right

I definitely had my passportstamped entering Finland a few weeks ago.

Of course it won’t. This bunch of lying, morally bankrupt douchebags have ruined this country for generations. But at least another Government can start the very long painful process of repair.

I see the governments astro turf department is working this weekend

No not everything, but THIS, you can, 100%

OP I am so sorry for you and your son. As if our children hadn't suffered enough...

When did anyone say that a change of government could actually undo this monumental damage?

There were much more efficient arrangements for checking before Brexit, including specific arrangements for coach parties

I know, @Rosula, and that's why I asked if it was true about the French now insisting that people leave their coaches for the checks

I'm assuming nothing, but if correct that would be an odd thing to do and create questions around the motivation

YANBU OP, how shit for your son and all the others whose travel plans have been fucked.

Nice to see the "Compassionate Conservatives" on this thread with their ignorance, sneering, gaslighting and inability to take responsibility.

Of course it’s the government.

Easter happens every year.

Meanwhile the government spent most of 2021 faffing about with incompetent leaders instead of trying to sort out things that are very squarely their responsibility e.g. the technicalities of entering and exiting the country.

Before Brexit, it was very very straightforward," he said holding up a passport, "the process was really swift because all they had to do was have a look at your passport and say, 'is this a valid document?'"

"What, under the Brexit agreement, we asked for [and] we signed up for was to have a much much tougher regime."
"They've got to inspect your passport for the various 50 or 60 people on that coach. They then have to stamp the passport. This takes time."

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-castle/post-brexit-reality-dover-delays-entirely-predictable/

What an entitled titled thread

I can’t afford a ski trip and my dc weren’t offered the “normal” y10 ski trip through school anyway because of covid but you have to be especially hard of thinking to think that if you can afford a ski trip then you are too “entitled” to go on one. People are entitled to the goods and services that they have paid for. That applies to a cup of water and a slice of dry bread as well as a diamond ring. It doesn’t matter if you were born wealthy or your kid has been babysitting and mowing lawns to save up. You’ve paid - you are entitled. We, as a country, are “entitled” to the services our tax is supposed to pay for. Managing the border is part of the governments job, we pay them to do it, why to you think they should be “entitled” to fuck it up so spectacularly?

Brexit is the cause of this so of course its the Government's fault!