Thomas Cashman's Family

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The daily fail have really gone after Thomas Cashman's partner in the paper today, painting her as a gangsters moll.

Do you think she really knew what he was up to? What's the feeling in Liverpool towards her?

AIBU to feel sorry for his kids and wonder what kind of life they will have now? his son and daughter are also victims in this horrible tragedy now. It's so sad.

@Florenz that doesn't mean we should adopt any old crackpot idea. Carceral monkey tennis.

I don't understand why it wouldn't work.

@Florenz

1. It's illegal.
2. Lack of money.
3. Lack of staffing.
4. Lack of physical space/infrastructure.
5. Human nature/psychology.
6. Scale. If you give a weed dealer 50 years, what do you give a burglar? A rapist? A murderer?
7. Torture does not produce useful outcomes.

In addition to the above it wouldn’t work because these smaller players would simply be replaced. The deterrents you’ve suggested won’t work because people don’t ever believe they’ll get caught when they commit offences so they don’t care what the punishment could be.

Big dealer in the next town son stabbed another boy he died - the circus around this family is unreal the dealer got the best barrister for his son the under dealers threatening the under under dealers to say nothing. In this case we all know he’s a grass to the police he comes from a rough estate has been charged with so many offences when younger now he lives in a £2 mill gated house driving a Ferrari the whole community know he’s a grass to the police he’s protected by them

Well it seems like the only solution is that it has to become completely socially unacceptable to use recreational drugs or to allow friends/family to use them in our homes.
All of them... including pot.
Who's in?
If we don't buy the shit the drug dealers will soon go out of business.

@JackiePlace "we"? "Our"? Are you implying that everyone takes drugs/allows drug use in our homes? Not all of us are part of the problem.

I don't allow drugs in my home, it IS socially unacceptable to me. If you allow drug taking in your home, you do you, but we don't all do it by any stretch

Well it seems like the only solution is that it has to become completely socially unacceptable to use recreational drugs or to allow friends/family to use them in our homes. All of them... including pot. Who's in?

I'm in of course. But presumably you and I aren't in a druggie/criminal subculture. They make their own subcultures where someone is probably considered weird if they don't take drugs. Some of these people will never be our friends for us to have an influence on them.

We're not talking about junkies injecting heroin under the flyover, we're talking about supposedly "respectable" people who are using drugs recreationally. If their employment was threatened they'd stop.

No cocaine users are 'respectable'. They are exactly the same as heroin users - despicable trash, happy to support human trafficking and abuse of the most vulnerable members of society.

No cocaine users are 'respectable'.

to many they appear like normal “respectable” people, it’s how they appear nit what they really are.

take barristers, solicitors, hairdressers, car sales men, chefs all appearing to be normal people but also doing a line of coke at the weekend

There's a reason that I phrased it the way I did: 'supposedly "respectable"'. I agree that they are despicable people, but to those who don't know what is going on they have a façade of being model citizens in high-flying jobs. They need outing. That's why more employers (particularly white collar ones) need to start screening their workforce, just like tourist attractions I've worked at do.

In my circles likewise drugs aren't socially acceptable. Clearly though there are some circles where doing "a few lines" at the weekend is considered normal. Ditto "it's only weed". That needs to change.

There’s a huge amount of cocaine use in our - seemingly middle class, relatively “posh” village in south Norfolk. I worked in the main hotel for a while, it’s the kind of hotel where old people come for a posh carvery type thing, and I was really shocked that almost every single one of the kitchen staff - from head chef down- was taking cocaine. So was the manager - a 40 something Mum of 2 who was a supposed pillar of the community and someone who people posted about on the local pages saying how much she had contributed to the community. I just thought I wonder what they’d all think if they saw them all snorting coke around the kitchen before they started their shift. It was really disgusting. And one of the reasons I walked out after 6 months.

After graduating, my ds will work at a London based office which carries out regular random drug tests. Good for them.

it’s extremely common in the restaurant business. Tbh I’d be more shocked to find out they weren’t using it.

And Norfolk is swimming in cocaine (quite literally if you happened to be taking a dip at Hopton or Caister in 2017), a lot of it arrives in the country via the ports.

I guess that’s a fair comment. I’ve worked in restaurants and bars in London all my life and it’s always been like that but when I moved to South Norfolk I naively thought it might be different!

Hmmm. I’ve known a few companies boast that, and it’s hard to consider it anything other than virtue signalling when the ones running the programme are off their tits on it.

Which is why an office is having drugs tests randomly

My point is the ones running the tests and taking the samples are the ones off their tits on it. I’ve also known offices get a heads up when the ‘random’ test is incoming.

@whumpthereitis. I got your point, you missed my point