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The fight back against OFSTED has begun - support needed

342 replies

wantmorenow · 20/03/2023 12:51

Just saw this and it seems genuine and if so then bloody marvellous. Let's hope this is the rallying call to changes with immediate effect. This has been posted today. A Headteacher has refused access to Ofsted tomorrow, I assume in the wake of the coverage of Ruth Perry's death.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4765105-ofsted-needs-to-be-abolished-trigger-warning?page=1

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4765712-ofsted-needs-to-be-abolished-further-details

twitter.com/FloraSCooper/status/1637760884243066881

I've just had the call.
I've refused entry.
This is an interesting phone call.
Doing this for everyone for our school staff everywhere!

School asking for support in person tomorrow 8am if local.

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MintTeaAndChocolate · 20/03/2023 21:34

Viviennemary · 20/03/2023 13:01

No I admire the Head Teacher for doing this. Somebody has to make a stand af
against this odious orgamisation. Maybe parents should all refuse to send their children on that day.

Yeah let's make our kids miss more fucking school! 🙈🙈🙈

Briallen · 20/03/2023 21:37

ofsted is awful and needs to be completely overhauled I agree. However I’m not sure she can refuse entry? She works at the school, she doesn’t own it. Also I’m a bit alarmed she invited everyone to come to the school initially. I’m a teacher so I fully support the idea of taking a stand against ofsted (although I am in wales). However I feel she has gone about this in such a bad way with terrible judgement. Be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.

Inject · 20/03/2023 21:39

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MintTeaAndChocolate · 20/03/2023 21:40

The OFSTED system is punitive, not supportive. It's not about helping schools improve, it's about damning them. And there's a huge political background around wanting them to fail, so that the government can turn them all into academies and get rid of local government control over them.

@saraclara why is it bad to become an academy?

Maximo2 · 20/03/2023 21:43

You seem to have forgotten your original point and now sound like a lunatic:

India and China are way ahead in their mathematics teaching and results.

Inject · 20/03/2023 21:51

Maximo2 · 20/03/2023 21:43

You seem to have forgotten your original point and now sound like a lunatic:

India and China are way ahead in their mathematics teaching and results.

Not really. I gave examples. Who cares about PISA when these countries produce doctors, bankers!

Inject · 20/03/2023 21:52

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Maximo2 · 20/03/2023 21:52

Right 🤨🤨

BounceyB · 20/03/2023 21:52

theworldhas · 20/03/2023 21:05

@Endlesssummer2022
Ofsted may be a mess but there needs to be some level of assessment as not all schools are run properly and there is such thing as poor teachers

Surely the governors have the power to sack a poor head? (“Schools not run properly”). And the head/leadership team have the power to sack poor teachers? (“there is such a thing as poor teachers”). I’m not sure how a government department which has poor knowledge of a schools history and the specific challenges facing a school can help that school more than the skilled adults who spend their lives working there

The question is why do you think the governors would do a better job? The governors may be biased and have their own agenda.

I hate Ofsted but a regulatory body is essential. I'd hate the thought of my children being in a school that was never inspected and was failing my child. Even worse, imagine if it was your child who was failed by inadequate safeguarding.

ohfook · 20/03/2023 22:24

MintTeaAndChocolate · 20/03/2023 21:40

The OFSTED system is punitive, not supportive. It's not about helping schools improve, it's about damning them. And there's a huge political background around wanting them to fail, so that the government can turn them all into academies and get rid of local government control over them.

@saraclara why is it bad to become an academy?

Because academies have the power to vary the pay and conditions they offer staff. Other schools do not.

GettingThereCharleyBear · 20/03/2023 22:41

She’s backed down and OFSTED will be in tomorrow 🤷‍♀️

Gilmorehill · 20/03/2023 23:11

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That’s a very racist comment.

Inject · 21/03/2023 00:45

Gilmorehill · 20/03/2023 23:11

That’s a very racist comment.

How is it racist to state that Chinese and Indian parents educate their own children and take the school with a pinch of salt? How is it racist to point out that these 2 groups top the education tables? Do you even know what racist means? Schools discriminate against ethnic minorities so absolutely we do not allow our children to be solely schooled by their physical schools. When we put our children into private schools it's not so much for the actual schooling although that is better than most state schools it's to have our children around less disruptive children. The point still stands children of Chinese and Indian parents do well and we had the language barrier. Not racist at all!

Lovelyveg82 · 21/03/2023 06:05

@Maximo2

in the interests of transparency you should probably have explained that your school just got a shite of ofsted raging and now has an academy order

fairywhale · 21/03/2023 06:40

Evil. And bonkers. They are done to protect children, not to protect unfit for job individuals. Ofsted reports are far from perfect and are usually too lenient and lax and miss quite a few red things but do make schools more accountable. Anything could have tipped that person over the edge. People take their own life for various reasons all the time, including for failing in their jobs, relationships and so on. There needs to be better support for mental health, which is nothing to do with ofsted, but children need to be protected and schools made more, not less accountable.

Maximo2 · 21/03/2023 06:50

Lovelyveg82 · 21/03/2023 06:05

@Maximo2

in the interests of transparency you should probably have explained that your school just got a shite of ofsted raging and now has an academy order

Meh, I’ve not hidden it, I’ve talked about it quite a bit on MN.

Lovelyveg82 · 21/03/2023 07:04

Maximo2 · 21/03/2023 06:50

Meh, I’ve not hidden it, I’ve talked about it quite a bit on MN.

But not once mentioned that you are very raw from a recent appalling ofsted inspection on this thread.

LlynTegid · 21/03/2023 07:10

I agree with assessment and inspection, just think it needs to change. One or two words cannot describe a school, as an Ofsted rating does.

crisscross101 · 21/03/2023 07:13

Well if this was round 1, Ofsted won. Confused

fairywhale · 21/03/2023 07:14

Of course they took an issue with "flossing" - it is indeed sexualised. Fortnite isn't suitable for under 13s, it's rated Teen. And the other inappropropriate play they picked up on, they were correct in doing so - if it looked like peer on peer abuse, it probably was. What happens in the school when the ofsted inspectors aren't there is probably much worse.
How perverse to be defending this behaviour in young kids. Those campaigns are started ptobably by those who are happy to make violent sexualised games and the weird dolls in suspenders and g-strings available to kids.
The school has 12% more boys than girls on roll, wonder why that is.

Zonder · 21/03/2023 07:18

Ofsted reports are far from perfect and are usually too lenient and lax and miss quite a few red things but do make schools more accountable.

Not sure they make schools accountable for the important stuff. And is it accountability or support and encouragement that works best?

Zonder · 21/03/2023 07:23

Anything could have tipped that person over the edge. People take their own life for various reasons all the time, including for failing in their jobs, relationships and so on.

Nick Robinson talking about this right now on radio 4. Her family said she was under terrible pressure and was badly criticized in the inspection. So they definitely think it was because of Ofsted.

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 07:23

I need to catch up on the whole thread.

I was devastated by the death of this poor woman. I can actually imagine exactly what she went through as a teacher of 21 years, who's had burn out several times and mh issues due to the pressure and demands of education.

I however I have to say that, given what I know of the process and how safeguarding is the heart of an inspection, I thought this was a foolish move.

The education system is an absolute mess and Ofsted are too. But I don't believe this was the correct cause of action.

I used the Ofsted teacher survey to completely destroy the Tory government who I saw as having put schools, heads and Slts in ridiculous positions through their privatisation of educational resources, which mean that slts are forced to put unreasonable pressure on teachers and creating horrific work loads.

Schools shouldn't be left for 12 years without inspection. That's a major safeguarding fail on Ofsted. They are absolutely culpable in this case as are the government too.

GettingThereCharleyBear · 21/03/2023 07:27

@fairywhale what was evil?

Her family and friends have said it was very much the OFSTED - I have friends who are HTs who are on the edge of burnout due to the constant pressure of the inspection so can totally see how this would tip someone over. Please don’t minimise it.

Barbecuebeans · 21/03/2023 07:33

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:20

If there is a rising atmosphere of anarchy in UK schools - always taking into account the sensationalism of media reporting - it's not to be wondered at.

Draconian, sexist, anachronistic uniform policy which no one on the continent or in the US appears to need. Humiliating female students by the measuring of skirt lengths. Policing ridiculously petty details like the colour of stitching on shoes. I'm at a loss to see how this either enforces discipline (it doesn't, given the laissez faire attitude of schools to far more serious issues), or improves the quality of education.

Serious safeguarding issues surrounding girls' toileting areas, already having resulted in serious injury to a girl only last week. The extent of this problem is leading to protests by kids because the adults responsible for them will not protect them.

Bullying - of both staff and students - is rife. Victims are being excluded as they present too much of a problem, whilst the perpetrators know they can act with impunity.

The system firing off a snotty letter because your Year 4 sick kid's been absent one day in the autumn term. This for a child with an impeccable attendance record leading up to that date - no requested holidays and only one other sickness absence in that time - and who has never once, since the first day of Reception, been late.

A profession that can't keep its staff and are currently striking because conditions are intolerable.

A life ruled by metrics rather than teaching real subjects to real people.

Terrible methods of literacy and numeracy teaching. Phonics is dreadful, a whole teaching system based on the tiny Clackmannanshire study with a small population sample to determine the demographics being failed by then-current literacy teaching. A kneejerk report based on those inconclusive findings and voila! The same demographic is being failed by this system of teaching to the one being used before.

Numeracy levels woeful. The far east are doing something right whilst we are going very wrong.

Now an Ofsted lockout.

This is the result of Tory policy and a succession of inept, clueless education ministers, the worst of which we hadn't seen until Michael Gove. Teaching is a profession in crisis.

All of those things. I would add to this extremely poor discipline in some schools, where the school bends over backwards to keep the disruptive children in education, while throwing all the other children's education under the bus.

The poor access to support for children who are struggling, either with their mental health or academically.