To think that adults are much less resilient than they used to be

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First of all I'll admit that I'm on the older side of 60 so the weight of my belt onion could be effecting my judgement on this.

I see a lot on social media including here where people say they are upset at words they read on a screen, that they've been triggered, or that it should have a warning attached.

Are we making the world harder to live in by trying to make it too comfortable do you think?

Ironically the cowardly op seems to have fucked off.

Lost people of all ages are unable to take criticism well. I can forgive younger people as they have time to learn.

In terms of having to write your own appraisal that's been the case for years surely? Before DD I worked in HR on a bank and this was always the case but actually if you were doing your job it was actually an easy process as you can evidence your a achievements as you go (and also update your CV or LinkedIn at the same time). It also helps you structure the conversation and help your case with d your trying to negotiate a pay rise.

I'd expect any young person now who seems to think part of their paid employment is to spend time building their "brand" would be able to do it easily

The real risk of AI and tech is not it takes over the world but drives us crazy. We persuade ourselves that we can't function.

To paraphrase: “Hard times create strong people, strong people create good times, good times create weak people, and weak people create hard times.”

It all comes back around eventually.

Totally agree. It's important to bring kids up in my view to express and opinion but it's also important to teach them other peoples opinions are valid too even if they are different to there own. This seems to be lacking generally now.

My mum has recently been officially diagnosed as depressed after suffering for what feels like my entire life. She's on medication now and we're seeing little glimmers of old mum coming through.

So much of what you've written rings true for her.

@lieselotte agree

I'm going to lock you up for the best part of 2 years only allowing you to socialise with your peers using technology with the only news about Covid.

I was working on two project with people in their early 20s during the Covid lockdowns. On the first project people were stuck in their rented accommodation, and on the second project the young adults were stuck in their bedrooms in their parents houses. Those on the second project had never been in an office as they were recruited during Covid.

Look at the front pages of the Mail and Express for the last few years and tell me it’s just young people who are over sensitive. Clearly those papers have an audience who like being that angry all the time.

The OP may have other things to do and will come back to a massive thread.

Happy to be wrong but this exactly the kind of goady thread where someone’s popped along to chuck a grenade then never returns.

The answer is simple. Switch off your phone and go and interact with real people in your real world.

I'm only here for the explanation of Belt Onion

@AnybodyAnywhere beautifully put. I'm sorry to hear those things happened to you but glad you've not let them define you.

I guess your generation grew up in different times… you didn’t have social media, internet, much more likely to live in a big family or have an extended network of family living down the road, communities were tighter and so on. That makes a person more resilient imo. It’s harder for young people now, that’s bound to affect mental health and in turn resilience.

There is an Eagles song that you would love called Get Over It

I turn on the tube what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' don't blame me
They point their crooked little fingers everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this victim of that
Your momma's too thin and your daddy's too fat. Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' cryin' pitchin' a fit
Get over it get over it. You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if they gave you some cash
The more I think about it old Billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers kill 'em tonight
Don't want to work you want to live like a king
But the big bad world doesn't owe you a thing.
Get over it
Get over it
If you don't want to play then you might as well split
Get over it get over it. It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak
You're makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick but I call it weak...
Yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah
Yeah you drag it around like a ball and chain
Wallow in the guilt wallow in the pain
Wave it like a flag wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter bringin' everybody down
Complain about the present blame it on the past
I'd like to find your inner child kick its little ass

Well said, and I agree.

David Bowie was incredibly prescient in his interview in 1999 about the internet and the great damage it could do as well as the good.
I can't imagine life without the net now. It's made life so much easier, but social media is a malignant presence in a lot of cases. It's so easy to spread mis-information and propaganda.

It's complicated.

There's a lot of generalising and stereotyping on here about the generations.

Ultimately, none of us truly know what it's like being anyone else, or being another generation.

I disagree that all opinions are valid. They aren't. Some of them are really fucking stupid or just...shit. People can have any opinion they want, but they don't have the automatic right to have those opinions respected.

For example, I don't believe that the opinions of antisemites about Jewish people are valid, nor the view on women of the taxi driver yesterday who told me I should be at home with children instead of going to work. My opinion is that those opinions are bollocks. You can disagree with me and agree with them, but you cannot insist that I respect them.

We should teach children how to properly evaluate opinions, how to think openly and research things. To be curious and embrace the simple complexity of not knowing everything. To be flexible and willing to change your mind but also to know when to make a firm decision and adhere to your own principles once you've worked them out. To sort the wheat from the chaff.

Use Prime Minister's questions in school as an example of how not to debate ideas. Shouting loudest and longest in order to "win" is shit and childish. It doesn't get anything done. But it makes people feel better.

Fucing hell, life is complex, innit. I need a lie down...

"These bloody young people aren't resilient at all!!!" Whilst at the same time complaining to everyone who will listen about the crying toddler in the cafe

I’m inclined to agree with OP, however, I think the older generation have massive double standards around this.

A lot of boomers and older Gen X seem to think they’re entitled to say what they like, when they like (I mostly agree with this, for everyone) and are quick to make accusations of snowflakery when someone pushes back on them.

But the moment anyone says anything they find offensive the boot is suddenly on the other foot.

A meta example of this are two threads that were posted on AIBU about how different generations are problematic in the work place.

The first thread was about how difficult Gen Z and Millennials are to work with (posters claimed younger workers expect special treatment, everyone to go along with their whims, and lack resilience.) Anyone that went on to disagree was told to suck it up etc.

The second was on the problems caused by older workers (who the OP and some others claimed expect special treatment, to always call the shots and for everyone else to take their shit).

The former was up for days, and is probably still up now, while the latter was taken down within two hours after MN’s most resilient posters went on to complain about “ageism”.

Another example is GC feminists, full of piss and vinegar about free speech..right until someone disagrees with them.

Resilience is another one; as someone who spent a number of years in customer service (in a shop and then call centres for various financial organisations) the most epic tantrums came from boomers when I had to tell them that I couldn’t magic up an out of stock product, or change their terms and conditions just cos they said so.

No, I think people are just more open about mental health issues, which is a good thing. There is a lot of ageism (directed at young people) on this thread.

Simpsons?