School ski trip cancelled due to chaos in Dover - fuck the tories

[TheColourofspring]

My 15 year old son has just spent 17 hours in a coach in dover waiting to go on a much anticipated ski trip. It’s cost us over £1500 over a year and we hoped, given everything our kids lost over covid, it would be a positive experience.

The school just notified us to say that now- due to health and safety, drivers hours etc- the trip needs to be cancelled and the kids are on their way back from dover.

Absolutely FUCK the lying Tory cunts - they ruin everything. They try and blame the French yet all of this lies at their door. Fuck them all for ruining 100 kids trip (and probably thousands more) and ruining everything they touch with their stinking corrupt lies and their lies about brexit.

My son was in tears.

What fact is incorrect?

Oh that’s awful. A friends son went last night but they are still making their way - now in France. I really feel for the poor kids, that’s so unfair

Nope, no rioting scheduled this week and PAF (Border) working normally on a national level AFAIK.

Maybe somebody didn't get the traffic (specifically passenger) numbers right but where that happened who knows?

"this is all on the French" - err, did the French vote for a hard Brexit? Did the French insist they were "taking back control" of their borders? Did the French turn down the offer to double the capacity of French border controls in Dover? Sweeping generalisations sound great in your head but don't stand up to scrutiny. Facts and logic help, however easy and satisfying it is to blame someone else (preferably foreigners, as is the current Tory way)

So the fact that the French are making a mess of things too isn't considered? If we're blaming Governments, there are two in the frame here!

Well I posted about diver's lack of investment a couple of pages back but it got lost amongst the argument. Here it is again
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/brexit/is-brexit-to-blame-for-the-20-mile-lorry-queues-into-dover/664951.article

There have always been strikes or action by France that have affected holiday makers. There was a French one-day air traffic control strike last week when flights were stopped due to changes to the French retirement age.

Recall lots of times the French have taken action, stopped travel, restricted animals and even set lorries with animals on fire.

I don’t mean to derail, but ‘meh’ has become very popular on Mumsnet recently hasn’t it? Do people think it makes them sound cool or original?

Fair point.

It's absolutely reckless of anyone to plan anything in Britain while the Tories are in charge.

But at the same time the article in the daily mail does suggest it's the French side that's caused the delay

Of course it is and absolutely nothing to do with all the extra checks needed at border control because "we've taken back control". But think of the joy all those stranded feel at being able to look at their nice blue passports eh.

Op , how about blaming the EU for not listening to DC when he wanted to talk to them about UK concerns? Or the SNP for abstaining when they could have got a softer Brexit through the commons?

It’s a mess of our own making. Why should they spend more of their taxpayers’ money to help us sort it out?

Course it does. The DM is xenophobic and on the side of the likes of Braverman

Well our Government turned down the opportunity for doubling existing passport facilities

A 2020 report by the Financial Times has also been doing the rounds this weekend. In it, it states the UK government turned down a £33-million (39-million-euro, $40-million) bid for upgrades at the port, including new passport control booths.

www.thelocal.fr/20220722/are-the-french-really-to-blame-for-dover-travel-chaos

Yep. This.

Well it is because of the Tories that Brexit happened, isn't it?

Blame the people who voted for Brexit. There now seems to be this pervasive idea that people simply had no idea what they were voting for. They were lied to, they couldn't have known .

Except it's rubbish. There were many many voices beforehand warning of the dire consequences including issues caused by restricted freedom of movement . They were dismissed as project fear. No doubt you'll find old threads on here if you look.

The people that voted for this shitshow are the people to blame for the mess we are in. They each bear their own degree of personal responsibility. They each used their own tiny bit of power to give us what we have now.

Blame the Conservatives if you will, but they only implemented the will of the people.

That's democracy.

Oh don't! I have just received my new passport. I hate it. I want the maroon one back

Gosh, really? An article in the Daily Mail suggests it’s the fault of the French? It must be true, they couldn’t possibly have any bias or agenda!

Brexit is such an enduring shit show. The Tories should never be forgiven for this dispicable scam.

The people that voted for this shitshow are the people to blame for the mess we are in

Yep. And shock horror, I know of about 4 people who are now saying they voted Remain. Like hell you did! You told me at the time you voted to leave so don't pull that one!

This is hilarious, this shit show is a direct result of this government and Brexit

Exactly, this is all on the French who are probably too busy rioting in Paris to come to work

Why are they under any obligation to make it easier for us though? That’s the whole point. We voted to make it harder for French citizens, and all other EU citizens travelling through France, to come to UK. Why should they now be obliged to make it easier for us when we literally opted to leave the arrangement that facilitated all of this?

Maybe they should make it easier to boost French tourism? Well maybe, but France has plenty of visitors from the rest of the EU to fill our places.

Does no one understand that by voting to leave the EU, we kicked the French and Germans in the metaphorical goolies, and by now demanding they make our passage through their countries more efficient, we are being somewhat hypocritical?