If you didn’t go to a private school, what do you think about those who did?

[hanginds]

Do you feel they had an unfair advantage? Do you care? Do you think they don’t know about the real world?

I really struggle to connect with colleagues who were privately educated as they seem almost entitled to the job. They seem fearless about finding alternative work if needs be, yet I just don’t have that confidence. I assume it’s their background as it’s the only difference between us in the academic/work context.

No, but once they no longer have to demonstrate charitable status then that could mean no more working with local schools to share facilities, or many bursaries for that matter. I really don't think it's the clever idea that Labour think it is - it's their Brexit - popular with people who feel chippy about certain sectors of the population and almost certainly with lots of unintended negative side effects.

Lots of private schools don’t have charitable status.

(Equally, I would also be happy for my taxes to be raised to help better fund things like the NHS and social care, again because I’m not a cunt).

they aren’t charities, they’re businesses that cater ( mostly) to some of the most wealthy people in the U.K

Like you then @StarmanBobby

I have more faith in what might happen when labour come in. I worked in education when the last labour government implemented their ‘education, education, education’ policy. The impact was PHENOMENAL. It was also a master class in industrial relations ie the TUs were heavily involved in crafting the strategy.

I’m not really gunning for anyone unless you would deliberately vote Tory just to avoid this policy coming in so your kids can stay in private education

As I’ve said I support the broadly support the policy, I’d say that’s unlikely, isn’t it?

Another76543 · Today 14:46StarmanBobby · Today 12:49
The sooner the charitable tax status is taken away from private schools the better. It’s ridiculous that these businesses have charity status.

Lots of private schools don’t have charitable status

StarmanBobby I’m surprised you don’t know that lots of private schools don’t have charitable status - considering you work in education, or claim to.

@TheHoover I agree - particularly in London. I think however the improvements didn't reach out into the provinces. Our corner of Cornwall certainly didn't see the improvements friends in London saw. But yes, it's good to know improvement is possible with the will and right investment

That’s a shame to hear. However I think PPA time and teaching assistants were universal

Building new schools was very London centric though

You haven't read my post. But hey, why let that stand in the way of expression your opinions about me! 😂

@CurlewKate er yes I have hence the reply

Then I must have expressed myself badly. While I would like people I love to share my philosophy of life, I know they don't. So obviously, I have some friends and family who believe in capital punishment, hunting with dogs....and private education. When it comes to casual acquaintances, I probably wouldn't pursue a deeper relationship once I discovered they held those views. Is that any clearer?

‘Kefir · Today 14:46they aren’t charities, they’re businesses that cater ( mostly) to some of the most wealthy people in the U.K

Like you then @StarmanBobby’

what??? That makes no sense. I don’t work for a charity, I for a global company,
not a charity. We provide services to, among other clients, schools. Mainly state schools as they far outnumber private schools in number and spending for resources.

‘No, but once they no longer have to demonstrate charitable status then that could mean no more working with local schools to share facilities, or many bursaries for that matter.’

oh piss off do they! Sorry, but they just don’t. Although you can PAY to hire some of the facilities at private schools - halls, 4G, even their pools - which is a good source of income for the school it’s not free.
But then many of the state schools also hire out their facilities on weekends, evenings to generate income for the school or upkeep the pitches.

@CurlewKate that is a greatly softened version of what your original comment said.

I don't think it is. It just has more words.

I meant that you are one of the wealthiest people in the UK. Top 1%, remember?

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My dds school does exactly this. They allow the local state to use their pool and pitches. You are sounding more clueless with every post.

They absolutely do. This is a part of them having charitable status; they have to provide support to the community. As a close family member is an accountant at an independent school, I am sure of this.

Our local selective private schools provide "support" to the local community by offering free "masterclasses" to children at the local state primary schools who have been identified as "gifted and talented" or whatever the current terminology is these days - higher learning potential?

They shamelessly use these sessions as marketing opportunities to do the hard sell to parents

Well as we know, not all independent schools are created equally.

Oops, posted too soon, but you got the gist.

Schools can quite cleverly package up their marketing activity so that it doubles up to meet the requirement to give something back to the local community. So I am a little sceptical about this tbh.

No, of course, and to be fair, I have known some private schools that genuinely make a contribution. Let's just not kid ourselves into thinking that they have to do this, as they can very easily find ways around it if they choose to do so.

Some private schools do indeed fulfil their obligations for charitable status admirably. Many don't, but spin it in such a way that they appear to do so.